Is there any reason, beyond corporate greed, for SMS messages to cost so much?
If I get it right, an SMS message is just a short string of data, no different from a message we send in a messenger. If so, then what makes them so expensive? If we’d take Internet plans and consider how much data an SMS takes, we should pay tiny fraction of a cent for each message; why doesn’t that happen?
Where are you that you’re paying anything extra for sms? They used to be expensive because they could charge that much, now that are included in even the cheapest prepaid plans. If you are paying per message, that’s a you problem and you need to find another wireless provider.
There is a large contrast in this regard between NA and Europe. In Europe data is dirt cheap and wifi is usually available anyways so messaging over whatsapp/signal/whatever is much more common than trying to use SMS. In America public wifi is extremely rare and businesses are so spread out that coverage is limited… people also tend to use iPhones which default you into their shitty iMessage - SMS was also traditionally much cheaper so it’s more of a habit in NA.
GSM SMS protocol is the same on both continents. The reason SMS became free in the US with 4G, was as an attempt to level competition for cell phones that weren’t iPhone, since the iMessage protocol uses data transmission rather than SMS. Now that Android uses RCS, which is also data transmission, the only use for SMS is Android to iPhone texting and dumb phones.
None of that is actually true as a contrast.
There are tons of free wifi networks from hotels to restaurants, etc.
None of what you are saying makes any sense.
In Barcelona, I can go for a ten mile walk and constantly be in range of 3+ open wifi networks. In America it’s not uncommon to be out of range of wifi when standing on the curb closest to a restaurant or hotel… additionally American wifi networks are much less likely to be open and municipal services are less well funded.
All of that is true, and makes perfect sense. It all depends on where you live, of course.
Not everyone lives in densely packed urban areas.
That’s hilarious. I currently live where I can see like 3 of my neighbors.
And? I can see several neighbors’ residences. We barely get cell signal half the time, and the only Internet currently is dodgy WiFi, which also regularly goes wonky. A lot of times we can walk into nearby establishments and leave empty -handed, because Internet is down and we don’t have cash enough in have to make our purchases.
Sounds like you need to move away from the actual sticks.
I call where I am country’ish because while I have only a handful of neighbors, we have gigabit down from spectrum, damn near gig over 5g, etc.
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There’s literally like four places with free wifi in my entire town. Most of the restaurants don’t have it, and we only have two hotels… neither of which has properly free wifi- you have to get a room to use it.
If you want to get technical, my town (really a village) has zero free wifi networks. It’s the larger city to my south that has all of the restaurants, hotels, retail, etc with free wifi.
If you need to send SMS commercially they’re still generally priced at $0.03 each. I just had to deal with that because some users will apparently only turn on MFA if they can get the codes by txt.
OP didn’t clarify personal versus business. I’m aware of how much businesses get ripped off, I’ve looked into using the short codes for promoting my own business and shit is not cheap.
I considered setting up a raspberry pi with a 4g hat because of that.
In the wild west days of the internet we used to connect consumer CDMA phones straight to our servers. You’d walk around your COLO and peek in racks of crazy expensive, rack mounted hardware with the world’s cheapest flip phone sitting on top.
The telcos caught wind and started terminating accounts. It was a great way to have a server tell you it fell off the network.
I spend about £15 per year on my phone. No way that could be beaten with a contract. I’m still annoyed at how expensive it is though
Where did I say anything about a contract? I spend $1800/year for 4 lines, 3 personal and 1 work line. In the USA at least, prepaid beats postpaid/contract every day of the year. Every time I price moving all 4 lines over to postpaid to get easier access to esims, a little leeway on payment, etc, I always end up staying with prepaid.
I assumed it was the same thing. In the UK, all our phones are prepaid. You can either get a contract for a set monthly amount, or you buy credit which you spend over time (which presumably is what you mean by prepaid).
While we’re on the subject, is it true that you have to pay to receive calls in the US?
I’m not certain what you’re asking. Are you asking if someone can call you and make you pay for it? Not that I’ve ever seen. With the exception of jails/prisons- inmates can collect call you. I imagine it’s a thing in other contexts, but not that I’ve ever experienced.
Generally, ime pretty much everyone has unlimited calls and texts these days. It’s pretty dirt cheap. Data is much more expensive and limited. Even “unlimited” data plans are only technically so- after some arbitrary but generally high amount of data they’ll throttle the absolute hell out of you.
I’ve got this weird half-remembered thought in my head that you don’t have a separate set of phone numbers for mobile / cell vs landline (in the UK, all mobile numbers start 07… ). Therefore you don’t know who you’re calling so it wouldn’t be possible to charge extra when calling a cell phone, therefore the owner of the cell phone has to pay that extra amount.
Like I said, it’s just a vague half-memory and I could have completely made it up. That’s why I’m asking