That’ll blow over in time; it’s a big adjustment for some folk.

The ability to curate our individual experiences here is fantastic!

As one example: in the main niche Reddit sub I visited there is someone who continually downvotes literally every single comment in any given random thread, no matter what the content. It is extremely obvious when that occurs, especially when there is a rather pronounced demarcation indicating the time that it stopped. Ironically it seems to be just one person! Probably someone who was banned and since lack of consent only excites them further, now is out to “make them pay”, including the randos who never visited the sub before in their lives and now just wanted to ask an innocent question, having nothing whatsoever to do with the mods or common contributors. Here, you can see exactly who downvotes you, and could block someone doing that.

Similarly one person started abusing the report button on practically every comment I made, tagging my name 9 times in a message before I blocked them, so with that avenue to try to hurt me disabled they sought out other means. Here, again I think such reports are public.

Having to put your name to something rather than allowing it to be anonymous may cause someone to pause before jumping immediately to abusive behaviors. Sadly their parents never taught them how to behave, but at least we have better tools here to curate our receipt of what the platform delivers to us from these would-be abusers, making it much more enjoyable IMHO. I don’t think I’d like this place if it became more like YouTube or 4chan, even if some people seem to think the opposite (except those places already exist practically everywhere, even X nowadays, so like… go there if you enjoy it so much, but I’d like at least one place that is NOT that way, somewhere/somehow!?). And Lemmy/Kbin is that place!:-)

Wait, you can block and unblock individual posters and/or comments?

I did not know that, I must have not been fiddling with it enough!

Reddit is this weird combo of the unfunny pun-chain dipshits who take nothing seriously lumped in with the “AKSHUALLY” assholes who take themselves way too seriously.

Hey, some of us do both at once! Get it right! 😡

That is the best description of Reddit users I’ve ever seen. And I guarantee you they’d downvote you for saying it even though you’re right lol

And, this comment attracted exactly the type of annoying users we’re talking about.

So, the replies in this thread have brought about my first use of the block button(x3). Thanks to whoever suggested liberal use of it. Definitely recommend.

As another commenter pointed out, the lower population of Lemmy is a feature not a problem.

And when an instance gets too big, smash that block button.

I much prefer the higher mix of soft, sensitive types on Lemmy. Humor really gets in the way of feeling my feelings you know?

Man i am trying so hard to come up with an appropriate pun right now, but it’s just not happuning.

Depends on how fast you block people, some users are going to have a pretty empty experience if they just block anyone that doesnt agree with them on everything all the time. As far as hive minds go it’s just as bad here as reddit.

This is the crux of it.

I was so unbelievably sick of the rote comments (bAnAnA fOr ScAlE?!?), and edgelord opinions, and half-formed trains of thought that overlook a lot of the nuances of whatever is being discussed.

Lemmy is a lot better by miles.

* insightful. Unless you actually mean to encourage a mob, in which case, carry on!

I love the lack of karma / aggregate points on Lemmy. I hope they never add it.

The trick is that people can talk however they like, but they cannot mandate that a particular comment rise to the top of a particular scoring scheme. If commentors and voters would both use discretion based on the magazine they are in… but that is a moot point bc that won’t happen either.

Short of something like a separate voting scheme (was this comment (a) popular or (b) insightful? or maybe both types can be up/down-voted independently; but then you could sort by either one or the other), I think it will just continue to happen here, even if less overwhelming than on Reddit, due to both different audiences and scales of population.

Also repetitive.

Before entering the sub you could usually predict the top half dozen joke replies, every-time.

Okay, I definitely agree the “meme” jokes and most-frequently-upvoted joke comments were stupid as fuck, but there was definitely some gold on occasion. I think we’re looking at a 1:100 ratio, but those 1’s would crack me up.

The actual original thoughts and reactions. Not the regurgitated “jokes” that were the Reddit in-jokes, but the genuinely funny takes you’d find every so often.

The switcheroo has sadly already begun

Ah, the new Lemmy switcheroo!

I’ve never understood what’s so difficult about it. Once you flip it upside down it practically scrapes itself.

Tildes has this feature, and I love it. There are a bunch of tags that can be applied to comments, both of the “this is a brilliant contribution” and “this is noise/low effort/silly” varieties.

In general, Tildes culture is high effort, but there’s still room for fun. It’s nice to see each platform innovating.

Yes, this would be an excellent feature. Only problem is people exploiting it to hide or ridicule legitimate responses they don’t agree with. But that’s a problem for later. With the cussing userbase and growth rate this feature works be great for quite a while.

It used to be funny to open up a thread on /r/AskHistorians and see all the comments removed and the thread locked. In that sub, even true information was forbidden if it came from a dilettante.

siR tHis iS a WeNdyZ

How could you not, it was reich in front of us

Mentioned it elsewhere, but Mastodon continues to be one of the best social media experiences I have ever had (look, it isn’t as low of a bar as you would expect but still…). Something about the nature of Mastodon means people actually talk to each other and try to elaborate on talking points. My theory is it is because basically everyone on there knows it will never be “the new twitter” and are instead focused on being what twitter should have been.

Whereas lemmy… Lemmy is like going on a date with someone who just got out of a long term relationship. They can’t stop telling stories about when they were with their ex or comparing you to them. And… when you head back to their place after drinks they keep joking about whether they can film themselves giving you a blowy and sending it to their ex to show just how over him they are.

Combine that with a much more lax policy toward piracy and a LOT of “I just learned what linux is and anyone who doesn’t use it is a sheeple” college kids and… yeah. Plus, I have definitely gotten the vibe that a few people want to become one of the big “personalities” of the platform.

Honorable mention to Cohost. I think people have really done a good job of making it feel like something special. But it also feels like everyone isn’t sure how horny/weird they should go on nu-tumblr.

I have noticed a much stronger contingent of Tumblr vibes. I wish I got more humor, but instead I get this gestures broadly.

It’s the brooding sensitive types that crumble under humor or criticism that I see most. Maybe I’m the antagonist of this story but I feel like I’ve made more people cry on lemmy than I’ve made laugh or change minds, and I’m not the even the mean reddit type.

Edit: a word

lot of it has been smartasses that seeming only care about broadcasting their opinion

Honestly, I have not really experienced that much at all. Sure there is the odd case of it but blocking the odd user or sub seems to fix that pretty well.

It may well be that your instance is federated with some of the problem ones and mine is not but I haven’t really paid much attention to the federated/defederated stuff.

I have seen several posts of people complaining about the users of a periarticular instance (there are a few recurring ones) but I haven;t a seen it despite spending a bit of time browsing /all.

It’s a fine line between information between smug comments and expected internet room meme banter.

I just want to learn without being judged and there’s always a place for funny comments with some nuance. I don’t want to be talked down on for not “knowing it the right way” or only see callback comments to that one funny thing 7 years ago, y’know?

I’ve seen individual instances like that, but ofc ymmv. Curate what you do not enjoy, and maybe consider switching instances even if need be, to get something acceptable to use. Life is too short to waste your time otherwise - there will always be trolls, so let them troll, but you don’t have to choose to share the same space as them!

Although ofc some amount of that is going to happen no matter where you go, so it’s a matter of degree (and also of kind, in terms of new levels of severity) depending on your instance, the magazine you are in, etc. Even so, blocking can work wonders for someone who simply ruins every single conversation they are involved in without ever contributing positively. It is not your responsibility to help train everyone around you to live life, if you do not want to! It is nice to have choices, sometimes:-).

^This

As an early adopter of Reddit, it always had jokes. What it only recently came into possession of is an inability to be serious. I consider the jokes an enzyme, in that they are a small piece that accelerates the coming of an answer and the proportion of joke and answer should be similar to enzyme and substrate. At least one of the top 3 comments should be an attempt at answering the question or both the jokes and the answers are devalued.

Funny is good. The same endlessly recycled puns, references, and predictable comment chains aren’t funny, though.

I do agree with you, however.

That is bc Reddit used to be a discussion forum, but along the way (to the planned IPO) switched to aim to become a social media platform. Longer comments literally got harder to type out, as more users were pushed towards using the mobile app (to monetize their data?), which in turn brought in a younger crowd, used to different forms of interactions from other social media sites. I’ve heard reports of old-Reddit starting to break after July, and you just know they’ll kill it off entirely soon enough, or would if they thought they could get away with it.

Reddit literally changed, lead in large part by the push for the IPO, and it got harder and harder to buck the trend.

Until we all just gave up on it entirely and came here instead - problem solved! :-P

An argument against that is that typically the only need for multiple accounts is if a specific instance has defederated against another instance. In most cases those defederated instances are hosting hostile or pedo content. Good riddance!