And what’s an example of a non-atomized society?

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        25
        ·
        7 months ago

        Sociology profs are more likely to be Marxists than just about any other field and Marx did some absolutely fundamental sociological work in his economic, political and philosophical works. A lot of Sociological studies under capitalism is to try to undermine the Marxism, but Sociology without Marx is like biology without Darwin.

                  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    13
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    7 months ago

                    So, you came to a leftist message board and didn’t expect people here to be Marxists? Explain why you think I’m wrong, get flooded with replies and then banned. You’re coming at this like you aren’t in our space. You’re not going to win rhetorically and change our minds and you’re not gonna convert anaudience to whatever ridiculous notions you believe in cause were already leftsts and feel pretty strongly about it, otherwise we wouldnt be here… When you deboonk Marx at me, please be sure to enlighten us to your own point of view and what should be done in the same circumstances because you’re smarter than Marx and all of us. Cause otherwise you’re wasting your time and looking like a fucking blockhead who spouts off vague platitudes in order to do nothing in particular.

                    Before you’re banned Explain why you’re here.

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        7 months ago

        I think the problem the prior user is highlighting is that sociology itself is a liberal science. It functions to reinforce liberalism rather than challenge it.

        We have several struggle sessions about various aspects of psychology having the same problem, existing to find solutions to the problems that liberal society creates in people rather than to change the conditions that are causing those problems. Lonely and depressed from atomisation? Liberal psychology says take some pills to solve it whereas Marxists say we need to fundamentally change how we live and stop atomising society in order to improve people’s mental health. That kind of thing is present as an issue in sociology as much as it is in psychology. Treating the problems of society rather than truly challenging the fact that the society that capital has created is responsible for them and needs to change instead.

          • LesbianLiberty [she/her]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            7 months ago

            Medicine and psychology are related fields? Liberal psychology is the identification for how institutions of psychology under liberalism will focus towards solutions that can make one feel better individually but falls short of creating solutions that address the root of an issue systemically. For example, under liberalism one may endure extreme stress due to their economic precarity; and a psychologist would reccomend solutions and help out in a way that helps one cope with the stress, but is unable to help address the economic precarity at the root of this stress.