In anticipation of Lemmy’s upcoming 0.19 release, and to work out any final issues, we’re going to deploy a test release on lemmy.ml within the next few days.
We’re doing this testing on lemmy.ml only, so that we can encounter any issues before the release, and to make sure the upgrade process is smooth for other production servers.
Some of the following will happen during the process:
- Apps will likely break (only for lemmy.ml)
- Lemmy.ml may experience some downtime for the upgrade to complete (ideally no more than an hour).
- If anything goes wrong, we may have to restore from a database backup, meaning content made in between backups may be lost.
If all goes well, we’ll have an official announcement for the release after this testing period.
I apologize for the difficulties this might cause. At most this will be a week of hair-pulling, but its vital that we catch any issues before telling other servers to upgrade.
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Proud to be on the official test server 🥲
haha, we appreciate the patience. We’re not a massive company with teams of people, just a couple of FOSS programmers.
This is why this instance is so well. Thank you for all the hard work in reliberating the web!
♥️
Thanks everyone for the server and service. It’s appreciated. If I wasn’t broke and jobless at the moment, I’d be happy to kick over some monthly money on Patreon or Kofi or whatever people are using these days.
Start monetizing with features and donations. Being Foss doesn’t exclude this
I there a changelog available?
There will be when we do the release. Its a big one.
I’m excited!
Cheers for all of the work you Devs have put in…
Thx!
“Upcoming”? Are we talking hours, days, or weeks?
The release? 🤞 not more than a week, as long as we don’t run into major issues.
Thank you for your service o7
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Let’s gooo!! Lemmy 0.19 ftw!
I’m excited for the scaling sort.
that has been workinf well on my instance 👍
Cheering you on from over here at lemm.ee! Thanks for making this place better for everyone!
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Ah crap I got another account there, I guess I’m cheering from both lol
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Thank you so much for your work on this instance.
How best to donate to help support?
Thanks! Here’s our donation page: https://join-lemmy.org/donate . Liberapay is preferred if possible.
can anyone tldr all big features coming in the new release?
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Removed by mod? This really is a revolutionary new feature.
Naming other instances (especially those two instances) is illegal now I guess 🤣
But I am pretty sure everyone knows what “those two” instances are, anyways.
Blatant displays of anticommunism are not allowed on lemmy ml
It’s the bare minimum they do to ensure it doesn’t just become another nazi bar instance.
If those two instances are seen as problematic by the mods of an official community I wonder why lemmy.ml is not defederated from them. lemmy.ml is defederated from so many weird/extremist instances, why not from those two?
But this is the announcement community, we should not discuss this here since it’s off topic.
ml is basically the omni-instance, the only places it’s defederated from are those which outright should not exist on the federation. I’m talking unmoderated, hate speech galore, and CSAM posted on the daily. The only thing ml defederates from outside that are porn instances. I joined a NSFW instance and tbh not missing out on much, it’s mostly commercial spam and a lot of… questionable stuff.
Can we see a list of instances that are blocked?
For lemmy.ml you can see all federated and defederated instances here: https://lemmy.ml/instances
You can see the account-based blocks in your profile settings: https://lemmy.ml/settings
In theory you could also set account-based instance blocks there but currently tyhis is broken on the front-end: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/2245
I just made that issue, what a coincidence lol
It’s you! Thanks! :)
It’s been fixed. Now we just need to wait for the next version to be deployed :)
The fix is live
Glorious!
Huh, kind of wish there was a column with a few words on why each one was blocked. Kind of curious about them, but don’t want to get myself put on a list by visiting the wrong server, you know?
Thats so cool. I think this update will be the death of reddit
If I remember correctly it doesn’t block comments from instance users, only posts which could already be archived by using apps.
A shame but better than nothing I guess.
it doesn’t block comments from instance users, only posts
Which is enough for me.
which could already be archived by using apps
And that’s the thing here: You don’t need any apps anymore because it is implemented serverside. I am also not a fan of apps in general (they don’t fit my “workflow”).
It’s nice, but it could be better.
I think scaled sort and instance blocking are the biggest new features, lots of little tweaks and bug fixes too
What’s scaled sort?
Scaled: Like hot, but gives a boost to less active communities
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They’ll post a changelog with the release but for now you can look at this post.
This is good to hear! Have you considered releasing more often with smaller sets of changes, for future releases? It seems like this will be quite the upgrade.
Yep, we’d def prefer to do smaller releases, and we’ll try to make them more frequent and smaller in the future. The main reason this one was so delayed, is because of the large number of breaking changes, esp. w/ respect to authentication.
Great idea. Hope all is fairly smooth!
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes I can finally make those shitty instances go bye-bye
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Instance blocking, baybeeeee!
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Yeah the latest update gives you the ability to block instances outright, so if you’re an antifascist you can block all the .de instances and not have to deal with weird posts constantly showing up from there whenever you talk about the nazis.
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It’s less “ok they overtly support the nazis” more “that’s weird, why would you bring that up?”
Can somebody explain what this scaling sort thing is to me? I’ve heard it a lot, but I don’t know exactly what it does.
It’s like hot sort, but gives a boost to inactive communities.
scaling sort thing? do you have a link describing what you mean?
One feature I’m hearing about it this algorithm called scaling sort and apparently it’s supposed to boost smaller community posts up more. I was just curious as to how it works internally.
I had a little bit of a look at it a while ago.
From memory it’s not really sophisticated. I think it divides a post’s score by the number of users its community has. So it’s not so different from upvotes / user.
It may use monthly active users rather than absolute, I’m not sure.
oh interesting. I wasn’t aware of that. thanks!
It’s like the other sort options, except it prioritizes communities with fewer subs, so that you’ll see content from smaller communities more often.
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They used to test on dedicated testing instances. They probably have for this already.
In the case of lemmy.ml, the users here are probably a bit old hat and dedicated to the cause and so relatively happy to help the project out while the dev team and resources are small. Meanwhile there’s undoubtedly great value in testing on a live and substantial server rather than merely a mock.
As for each new version getting worse, that’s not my impression at all.
With over 1000 instances, some having only a handful of users
That’s the point of the Fediverse.
the decision to test the new broken version on one of the most popular instances is perplexing
Yes, that’s not a good idea, regardless of how large an instance is.´or how many users it has. Testing in production is always bad (but most times the only way to get reliable test results).
After all, GitHub only represents a fraction of the user base.
GitHub in general is problematic since it’s a non-free, for-profit, corporate-hosted service.
What issues are you talking about? This would be important context so I can decide whether I care or not.
