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CMV: As an Arab, Im not voting for biden anymore.

I am a long term lurker, but I wanted to share my thought about all the hype suourding ‘a no-vote for Biden means a vote for Trump’. The reason I won’t be voting for Joe Biden is his blind and ultimate loyalty to Israel. I understand this is highly sensitive and controversial. I am an average Arab American with no expertise in politics, military, media, writing, or technology. Forgive me if I say something dumb. I am not alone in my decision to not vote for Joe Biden, so many Muslims, Arabs, and young people have started to call him Genocide Joe. This is not a simple issue, and I am not a single-issue voter, but I cannot ignore the atrocities committed by the Israeli government that are ignored by Biden, his administration, and other dems in Gaza. I have nothing against Jews and Israel, and I respect their right to exist and coexist peacefully. However, I strongly condemn the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, which Biden supports financially and militarily.

One of the main reasons I am not voting for Biden is his hypocrisy and double standards on human rights. He was rightfully quick to condemn Russia for its aggression in Ukraine. However, he turned a blind eye to the much worse and documented violence against civilians, journalists, health workers, UN workers, and religious minorities in Gaza. He ignored the use of white phosphorus, a banned chemical weapon, and the bombing of schools, UN shelters, hospitals, mosques, churches, and safe passages. He also ignored the worldwide and domestic calls for a ceasefire, and vetoed the UN Security Council resolution that demanded an end to the hostilities and additionally repeatedly affirmed himself as a zionist. Not only that, but he even gave the green light to Israel to continue the destruction of life and property in Gaza, by approving and sending many more and weapons and ammunition.

Another reason I am not voting for Biden is his indifference and complicity in the increased settlers’ violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. Innocent Palestinians are being literally murdered, evicted, and harassed by extremist settlers, who are backed by the Israeli army and government. Biden has done nothing to stop or prevent these crimes, or to hold the perpetrators accountable. He has also failed to support the legitimate rights and aspirations of the Palestinian people, such as self-determination, statehood, and sovereignty. He has sided with Israel on every major issue.

Biden lacks moral courage and political will to stand for justice and peace. They need to do something, but they are afraid of the powerful pro-Israel lobby and the electoral consequences. They value their own power and interests more than the lives and dignity of millions of oppressed and suffering people. Likewise, they are willing to sacrifice the principles and values that they claim to uphold and defend, such as democracy, human rights, and international law. They are also betraying the trust and support of millions of Americans, especially Muslims, Arabs, young people and even thousands of American Jews, who voted for them in the hope of change and progress and live in battle ground states.

In conclusion, I voted for him in 2020, but have decided not to vote for Joe Biden, because I cannot support a candidate who is complicit in the genocide of Palestinians, who is hypocritical and indifferent to their plight, and who is cowardly and selfish in his policies. I am not alone in this decision, and I am not voting for Trump or the Republicans either. And yes, Trump and the republicans are a lot worse for the Palestinians, but at least they are honest and open about it. In comparison, Dems are wolf in sheep’s clothing. I hope that Biden and the Democrats lose the election and learn from their mistakes. I hope that they will realize that they cannot ignore or alienate their constituents, especially the minorities and young people, who have legitimate grievances and demands.

Edit: I under that the republicans and trump are worse. But realistically for palestinians, they are the same. How is Biden legitimately different from trump? He is sending more arms and missiles that will be dropped on palestinian children. He is also trying to send navy to Yemen since they are stopping ships from getting into israel until food and medicine can enter. Biden is willing to essentially go to war on Israelis behalf.

  • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    Young people often lack the emotional maturity, experience, and appreciation for nuance and complexity that allows more mature people to see the value in choosing the lesser of evils. Young people are attracted to the idea of acting on principles. It makes them feel good.

    FUCK these people and FUCK all these shitty brainwashed Dems. Soulless freaks the lot of em

    • Praksis2nd [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      11 months ago

      liberals fucking love to infantilize people and it seems to not interest them that makes you pretty fucking hated, especially if your grievances are entirely valid!

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      11 months ago

      Young people are attracted to the idea of acting on principles. It makes them feel good.

      There’s literally bombs being dropped on Gazan youth; would the Gazan youth recommend Arab Americans also vote for Biden? If not, is it because acting on principle would make them feel good?

      This is like that comic page someone uploaded where a (mouse) parent sees their kid crying over the dead in a bombed hospital and he dismisses it by saying it had radical Islam, and when the kid is still sad about it the parents are confused and claim that that generation weird.

    • GnastyGnuts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      11 months ago

      That comment embodies the essence of modern liberalism:

      • condescendingly gesturing at “nuance” and “complexity” to hand-wave any criticism (“you just don’t get it!”)

      • infantilizing the critic by suggesting that having empty principles that you don’t act on is a sign of maturity rather than weakness and moral inferiority

      • pretending that their betters are actually just doing things to feel good about themselves, which is also an example of projection since liberals goddamn love performative useless bullshit that makes them feel like they’ve done something

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      11 months ago

      Nuance! Complexity! The reasons why Joe has been baying for Palestinian blood for decades are nuanced. The reasons why we have to support the extermination of an entire people and there are no alternatives are complicated! You just need to be mature enough to see that exterminating 2 million people and bulldozing their graves is the lesser evil!

      What do you even do with people like this?

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    11 months ago

    If Trump is so dire and Americans elect him because some Americans had the temerity to stand against genocide the USA deserves another round of Trump. If some rich awful piece of wannabe mafioso shit like Trump can boondoggle institutions and get elected despite his litany of sins the USA deserves fucking Trump. If this wretched diseased ship of empire can’t find a better port in a fascist storm well I can’t give another explanation except we fucking had it coming.

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      11 months ago

      Seriously if liberals are so goddamn concerned maybe they should do literally anything to not loose the easiest election of a lifetime for the second time in 10 years.

      Maybe they should run somebody that 70% of democrats dont say they don’t want to vote for, who tells people they aren’t going to do what they want, and apparently that’s your fault if you don’t support rhe guy who says you won’t do what you want and isn’t going to change that.

      Why is it always on voters, almost exclusively progressives, to.vote for shitty candidates that tell them to fuck off and never on candidates to not be terrible and unelectable.

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      11 months ago

      Trump legit has a chance now because Biden can’t stop himself from supporting genocide. And Dems immediately tried to block him from running. This is like provoking the Republic Victim Complex by smashing the hive on your head.

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        11 months ago

        [USA support for Israel] has nothing to do with [the two-party circus there]

        Whatever the election results, the policy towards Israel remains the same.

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    11 months ago

    Voting is public transportation. You’re getting on the bus that goes as close to your destinations as possible. That’s it.

    LMAO. When you’re so wedded to the status quo that you can’t even imagine public transportation being something other than a grudging necessity.

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    11 months ago

    Biden supports a two state solution, Trump supports a one state solution. If you want peace between Palestine and Israel you would vote Biden. If you want war, feel free not to.

    smuglord “biden is doing genocide, but have you considered trump will do genocide too? so naturally, to stop genocide, we must vote for biden”

    • very_poggers_gay [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      11 months ago

      I love the “Biden is just doing what America has always done” defense

      Like these people type it out and hit enter but never actually think about how bad of a defense it is for Biden or America, lmao

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    11 months ago

    So I just posted a post about Biden’s attempts to censor the internet via the “combating misinformation and disinformation” initiative, for which the Biden admin has been sued, and the mods removed it. Go figure. That place is so propagandized, the userbase never had a chance.

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    11 months ago

    Fun game is to go into the comments and click on the most vile ones, then check the post histories.

    Found one posting about luxury whiskey in between borderline slurs directed at gazans, can you imagine? This is what the imperial core turns human beings into, just vile, soulless husks completely devoid of empathy or compassion, shambling about the earth in search of boutique goods and scolding anyone who objects to this pointlessly cruel bloodletting. No amount of bombing could ever dehumanize Gaza as thoroughly as access to American prosperity has dehumanized these people.

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      Fun game is to go into the comments and click on the most vile ones, then check the post histories.

      Yeah, i did that a lot when i was on reddit. Was about the shittiest thing i could do on there for my mental health, and that’s saying something given that it’s fucking reddit we’re talking about.

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    As a leftist, after reviewing decades of Biden’s career, vs Trump’s, I genuinely believed Trump was less bad than Biden. Not that I voted for either of them, rather, just that Biden is in fact that bad. He’s everything that your boomer uncle believed about Jimmy Carter to be true.

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      I agree. Got into a lot of Twitter arguments in 2020. Everything they “dislike” about Trump’s policies I can point to Biden actually effectively creating laws worse than Trump’s policies.

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        I preferred that he opened up dialog with North Korea and it seems to have helped ease tensions. Trump was the only one who could do it, the establishment would never. I think that might be his one redeeming thing. On the other hand, he killed that Iran general and backed out of the nuclear deal, so I guess it was a wash.