I have been reading a lot lately about not wearing outside shoes in the house and it interests me even more because I’ve been saving to re-carpet my whole house. It hits me every now and then about how to do things though, like, say I’m cooking all day on Sunday then need to take the trash out. I’m assuming it’s change shoes, then say the grandkids stop by and want to go go for a bike ride? I’m assuming it’s change shoes. I guess maybe what I’m asking is how many baskets by how many doors with how many pairs of slip-ons (both indoor and out) do I need?
TIL I learned some people wear shoes all the time. What a time to be alive.
These are the same assholes who sound like a jackhammer when they walk in apartments.
Your neighbors probably aren’t particularly loud, your landlord cheaped out on sound insulation. And probably regular insulation.
My parents had this mini dachshund.
If you were downstairs and she decided to run the ~5 pound dog…. Well let’s just say we nicknamed her “thunder paws”
I have an old cat who is 7lbs soaking wet. Wife calls it the exorcist when running around upstairs.
it was truly impressive. you could always tell when someone started cooking- especially if they so much as glanced at the carrots… (she knew she got the tips, it was her treat…Vet recommended for training. Just chop them into tiny nibs.)
even if you didn’t break out the carrots… She was hopeful something would fall. It was amazing, at how even when she was 18; she could go from old-lady-napping to rug-shark scarfing up whatever just fell before it ever touches the ground.
¿Porqué no los dos?
Well my 250lbs upstairs neighbor makes the ceiling creak and groan, but the jackhammering they did to fix the slab on the apartment behind mine rattled my bed.
I learned from TV, American shows like Seinfeld or Simpsons where the characters are always wearing shoes. Growing up in Canada we didn’t do that and I thought it was weird
I have been rewatching Friends and it drives me nuts. They regularly jump on top of the couch and the coffee table with their outside shoes on…
That’s super dependent on the social group.
Mr Rogers had inside and outside shoes so that’s the end of the line, champ
You come from outside
You keep your shoes on
Sounds like it dirties up your apartment and is lazy, but okay, it’s about laziness I guess
You come from outside
You switch to different shoes
Makes no sense to me. Why would you do that?
It is a mixture of things. Carpet gets dirty quicker and is harder to clean than hard floors. Hard floors are worse for your feet, ankles, knees, and cause more pain. It is healthier to walk on hard floors with shoes on, padding and carpet wasn’t much of a deal (closer to grass).
Many people are moving to house shoes, I personally don’t like them. But then again I don’t like walking on tile floors for long periods of time either. It encourages sitting/laying down more often.
We just have those regular carpets (not whole floor carpeting) and socks inside. Don’t have to clean the carpets very often and isn’t hard on the feet or anything.
Wait that’s not just artists being lazy?
So is it not rude to leave your shoes on in some places?
Uh ya, it’s called TV not real life.
They are on set, not in their comfy house.
At least that explains Seinfeld. Not sure why they would do it in the simpsons. I’d imagine it’s because the writer does this shit at home too like a savage.
That’s just their workplace. They aren’t going to stop to have Kremer take off his shows. Also for people like Tom Cruise, the shows are used to change the perception of height.
People wear shoes indoors? That sounds utterly barbaric to me lol
I’m not American in any way, but I am fond of urbanism. Imagine your cities built in a very car-centric way, so to get anywhere any time you always use a car. Your shoes are almost clean all the time. Home, car, groceries, car, home, car, office, car, bar, car, home. A park is miles away, you don’t pass it by when you walk from the office. So I disagree with the barbarism. The concept is just suitable only for a specific urban design.
That’s a lot of dirty parking lots you’re walking through… even the cleanest surfaces outside have way more dust and grime than inside.
You are totally right. I’m just trying to find at least a theoretical explanation for this behavior.
You make it sound like sidewalks are sparkling clean
no-no, not at all, I’m just trying to find at least a theoretical explanation for this behavior.
In my experience, they’re cleaner than most carpets.
I’m so sorry for the carpets you’ve experienced. That’s disgusting.
Me too. Hardwoods for life.
Ever use an ill-maintained public bathroom?
Go on with your bubble boy mentality. Git.
Do you wear gloves before opening public doors too?
Lmao living in filth and being proud of it. Congratz, you’re the epitome of intellect!
Imagine thinking that taking your shoes off indoors makes you some sort of superior being.
Congrats on being able to eat food off your pristine floors I guess.
It was about your attitude, not the shoes ;) I am aware that not everyone cares about basic hygiene, that’s fine by me!
We aren’t talking about basic hygiene here my friend. Unless you are spending a lot of time laying on the floor… but most people have couches and chairs and beds and whatnot - places you don’t put your shoes on. And most people clean their house on a regular basis, which includes vacuuming and/or mopping. You anti-shoes-inside people are silly.
Yes, because dirt and germs stay exactly where they’re left and never move or multiply, and are always completely benign! Lol, I stand by my comment. :)
Also funny that you’re calling basically the rest of the world silly for figuring this out before you.
That’s why we don’t eat off floors, but from raised surfaces like… a table.
I find it so interesting people are so horrified by the thoughts of shoes indoors. I can see the benefits of having a no shoe policy, but this opinion that people must be pigs if they wear shoes inside is crazy.
In my country (The Netherlands) it’s fairly common for people to have shoes indoors. Muddy shoes will always be left at the door, obviously. And if I worked in, lets say, the garden, I obviously don’t go around the house messing up the floor. But being afraid of the germs under your shoes to hit the floor? Are people that careful with their bags too? With their pants? Or… hell… with their phones?
There’s nuance to having shoes inside which does, in fact, not make us the monsters we are told to be by this thread.
How often do you vacuum mop your floor?
I think in this example it’d be the shoe wearers wearing gloves inside all day
Just, take your shoes off inside, and put them back on when you go outside. It’s like clothes and the shower, lol
Truly bizarre it needs to be stated.
I don’t shower 10 times a day but I do leave the house in and out at least that much and not just little quick trips I could wear slippers, I’m not gonna lace up my boots 10 times and unlike them 10 times everyday. I also don’t have filthy carpets so it’s easy to clean my floors.
Why are you acting like shoes with laces are the only footwear in existence
For what I do for work and the shoes I like shoes with laces are the only option
Use flip flops for shorter trips.
may I introduce you to the wonderful world of Birkenstock?
Way ahead of you!
Awesome! :D
When you come in you leave the shoes in the mudroom and when you go out you put those shoes back on. What exactly is the issue here? This is like asking how do you shower without clothes on.
shower without clothes on.
There are dozens of us!
Exactly. I have my outside winter boots (simply called winter boots), outside shoes (simply called shoes), and a dead pair (last outdoor pair) at the back door to take out the garbage. Rest of the time I and the others in the house are barefoot or in slippers
What if you aint got a “mudroom?” Whatever that even is… Check your privilege.
Then you just take it off at the front door area. Have some sandals you can slip on in half a second if you need to take the trash out. “Check your privilege.” How fucking cringey.
Excuse the fuck out of me for not having a whole separate room for that.
I grew up in Texas. I understand your confusion. Houses are oriented a little differently here, but think of the “mudroom” as the garage. You know how you have a side door and a front door? And the side door is usually sort of attached to the garage, basement, or maybe laundry room? It is just that. A lot of people have a spot right inside that door, off to the side, for piling shoes. Otherwise you have a rack when you walk in, or you can use the closet right by your front door. It isn’t really a separate room. Good idea to have mats on both sides of the door. For whatever reason people are obsessed with split levels up here, so there is easier access to basement type areas.
Excuse me but my cardboard box only has one room. Check your privilege!
Foyer, mudroom, entrance way. If you don’t have a small cube between a storm door and a front door, then just as you come inside.
This isn’t some privilege thing, it’s literally just an area of your house or apartment. Different environments have different entryways for the houses there. No need to be so hostile just because you don’t know what a “mudroom” is.
You don’t have a room for storing mud? Peasant
These size 11 shoes were put on me as a toddler, I’ve never taken them off since.
How I aspire to one day have a mudroom so I finally have a place to take off my shoes.
Real talk, just leave em by whatever you deem to be the entrance to your home.
We’ve got a mat in our hallway that effectively serves as one. A mud room is an area to be wet or dirty and clean off before entering the house… for moat of us it’s just part of our hallway.
You have a hallway? Fuck you!
I am the image of privilege. When I’m in Chipotle I always order extra guac.
I can’t imagine sitting on my couch with shoes on.
So… I keep crocs at the door for those moments where I need to step out for a moment. slip on, slip off. For anything more… extensive than checking the mail or running out the trash; yeah, I put on proper shoes.
You’re house will be cleaner if you don’t wear shoes inside. If your feet get cold, socks, or slippers that stay inside are useful, but I generally just go barefoot. (or socked,)
This is probably why crocs are so popular.
I own a pair a couple of sizes too large for winter, so that I can step into them without even taking my slippers off.
I own a pair a couple of sizes too large for winter
I already knew what you meant by this point, although I assumed it was for giant/layers of wool socks, lol
My slippers are practically giant socks, just fleece-lined and grip soled.
Send me a link immediately, lol
Lol I just buy them from the local shops, but if you search for sherpa lined slipper socks or fleece lined slipper socks the same sort of thing comes up!
👍🏻
mom was introduced to bombas recently. got everyone a pair. they’re very nice as slippers.
Oooooo
that’s what I say everytime i pull them on. Not much of a slipper guy, but… for these, I make exceptions.
Updoot for Crocs!
I have a shoe tray near the front door, so anyone coming in has a place to put their shoes.
For mine, it has
- Crocs, for those quick errands like taking out the trash. Easy on and off!
- Sneakers, for anything longer, like walking the dog or going to the grocery. It’s no big deal to take a few seconds putting them on, since it’s for something that takes a while
- if I wore boots or work shoes or dress shoes, I’ll leave them there until they dry. No big deal to get them from my closet, since I don’t use them every day, and it would be only once
- socks for inside
This is the way. My wife has a pair of crocs just for around the house.
and now, I’m having visions of all the mandalorians in crocs.
with socks. because whose going to criticize a Mandolorian going full on dad mode?
I just wear them 24/7/365
I don’t understand this question. Are there people who wear their filthy, disgusting shoes around their nice, clean house? What animals and monsters do this? And how do you afford to constantly sweep and mop your house five times a day to keep your house clean? Or do you actually not do this and live in a disgusting, filthy, dirt-covered house all the time?
How revolting!
I don’t even wear my outside clothes inside. I change when I get home into comfy pajama clothes to relax in.
Outside shoes …. In a carpeted house!
No, and also no
Throw in a fully carpeted bathroom too.
Jesus Christ, some places…
Or do you actually not do this and live in a disgusting, filthy, dirt-covered house all the time?
Sadly, in my limited experience with people who wear their shoes inside by default, it has been this one.
Not everyone trudges through mud when they go out. My state has asphalt and concrete most of the places I want to walk.
I live in a major city that is almost entirely concrete, steel, and glass— I’m not trudging through any mud either. That doesn’t mean I don’t encounter filth, grime, and dirt, as would anyone.
I don’t want that in my nice, clean home. Ew.
Don’t forget spit.
Or walk into a public bathroom, or really any public space for that matter. Who knows what you are stepping in all day.
Street asphalt and concrete are incredibly dirty. Car exhaust, dust, whatever the wind brings, bird droppings, insects, trash, there is like a thousand contaminants.
Civilizations are filled with these disgusting things called humans. Hairy, greasy, smelly things, constantly touching and smearing themselves all over everything with their excretions and fluids and dandruffs… eeeuugghhh….
So gross.
Clean asphalt, of course. Pristine, even
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My house is held together by mouse shit and the chucks of flesh I’ve lost trying to keep it up right lol
Ya know what, I work at Home Depot. Maybe we could help you with that.
And I know Jimmy Carter is in hospice now, but I bet he knows a few people who can help!
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How dirty is your outside, that this is a concern? Are other places strewn with trash and excrement? The sidewalk outside my house and the grass in my yard isn’t any dirtier than the century-old cottage between them.
It’s dirtier than the inside of my house, and I don’t want to track that inside.
Is that truly so difficult for you to grasp?
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I didn’t call anyone anything. And if you want to track dirt and filth in your house, go right ahead. Work on your reading comprehension at the same time.
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You still haven’t shown me where I called anyone anything, just displayed how you see what you want to.
At least I won’t be hearing from you again.
How often do you go outside?
How often do you go outside?
I’m in and out at least ten times a day. Hauling firewood, tending a greenhouse, shoveling snow, walking to work depending on weather, going outside to enjoy nature, etc. Changing my clothes each time would be extremely impractical.
How many fucking doors do you have that you’re concerned about multiple shoes and multiple baskets brother?
Come on down to real fake doors…
People wear shoes in their house like it’s normal? Wtf?! Fucking savages
We did growing up. Most people I know are indifferent minus a few friends. I don’t wear them at home now, but I don’t see the big deal in keeping them on once in a while.
Do you not have carpets or what?
I couldn’t imagine fucking up all my carpets and furniture over time from being too lazy to take shoes off.
Plus I just don’t understand how it’s comfortable to wear shoes all day long. I usually can’t wait to get home just so I can take my shoes off. I don’t feel like I can truly relax without them off.
Do you wear your shoes when you’re in bed and snuggling on the couch under a blanket too???
This thread is absolutely insane to me. I can’t imagine wearing shoes all around my house.
I can’t imagine not because of the dirt issue but just because of how uncomfortable shoes are compared to just socks or sandals.
I haaaate wearing shoes…
Do you not have carpets or what?
I don’t, no. Only one room in my house has carpet, and they’re from the original owner and already gross anyway, and that room is a storage room. The rest of the house is hardwood (which needs to be redone) or linoleum.
I couldn’t imagine fucking up all my carpets and furniture over time from being too lazy to take shoes off.
It’s not always laziness, I prefer just having my shoes on unless I’ve got my feet on the couch, then it’s just socks. People have their own preferences, there’s nothing wrong with that.
Plus I just don’t understand how it’s comfortable to wear shoes all day long. I usually can’t wait to get home just so I can take my shoes off. I don’t feel like I can truly relax without them off.
🤷♀️ Don’t know, I just feel more comfortable in shoes an/or socks. I’ve never understood people who have to take their shoes and socks off as soon as they get home, you’re just getting dust and dirt and whatever else all over your feet.
Do you wear your shoes when you’re in bed and snuggling on the couch under a blanket too???
No, shoes don’t go on the furniture, unless I’d get too high in the past and fall asleep with them on. They’re warm and protect my feet.
I’ll also add, I have a dog, so, to me, it’s a moot point. He’s not wearing shoes, and he’s going to drag even worse stuff in the house on his paws, and I’m not cleaning his paws literally every time he’s gotta go out and pee, so… 🤷♀️
Idk, I see all of the points people are making about why you shouldn’t wear them inside, but I don’t understand why people are acting like they’ve never even considered the concept of just… Wearing shoes inside? Like, to me, it’s more astonishing (as a former chef) that people will cook barefoot, like, haven y’all never seen what hot oils can do to bare skin? That’s insane to me, but I’m not losing my mind over the concept.
Same here. Wood floors, 2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 kids. I will still argue that wood floors are cleaner than carpet but cat litter, dogs don’t wear shoes and it doesn’t snow here or anything like that.
I just don’t have the sort of controlled situation that people who ban shoes in house seem to have. Yes we wipe the dogs’ paws before they come in in the summer when it’s muddy and yes I have gardening boots that don’t come inside, but I put on shoes when I get dressed. We do run the Roomba twice a day, have a biweekly cleaning service, central A/C with filters and an air purifier, it’s not filthy by any means but the floor is the floor, we walk on it.
Like, if you are having a party and people are dressed up, they are barefoot? When they go on the back deck do they run to the front and grab their shoes then take them off again to come inside to grab a drink? Is it just that people up north are used to getting undressed when they come inside anyway so shoes are just like coats and scarves and hats to you? Like OP I have questions.
Yes and what’s best is we can be fully relaxed while having shoes on anywhere outdoor as an added benefit.
Savage!
My mother sewed. She lost pins all the time. As a result, I am pretty much only barefoot in the shower.
I hate having litigious family members - they’re always leaving sharp objects around the house.
OP specifically mentioned grandkids, so I’m assuming they are on the older side. When you get old, it can be nice to have the extra support of shoes, even inside your house. I never wear shoes inside but my parents (in their late 60’s) always do since their house has hardwood floors.
My dad has a few pairs of boat shoes for this reason, and my mom uses her old pairs of Birkenstocks.
I have sneakers that I only wear indoors.
Right? It’s disgusting. I don’t even see how some people can rationalise it. Would rather hurt my feet going barefoot/with socks on than drag in a thousand contaminants from the outside.
I had a rule at my house, If you want to wear your shoes inside, lick the sole from heel to toe and I will grant you can wear them. no one ever took me up on it
You are licking your floors regularly? Then yes sir, absolutely will take off my shoes. I would not dance on someone’s table in shoes; if you eat off your floor I understand.
But really, of course if someone asked I wouldn’t dream of pushing back, it’s your house not mine. Do people really fight you on that?
There were a few that pushed back on it back in the day. I hate washing floors
I actually noped out of a potential roommate situation when I saw 20 pairs of shoes on the stairs leading to the apartments front door.
Perhaps you’re overthinking this? In the house you can go barefoot, keep socks on, and/or wear slippers/loafers.
When you go outside you put on shoes.
So yes most people would have a shoe rack or just keep their shoes placed near the door. If you have multiple doors sure you can consider keeping extra pairs of shoes there or some sort of in between like outdoor slippers/something for when you just need to go check the mail or whatever.
Sandals for a quick trip outside shoes for everything else. No shoes inside.
This is the craziest thing to me…
I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. I put my boots or shoes on at the door before I go out, and I take them off when I get home. If I get cold feet, I may put on slippers.
Inside the house, I’m bare foot or in socks. If I take the trash out and it’s nice, I go out barefoot. If it’s snowy or frigid cold (I’ll leave the Winnipeg weather up to you for a fun google) I put on my boots.
I don’t know anyone who wears shoes indoors unless they are elderly and need the support. It’s a sign of middle age / senior age living here.
I can’t imagine wearing shoes indoors (at home), My feet are kept warm by socks.
Added benefit of socks is being able to do a ‘turn on your heel’ little spin 180 move.
It’s fun and satisfying, for me at least.
We have tiled floors and a sock lets you rotate easily on one heel, when you want to turn around. I never gave the saying any thought before this(“to turn on ones heel”).
My feet are kept warm by keeping my house at a temperature where I am comfortable.
So… burning energy rather then improving local insulation.
Doesn’t that destroy your socks prematurely?
Doesn’t wearing your shoes constantly destroy your shoes prematurely?
They’re a helluva lot more durable than my socks.
Not sure who’s down voting you, but socks are meant to be in shoes and shoes are meant to be in contact with the ground. Shoes have rubber soles, socks are cloth. One of these things is much more durable than the other.
I have 90% hardwood floors and my socks get destroyed if I don’t wear slippers of some sort.
Are you wearing shoes without socks?
No, the whole point of socks is to protect your shoes from your feet.
You know what? We could just put a plastic layer over the carpet to extend its life. That way we’d have shoes plus plastic and our carpet would always technically be clean, too!
Add some quality of life to this by installing multi-layer plastic sheets with perforation at the wall for easy cleanup when you forget whether your current shoes are indoor or outdoor.
What are your floors made of???
hardwood
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ITT: a bunch of fragile mfs who never walk barefoot outside.
If you can walk outside in -20 f (-28 c) barefoot and still feel your feet after ~15 seconds and avoid frostbite inside of five minutes, I might accept that I’m weaker than you.
But, assuming you’re human and not possessed of prosthetic feet…. I’m going to assume your toes would fall off just the same as mine.
Yeah I go out in the yard with the dog or take out the trash in winter here in Montreal. Granted it’s a minute here or there but it’s true. Not calling anyone weak or anything but it’s just a little snow or cold.
You’re still probably getting frost bite, and yes, the cellular damage caused by frostbite can add up over time making it quite severe even with the ‘casual’ exposure.
There’s no weakness in prudence. being imprudent can lead to it though (or rather amputations, at worst.)
Do you have a source to back that up? I’m having trouble finding anything that says you have to be out less than 15 minutes before frostbite kicks in. It’s like saying you’ll get frostbite in your hands if you hold some ice for a minute.
Every cold safety thing ever; Keep in mind, that’s wind chill (“feels like”), in limited wind, the ground is going to pull more heat faster.
Freezer ice is usually not -20, though. (Freezers are usually set to 0-10 degrees f)
To be fair in that kind of weather going outside is a 15min, 12 layer ordeal, the shoes are a small concern at that point.
Doesn’t this defeat the point of taking your shoes off inside? If your concern is tracking in dirt or germs on your shoes, tracking them on your feet is arguably worse unless you’ve got foot wash stations at the doors.
I live in the UK so if I did that I’d get wet feet. It never really dries here.
What? This is like asking people if they wear a coat inside the house.
We have outside clothes and we have inside clothes, and the outside clothes are not worn inside, because they’re outside clothes.
say I’m cooking all day on Sunday then need to take the trash out. I’m assuming it’s change shoes, then say the grandkids stop by and want to go go for a bike ride? I’m assuming it’s change shoes.
Yeah? Why would I want mud and dirt tracked into my carpet?
I grew up in a shoes inside, coats inside house. To see this much shock at both is kinda crazy to me, didn’t realize it was so uncommon.
I’m so confused. Why would you track all that shit into your house?
I still wear a light jacket inside often as I keep the place between 60-65. Stopped wearing shoes inside as I hate cleaning. That’s how I was raised though, and wearing shoes inside isn’t terribly uncommon here. Maybe it’s a regional thing, maybe a class thing, but people asking you to take off your shoes when you visit is way less common than not. I have to ask people to take off their shoes when they come over and it’s considered bougie.
Interesting. Here in France the “bourgeois” thing is usually to not have your guests take their shoes off inside (because you’re not the one doing the cleaning later)
Ya might be interested to know that “bougie” is an American slang term pronounced “boo-zhee” that refers to someone acting high class that isn’t. That’s really interesting though, how common are housekeepers in France?
Bougie is derived from bourgeoisie, and would mean the same thing, as in a bourgeoisie would let you walk in the house with dirty shoes since he’s the lord of the manor and cleaning is why he has servants.
Yeah that’s where it’s derived but the connotations are a little different.
Old-timey style housekeepers are basically only a thing for the ultra rich, but hiring someone to clean your house and/or do some laundry is quite common in the upper middle class
Oh wow. That’s interesting as hell to me. Are you in America? I was born in Midwest lived in south and back in Midwest. I had one friend whose house I didn’t have to take shoes off at and I uh didn’t cause their carpet was gross… lol
Yeah I’m in the US, fahrenheit probably gives that away, always lived in more rural communities too.
What do you do if it was raining? Don’t you now have mud and water inside your house.
I usually don’t get mud on my jacket when it rains, how do you even do that?Unless it’s a complete downpour, microburst levels of water, the jacket would only be slightly damp. Jackets don’t hold water by design, and if it’s drenched I’d put on something else. If your shoes are muddy, wet, or covered in snow then you take them off.
Right so you do take your shoes off when you go inside.
This is such a weird thing to try and suggest is normal.
Yes but 90% of the time they are not muddy or wet or snowy, and they stay on.
Yeah, and I’m the strange one for asking guests to do so, and wasn’t raised that way. Even people with much nicer places than mine don’t expect others to take their shoes off.
Same, never crossed our minds growing up unless we were wet or muddy.
After I come inside and take off my outside coat, I always put on my inside coat. Except for bedtime when I put on my bedtime coat (and shoes)
You mean you don’t have a morning coat?
Of course, I put it on after I take off my shower coat
