Microsoft announced last week that it will allow uninstalling Microsoft Edge in the European Economic Area (EEA) in compliance with the Digital Markets
I used to think the same and sure there are still definitely games that won’t work, but gaming on Linux has come a loooong way. And with the recent bullshit that Microsoft is pulling with Windows 10 and especially 11 I just couldn’t take it anymore.
I just pulled the trigger last week and took out my Windows 10 drive! Ironically, league of legends broke on Linux again the next day. But I’m sticking with it. Windows is just so slow, bloated, and hard to navigate. And all my games run fine on Linux. LoL will probably be fixed again soon.
I’ve spent countless hours playing a game called Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI with PUK, which comes with its own DRM (non-Steam). Despite its availability on Steam, I’m hesitant to buy it again for the same experience, especially since it doesn’t run on Linux.
Another game I enjoy, Dead by Daylight on Steam, consistently runs into issues such as severe memory leaks, unresponsive spacebar after alt-tabbing, random freezes, and occasional stutters no matter what troubleshooting I attempt.
Lastly, my wife and I frequently play Fall Guys. While it’s mostly audio-related, there are occasional random disconnects that never happen on Windows, which can be frustrating for a game meant for casual enjoyment
Honest question, what do you consider not compatible? I switched to Linux earlier this year and 100%'d Armored Core 6 (Verrrrry good game everyone should play it) and I’m currently playing through Cyberpunk 2077 + Baldur’s Gate 3 co-op with friends. If AAA games like these work pretty well I’d assume the vast majority of those 60k games work as well.
These people are another barrier on the road to Linux adoption. I personally had an issue with Void Linux, a systemd free distro whose manual is seriously lacking and lots of what is in Arch Wiki may not apply there. I went to their support server, detailed my problem and said that I had done what their manual said. The first response, I get is read the manual when it is just a page long(for the specific issue I was facing).
Ultimately, it was boiling down to a wrong flag attached to the command that was listed on the official website that was not solving my problem.
Support forums kind of suck all over. I’d imagine the systemd free distros are more elitest than the norm.
Also jeeze, just meming on the internet, no need to “Those people” me sheesh.
You don’t need skills to use GNU+Linux, in the same way you don’t need skills to use Windows.
It has different ways of doing things which needs to be learned, but that also applies the other way around. I’ve not touched Windows in years, and so it’d be quite an unfamiliar environment and I’d need to learn a new way to do things. That doesn’t mean it’s bad (it is, but for other reasons).
Tl;Dr just because you’re not familiar with something doesn’t make it bad or inferior
This is very true. There is a difference between being bad at using software, and software being bad. Linux just has an intrinsically bad desktop design.
Linux not being able to launch a game (that probably was not made for it) is not a relationship issue but a technical one.
Even if it is possible to run the game but you need to hack around your distro’s configurations, you can be certain the default configuration was not made with the specific intent of preventing you from running the game.
In the Windows case you are not hacking around with the json file to solve a technical issue.
Windows is not misconfigured, it’s Microsoft’s explicit decision to prevent you from removing some of it’s software even if it’s forced by law to do so for other people.
It’s ok if you don’t mind Microsoft’s behavior or you just find Linux’s technical issues more important in choosing an OS. But the issues are not similar neither equivalent.
Or maybe the one that I had to reinstall every other month because it kept failing to boot (probably because I broke something because I had no clue what I was doing and trying to get stuff working).
This doesn’t make any sense. Drivers only get loaded if a device matching the correct device ID is plugged in. So a wrong driver won’t, can’t, load. So why would you need to rollback?
If you don’t have the correct drivers, it’ll still work, just poorly. And from there you can get the correct ones.
I admit Nvidia software is horrible, mainly because it’s proprietary and refuses to be nicely integrated. I’m not surprised they broke it. If only they’d at least release full documentation and then we could write good drivers for them.
The nouveau drivers don’t break, and are free as in freedom, but they don’t support “reclocking” for any of the RTX cards, so they’re stuck running at a lower speed. I think the 10-series got support though so they should run fine under it.
AMD support is a lot better than proprietary Nvidia, but it has it’s own freedom pitfalls (functionally, it’s fine on most distros).
Nvidia drivers are definitely an outlier in GNU+Linux, most drivers are free and so they integrate very nicely with the rest of the system and don’t randomly break.
In that same Linux I had to rack my brain and still failed to launch the game I want.
You mean like that relationship?
Sure Linux has its own pros, but not what I need.
I used to think the same and sure there are still definitely games that won’t work, but gaming on Linux has come a loooong way. And with the recent bullshit that Microsoft is pulling with Windows 10 and especially 11 I just couldn’t take it anymore.
I just pulled the trigger last week and took out my Windows 10 drive! Ironically, league of legends broke on Linux again the next day. But I’m sticking with it. Windows is just so slow, bloated, and hard to navigate. And all my games run fine on Linux. LoL will probably be fixed again soon.
I’d say Linux not running League is a feature 🙂 come play StarCraft and micro more than one unit 😁
Or Dota.
Join us over at !dota2@lemmy.ml :)
If League is still broken by new years, I’ll learn DotA. It’ll be my new years resolution haha
Are you using Steam? What game isn’t compatible with Linux and/or requires significant user effort to run?
I’ve spent countless hours playing a game called Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI with PUK, which comes with its own DRM (non-Steam). Despite its availability on Steam, I’m hesitant to buy it again for the same experience, especially since it doesn’t run on Linux.
Another game I enjoy, Dead by Daylight on Steam, consistently runs into issues such as severe memory leaks, unresponsive spacebar after alt-tabbing, random freezes, and occasional stutters no matter what troubleshooting I attempt.
Lastly, my wife and I frequently play Fall Guys. While it’s mostly audio-related, there are occasional random disconnects that never happen on Windows, which can be frustrating for a game meant for casual enjoyment
Doesn’t work with older videos cards.
On Steam 60 000 games of the 70 000 are not compatible with Linux.
Honest question, what do you consider not compatible? I switched to Linux earlier this year and 100%'d Armored Core 6 (Verrrrry good game everyone should play it) and I’m currently playing through Cyberpunk 2077 + Baldur’s Gate 3 co-op with friends. If AAA games like these work pretty well I’d assume the vast majority of those 60k games work as well.
Skill issue
Says linux elitist.
These people are another barrier on the road to Linux adoption. I personally had an issue with Void Linux, a systemd free distro whose manual is seriously lacking and lots of what is in Arch Wiki may not apply there. I went to their support server, detailed my problem and said that I had done what their manual said. The first response, I get is read the manual when it is just a page long(for the specific issue I was facing).
Ultimately, it was boiling down to a wrong flag attached to the command that was listed on the official website that was not solving my problem.
Support forums kind of suck all over. I’d imagine the systemd free distros are more elitest than the norm. Also jeeze, just meming on the internet, no need to “Those people” me sheesh.
Bruh, computers are tools to accomplish a task, if you wanna obsess over jack shit, then stare at the toilet, dont gatekeep a hobby.
Pick the tool without ads in your way then lol I’m not gatekeeping, simply saying get gud
Bruh, saying “get gud” to someone incapable of doing so doesn’t make you cool, it makes you an unempathetic asshole, and a bad software developer.
Whoa posting that comment made me a software developer?
If you need skills in order to use an OS, then that is a bad OS.
You don’t need skills to use GNU+Linux, in the same way you don’t need skills to use Windows.
It has different ways of doing things which needs to be learned, but that also applies the other way around. I’ve not touched Windows in years, and so it’d be quite an unfamiliar environment and I’d need to learn a new way to do things. That doesn’t mean it’s bad (it is, but for other reasons).
Tl;Dr just because you’re not familiar with something doesn’t make it bad or inferior
This is very true. There is a difference between being bad at using software, and software being bad. Linux just has an intrinsically bad desktop design.
Linux not being able to launch a game (that probably was not made for it) is not a relationship issue but a technical one.
Even if it is possible to run the game but you need to hack around your distro’s configurations, you can be certain the default configuration was not made with the specific intent of preventing you from running the game.
In the Windows case you are not hacking around with the json file to solve a technical issue.
Windows is not misconfigured, it’s Microsoft’s explicit decision to prevent you from removing some of it’s software even if it’s forced by law to do so for other people.
It’s ok if you don’t mind Microsoft’s behavior or you just find Linux’s technical issues more important in choosing an OS. But the issues are not similar neither equivalent.
Or maybe the one that I had to reinstall every other month because it kept failing to boot (probably because I broke something because I had no clue what I was doing and trying to get stuff working).
Or maybe the one that I had to learn how rollback graphics drivers because I bought wrong brand of graphics card.
This doesn’t make any sense. Drivers only get loaded if a device matching the correct device ID is plugged in. So a wrong driver won’t, can’t, load. So why would you need to rollback?
If you don’t have the correct drivers, it’ll still work, just poorly. And from there you can get the correct ones.
Maybe wrong terminology? Or hopefully not an issue.
Nvida released a new driver. The driver crashed my Linux every time put on load. Had to uninstall with command line. Install old instead.
With the replays on how that common with Linux and how I should brought amd. I assumed was Common frustration with new nvidia.
Oh. Nvidia. Right.
I admit Nvidia software is horrible, mainly because it’s proprietary and refuses to be nicely integrated. I’m not surprised they broke it. If only they’d at least release full documentation and then we could write good drivers for them.
The nouveau drivers don’t break, and are free as in freedom, but they don’t support “reclocking” for any of the RTX cards, so they’re stuck running at a lower speed. I think the 10-series got support though so they should run fine under it.
AMD support is a lot better than proprietary Nvidia, but it has it’s own freedom pitfalls (functionally, it’s fine on most distros).
Nvidia drivers are definitely an outlier in GNU+Linux, most drivers are free and so they integrate very nicely with the rest of the system and don’t randomly break.