The longer you use linux excluslively, you don’t think about windows or mac. You think about fedora or suse, kde or gnome, yay or apt, distrobox or toolbox.
IKR the longer I use Linux the more I think about TempleOS
Lmao
They don’t give us free games with the OS anymore but TempleOS has HOLY games
That is…true, actually. The longer I use Linux, the more I’m like “…but what if, man, what if I ditch Arch for Fedora or NixOS or give Pop_OS! another chance (and i very well might when Cosmic launches)?” And sometimes I do…and then always come crawling back.
Going back to Windows full time ain’t even crossed my mind for a hot minute. Partly because i have a spare driver running it for emergencies (that i barely use anyways, only because Windows literally runs one important app that I need, that I can’t run on Linux), and partly because going back means being stuck with Windows 11 again, and I really dislike Windows 11’s design choices, personally (and Microsoft in general, but i digress).
going back means being stuck with Windows 11 again
Windows 10 can 100% still be installed. I say that from a Win10 install.
Oh I know it can be installed, but after the headache I got re-installing 10 once before and then trying to get 11 running on…anything, really, i just decided “you know what? What will be will be at this point. I’m not gonna need it for much anyways.” when i finally got 11 to accept and install into a random external drive that i never really used (it didn’t like the one i had inside my PC reserved specifically for it. Somehow…).
(Note: this was a while back, so installation could be a helluva lot better now and i have upgraded a bit since then but, shrug. Already got Windows ready to go on a drive, and only have it because I might need it moreso than me actually wanting to have it, so meh)
I can’t anymore. Leads to system crashing randomly. 11 works unfortunately.
paru
At a certain point I just feel like Linux isn’t designed to let me talk to God. All that bloat like networking and hardware drivers get in the way. I need to get away from the CIA mind control and return to something pure and simple. And when I feel that way, Based Terry is always there for me.
RIP Terry Davis, Temple OS forever
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Nothing TBH. I find Windows too stressful, Macs are too boring, and I can’t use TempleOS because I don’t have schizophrenia.
Damnit. You managed to give me a laughing coughing fit
The fucking GTK file chooser. It’s like all application developers have made a pact with each other to never use a consistent UX, with the exception of having to press ctrl-L to edit the path textbox. It’s painful. And as much as I like XDP, support for it is spotty at best, and sometimes downright broken.
I mean, who the FUCK puts the filesystem root in a submenu? Or sorts files and directories together? I just want to talk and explain why they’re beyond salvation.
I searched around for a bit, and apparently one could preload a library to replace the file dialog functions with an own, custom one, and I’d root for rofi (with a dmenu theme, kinda).
GTK my behated 🥲
I feel like this post is guerilla marketing for “TempleOS”, which I’ve never heard of before and will absolutely not be looking up after this.
It’s not. TempleOS is a famous from scratch OS created by a guy with serious mental illness. It’s a sad story, but the capability of that guy was incredible. He’s gone now :(
TempleOS (wikipedia) is a meme os. It’s supposed to be god’s os and was singlehandedly coded by the late Terry Davis. So this post isn’t really marketing, and the reference is just supposed to be humorous.
For real though definitely do not access this site right bellow here and install this OS
▶️▶️▶️❗❗ https://templeos.org ❗❗◀️◀️◀️
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whoosh
His reply was so serious, I didn’t dare to whoosh him. What if that reply was a joke as well? The internet is a scary place.
Was I just whooshed myself? Damn 😂
It 100% is guerilla marketing for Temple OS.
Shut up and take my money
Shut up and take my
moneyprayers
I love this reaction and how dramatically out of sync it is with what TempleOS actually is. I know it is innocent and accidental so this is in no way a shot at the poster. It is just a hilariously wrong take.
I have looked it up and to include it in that list is just downright ludicrous. Let me give you some quotes from the wiki
“The system was characterized as a modern x86-64 Commodore 64, using an interface similar to a mixture of DOS and Turbo C.”
“TempleOS (formerly J Operating System, LoseThos, and SparrowOS) is a biblical-themed lightweight operating system (OS) designed to be the Third Temple prophesied in the Bible. It was created by American programmer Terry A. Davis, who developed it alone over the course of a decade after a series of manic episodes that he later described as a revelation from God.”
“The system was characterized as a modern x86-64 Commodore 64, using an interface similar to a mixture of DOS and Turbo C. Davis proclaimed that the system’s features, such as its 640x480 resolution, 16-color display, and single-voice audio, were designed according to explicit instructions from God.”
What the actual fuck?!?
Yep. Dude was definitely nutso, but he was an incredible programmer. Shame really.
God wants you to use it.
Definitely
I’ve no plans to go back to my abusive ex.
one of these things is not like the others
Yeah, MacOS wasn’t originally intended for x86 CPUs.
It is surprisingly hard to run Android apps on Linux, despite Android itself being Linux based. Being able to run Android apps quickly and natively would be a game changer for Linux, resolving long standing issues of app availability. Hell you could even then use Android version of Microsoft Office etc. This should be a higher priority for all distros.
Until then, there are apps that are simply unavailable on Linux, even with Wine support, that necessitate using Windows or macOS.
Is Anbox no longer a thing? It runs Android apps in a container.
Or is it more the issue with the apps not running “natively”?
Waydroid nowadays. Works waaay better
Anbox is dead
Have tried to use Anbox, seriously painful to install and get working properly (Debian), and then equally annoying to install apps, and they’re still not really first class citizens like other Linux apps. The experience should be as easy as what Wine have achieved.
It is. Anbox is outdated and x11 based. Waydroid is great
Looking into Waydroid thanks 👍
That rings a bell… could one use BlissOS or Android-x86 in a vm? I can’t remember. It’s another thing I’ve been meaning to look into.
Waydroid worked fine when I tried it.
Nah, I’m 100% done with Windows. Even if good ol’ Bill comes up with something that forces me to use Windows for whatever reason, Linux will always be in my routine thanks to single board computers.
Why the hell would anyone run TempleOS?
Find vulnerabilities that could grant access to heaven
Ah, but with no Internet access or support for external devices, it’s completely secure!
Not from E-Vil
I’m plenty free from evil after reading my daily devotions gifted to me by the god OS
But they also found a vulnerability recently on the Gameboy DMG.
You don’t choose to run it, God appears to you in a vision and commands it and then you have no choice.
Because it is quite possibly the last of its kind - a desktop OS that was built from scratch by one person with one (strange) vision. Everything else has a lineage to AT&T Unix or CP/M.
There are a surprising number of one person OS projects, many of them more useable than TempleOS.
What makes TempleOS unique is the fame of its creator, sadly largely as the result of his mental illness. His story also explains how it was able to become so famous while also not attracting contributors.
Other OS projects either stay obscure or, if they become widely known, they attract contributors. SerenityOS is an example of what was a single man effort but is now a reasonably large and thriving community. It has become self-sustaining enough that the founder largely focussed on the web browser these days with the OS connoting to move forward largely via the work of others ( including ports to other architectures ).
I think part of what you are saying though is that most other projects aim for POSIX compliance and that is true. There are some that don’t but, as above, that tends to keep them obscure.
What about Redox?
Because God told them to.
…to hear the words of god? Kind of a silly question
a gun to the head
That’s the reason I use TempleOS.
I’m approaching the point where I’m seriously considering buying a spare drive for a Windows install exclusively for VR. I’m currently dealing with 3 separate serious issues with SteamVR on Linux, one of which I sometimes can’t even work around depending on how it’s feeling that day. Not to mention, every new release lately seems to introduce a new problem.
I haven’t had a Windows install on my system since my previous SSD died 2 or 3 years ago, but it’s getting to the point where it’s more trouble than it’s worth.
What headset do you have? The Index is fully supported in Linux.
It’s not fully supported: https://old.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/zs8snv/vr_on_linux_makes_me_sad/
No async reprojection
No bluetooth support for base stations power management
Does not work on Wayland, at all (Nobara, KDE)
Lacks the ability for you to continue using your headset if for some reason it disconnects and reconnects (base stations will not be detected, neither will any bluetooth adapters like the SW7)
A plethora of bugs
It feels like my headset view is on a delay? Maybe due to no async reprojection
I’m quoting this guy because I think that VR straight up doesn’t work on NixOS, and I haven’t gotten to testing my Index on any other os yet.
https://xeiaso.net/blog/nixos-vr-hell-2021-12-02/ <- It seems this guy wasn’t able to get VR working on NixOS either.
To Valve’s credit, since that post they did implement base station power management and some DEs now implement Wayland’s DRM leasing protocol, and there’s a somewhat buggy async reproduction implementation in place (although it’s broken in SteamVR 2.0 onwards).
It most certainly is not. Besides the missing features mentioned by the other commenter, SteamVR 2.1 literally shipped last week with a bug that caused it to completely stop functioning on Linux. I think the hotfix version still isn’t in the release channel. There’s another bug still present in 2.1.7 that prevents VR games from starting. SteamVR Home doesn’t work at all anymore.
2.0 had an issue where vrdashboard was using the wrong pixel format which caused the red and blue channels to be swapped (pretty sure that made it into the release channel), and there was a regression introduced in the last year (and is still yet to be fixed) that causes vrdashboard to be rendered to the controller instead of the battery indicator. Granted, these are more minor issues, but it shows the level of QA that goes into the Linux version (next to none).
That’s excellent to hear. The Index is the only vr headset I have ever been considering getting.
The parent comment is not correct. The Index paired with SteamVR on Linux has a plethora of issues and sometimes doesn’t work at all. It’s usually possible to get it working through some combination of switching SteamVR versions and rebooting, but it’s never a guarantee and usually takes a good chunk of time to get sorted when it’s being temperamental.
This is why I have a windows box. I’m hoping when they finally release SteamOS 3 for PC it will have stable SteamVR support.
The ease of buying a quality laptop without having to worry about if it will run well with my OS.
I’ve been using MacOS for about 8 years at work and I never really taken to it. It’s fine and I can do my work but I won’t use it if I hadn’t to (unless the only alternative was Windows). But one thing I really like about Macs is that you can buy one and you won’t have any headaches with battery life, software compatibility etc. You get decent hardware (let’s ignore the whole 8GB on an M3 = 16GB on other machine debacle) and know that it will work decently well with 3rd party software/hardware and if something breaks you can just bring into an Apple store.
While there are dedicated Linux sellers (System76, Tuxedo Computeres, Starlabs), I’m hesitant to spend 2k on a computer just to find out that the build quality is subpar, the battery life sucks or that customer support will just ignore my requests (read some bad experiences on the Starlabs subreddit).
Libreoffice calc does not have the functionality Excel does.
Time for a bug report 😹
Also, have you tried gnumeric?
Gnumeric is nice and lightweight, but unlikely to satisfy people who are looking for a lot of features.
Nothing, but my biggest gripe is with the fucking file explorers. All of them are super inferior compared to win10 sadly
Super inferior? Windows 10 is far worse, at least windows 11 added tabs, but still is far worse than krusader or dolphin for me.
What do you like about windows version?
What are your favorite features of the Windows 10 file manager? Listing what you miss from other operating systems can help the Linux ecosystem to improve.
For me on Gnome Files (Nautilus) its little things:
- List view of files which they had but REMOVED
- Using Alt up/down instead of backspace. Must admit unlearning this helped me use it on Win11 the same way
- Recent places (folders not files) which was removed also iirc
Nautilus also has the default bookmarks for Videos, Documents, etc hard coded and the only way to change their location/remove them is by editing config files.
Very old comment, but my 2 cents: sorting by extension instead of MIME type. I don’t want my jpegs, gifs and pngs mixed up when I tell PCMan, Thunar or Dolphin to sort by type. It annoys me to no end that something Windows has had since at least 95, most distros’ default file explorers don’t.
Man I wish my feedback would help but nobody is going to take the time to change something just because a random person complains about it on Lemmy, and neither am I gonna start a fork just for the sake of having my feature there.
Anywho, my biggest problem is with the “detailed view” mode and how it’s done in ALL file explorers on Linux.
I was more interested in what Windows gets right.
Oh, I found Dolphin to be a superior experience to File Explorer in Win 10. I had a particular hatred for how it would, when copying files inside a OneDrive folder and trying to instantly rename them, decide to mark the entire name field after about one second (when sync of new file is complete), causing me to erase everything I wrote in that second and having to start naming it again. In my last job, this occurred on a very frequent basis.
yesterday i pressed tab to autocomplete in file explorer. didnt work. then i tried to split the view so i had a way to move files without cluttering my desktop. somehow didnt work on windows. dolphin(after getting used to it coming from windows) is loads better
You’re right, but also, in my experience by the time i’m wanting those more advanced features i’d prefer to do it in the command line anyway, and so the
Right Click |> Open in Terminal
solves all my issues.What exactly is better on win10?
For one, the detailed view mode. I have tried it in Dolphin and Mint’s FE, don’t remember if Nautilus has one, but they all try to appear like this oversimplified look. There is so much padding and dead space I want it to be compact and to the point.
Second, the side bar is just, sad.
Overall I don’t like the design I guess? They all feel very… apple like? Trying to be simple but in the process becoming wayyy too simple.