White supremacist gangs are generally privileged enough to afford regular guns. Crackdowns on gun possession have overwhelmingly targeted and been selectively enforced against black and other non-white communities and left wing groups, whereas Kyle Rittenhouse shot three people at a BLM rally then walked right past the cops who didn’t even intercept him, then he was acquitted. The only BLM protestor to shoot someone was basically assassinated by the feds.
There are plenty of problems with guns in the US and I think there are a few regulations around purchasing them that make sense, but this is virtually a non-issue. Printing guns is so time and resource intensive that unless you are arming a militia in a place where the general population has very limited access to guns, it’s not really going to change much.
The one other thing you can do with 3d printing is make full-auto guns and modifications, and those are scary but not really important. Full auto has limited tactical use in squads in pitched warfare. Semi auto will work for 99% of cases, and if the need for full auto is coming up a lot, you’re probably in a position to use your gun-to-get-a-gun. We’re talking about situations where the law has already broken down, like Myanmar.
Now I can understand why the state would be scared of the tech, but I don’t see it helping white supremacists. They already have all the help they need.
and if everyone were rational professionals this world would be a much better and more predictable place.
Unfortunately, as is OBVIOUS, the world is actually run and full of amateur hour irrational shits who just love things like 3d printed auto mods so they can spray a full mag in one dump, they don’t care who’s behind their target.
And these dumbfucks are enabling them.
And the idiots who shout “but that’s censorship!” don’t understand how censorship works, don’t understand that youtube is a private corporation that’s allowed to define it’s own rules.
If they want to use a giggle switch and they’re irresponsible with it and someone gets hurt, that sucks, but it doesn’t have much to do with the threat of white supremacist terrorism that the other person was talking about.
If you’re irresponsible and you’re shooting without knowing your target and what’s beyond it, you’re already in breach of a law called reckless endangerment. You might be able to do a bit more damage that way, but ultimately you can empty a 30 rounder or even 3x10 rounders pretty fast with semi-automatic too. Adding another law on top to restrict the type of weapon doesn’t really make anyone much safer.
Plus if you’re really that concerned, just look up the Yankee Boogle. It is a tiny, easily 3d printable piece of plastic that you can drop into the action of an AR15 and make it full auto illegally in seconds. Run into cops? Chuck it in the bushes and make another tomorrow.
Resticted mag sizes? Mags aren’t that hard to make out of sheet metal from a hardware store, and changing mags doesn’t take that long. None of this stuff really makes people much safer if they’re left inside with the shooter for hours whilst the cops cower behind their cars and stop parents from trying to save their kids.
Trying to make people unaware of this doesn’t actually make anyone safer. You can cry about the rights of a multinational corporation to control speech on a platform that should be a public commons, it doesn’t change what is effective, and we’ve all learned from decades of internet history at this point that trying to stamp stuff like this out just doesn’t work. It’s always going to be there.
Also, youtube isn’t going to maintain its monopoly forever. It’s enshittifying and peertube is waiting in the wings to pick up the slack. Then it really won’t be up to youtube anymore.
Mags aren’t that hard to make out of sheet metal from a hardware store,
bwahahahahaaaa oh my, yes please, homebrew all your mags so I can hear the misfires from here
Also, youtube isn’t going to maintain its monopoly forever. It’s enshittifying and peertube is waiting in the wings to pick up the slack. Then it really won’t be up to youtube anymore.
Maybe then I’ll have to stop seeing the constant whining… Trying to make people unaware - lol wtf does that even mean? FORGET YOU SAW ME!
No, not spreading the easy steps on their platform is NOT trying to make people unaware, it’s simply a decision not to further propagate illegal bullshit. god though, the linguistic knots you have to tie yourselves into
none of your arguments convince me that youtube should have to carry the shit so we’re back to square one. ___
In my experience, they tend to side with cops against minorities, but only to that extent. They tend to be the methy, gas-station-robber types who don’t get on well with cops.
Not quite. White supremacists also overlap with the whole “rebel” and “rugged individualist” and “prepper” mindsets. Which are fundamentally incompatible with central authority in any way.
I guess you could really split white supremacists into two camps, the authoritarian and anti-authoritarian camps. You’ll find a lot of the latter in prison gangs, and a lot of the former among the police. The two don’t always get along, is my point. They both hate minorities, but they’re otherwise quite different.
They are the cops. Look up just about every far-right protest in the past century and how they’re given a police escort to and from the site. How the cops look the other way when there is right wing started violence and there is grave injury or death. How white supremicist cops that kill face unpaid time off way more than jail time.
These authoritarian right wingers are anti-authority to the point they want to exterminate all authority who keep them from violently suppressing anyone who doesn’t want to oppress others. And they have to intimidate, cheat, lie, appoint other crooked liars because they’ll never win the votes they need from a free electorate. The voting majority thinks they are wrong.
You’re wrong, but also combative, clearly don’t care about the right answer and are looking for a fight
So, you know
Not worth my time
It’s all academic anyway. Making sure you know about the different types of white supremacist is not really important. So if you want to fight, fight someone else about something else.
No, they arent. Theyre unhappy with the current authorities, but they simp hard for the authorities of the 50s and 60s, especially the southern authorities.
I’m saying you don’t have the context to understand. I do, but you’re not interested in listening, so whatever. It’s not a critically important issue. But from these conversations I can see I’m the only one here who actually grew up surrounded by white supremacists. The rest of y’all only have second or third hand info.
But again, it’s not a hill worth dying on so whatever.
Not in the traditional sense of the word. Say Joe is a white supremacist. He’s white and he’s poor. He believes that all whites are better than all minorities. However, Joe is also not in power, because other white people are in power, and Joe doesn’t like those other white people (though Joe prefers the powerful white people to any minorities). Joe will work with the powerful white people to keep minorities down, but otherwise his goals and believes are different than those of the powerful white people, and he resents them.
Southern prisons are full of people like Joe. Joe has some power in everyday life over minorities, due to the racist society he lives in and supports. But it’s a big stretch to say Joe is in power. Cops, judges, and politicians are in power. Joe steals catalytic converters and sells meth.
It limits the accessibility of the information, meaning that both terrorists and freedom fighters will be less likely to find it. YouTube suppresses age restricted material, whether they claim to or not.
I think the people who get up in arms over 3d printed guns forget that most people will never develop the skills or even have the prerequisite skills to make one anyways. It isn’t like you just plug in the printer, down load a file, and you have a gun. You need to learn alot of other things to actually make something functional. Things like ECM (electro chemical machining) is often necessary and a whole host of other skills.
3D printed guns are being used by fighters in Myanmar.
https://3dprint.com/302100/myanmar-rebels-rely-on-3d-printed-guns-to-fight-military-junta/amp/
They’re pretty important if you want to be anti-authoritarian.
Also pretty important if you want to supply white supremacist gangs in the US.
What? Don’t they just go to Walmart?
Walmart is too woke! Chick-Fil-A does it best! /s
Lol. No. They’re already set. Worry about the large number of minorities that have lost their 2A rights to an unjust legal system.
But they already have all the guns?
White supremacist gangs are generally privileged enough to afford regular guns. Crackdowns on gun possession have overwhelmingly targeted and been selectively enforced against black and other non-white communities and left wing groups, whereas Kyle Rittenhouse shot three people at a BLM rally then walked right past the cops who didn’t even intercept him, then he was acquitted. The only BLM protestor to shoot someone was basically assassinated by the feds.
There are plenty of problems with guns in the US and I think there are a few regulations around purchasing them that make sense, but this is virtually a non-issue. Printing guns is so time and resource intensive that unless you are arming a militia in a place where the general population has very limited access to guns, it’s not really going to change much.
The one other thing you can do with 3d printing is make full-auto guns and modifications, and those are scary but not really important. Full auto has limited tactical use in squads in pitched warfare. Semi auto will work for 99% of cases, and if the need for full auto is coming up a lot, you’re probably in a position to use your gun-to-get-a-gun. We’re talking about situations where the law has already broken down, like Myanmar.
Now I can understand why the state would be scared of the tech, but I don’t see it helping white supremacists. They already have all the help they need.
and if everyone were rational professionals this world would be a much better and more predictable place.
Unfortunately, as is OBVIOUS, the world is actually run and full of amateur hour irrational shits who just love things like 3d printed auto mods so they can spray a full mag in one dump, they don’t care who’s behind their target.
And these dumbfucks are enabling them.
And the idiots who shout “but that’s censorship!” don’t understand how censorship works, don’t understand that youtube is a private corporation that’s allowed to define it’s own rules.
Okay, some gun owners are irresponsible.
If they want to use a giggle switch and they’re irresponsible with it and someone gets hurt, that sucks, but it doesn’t have much to do with the threat of white supremacist terrorism that the other person was talking about.
If you’re irresponsible and you’re shooting without knowing your target and what’s beyond it, you’re already in breach of a law called reckless endangerment. You might be able to do a bit more damage that way, but ultimately you can empty a 30 rounder or even 3x10 rounders pretty fast with semi-automatic too. Adding another law on top to restrict the type of weapon doesn’t really make anyone much safer.
Plus if you’re really that concerned, just look up the Yankee Boogle. It is a tiny, easily 3d printable piece of plastic that you can drop into the action of an AR15 and make it full auto illegally in seconds. Run into cops? Chuck it in the bushes and make another tomorrow.
Resticted mag sizes? Mags aren’t that hard to make out of sheet metal from a hardware store, and changing mags doesn’t take that long. None of this stuff really makes people much safer if they’re left inside with the shooter for hours whilst the cops cower behind their cars and stop parents from trying to save their kids.
Trying to make people unaware of this doesn’t actually make anyone safer. You can cry about the rights of a multinational corporation to control speech on a platform that should be a public commons, it doesn’t change what is effective, and we’ve all learned from decades of internet history at this point that trying to stamp stuff like this out just doesn’t work. It’s always going to be there.
Also, youtube isn’t going to maintain its monopoly forever. It’s enshittifying and peertube is waiting in the wings to pick up the slack. Then it really won’t be up to youtube anymore.
bwahahahahaaaa oh my, yes please, homebrew all your mags so I can hear the misfires from here
Maybe then I’ll have to stop seeing the constant whining… Trying to make people unaware - lol wtf does that even mean? FORGET YOU SAW ME!
No, not spreading the easy steps on their platform is NOT trying to make people unaware, it’s simply a decision not to further propagate illegal bullshit. god though, the linguistic knots you have to tie yourselves into
none of your arguments convince me that youtube should have to carry the shit so we’re back to square one. ___
This is just an incoherent mess, I could try to parse it all out but I really don’t care to. Bye.
Many white supremacists ARE anti-authoritarian.
What? Most of them “back the blue” which is about as authoritarian as you can get
In my experience, they tend to side with cops against minorities, but only to that extent. They tend to be the methy, gas-station-robber types who don’t get on well with cops.
So like most Authoritarians then? They’re all for it until their side isn’t in charge anymore.
Not quite. White supremacists also overlap with the whole “rebel” and “rugged individualist” and “prepper” mindsets. Which are fundamentally incompatible with central authority in any way.
I guess you could really split white supremacists into two camps, the authoritarian and anti-authoritarian camps. You’ll find a lot of the latter in prison gangs, and a lot of the former among the police. The two don’t always get along, is my point. They both hate minorities, but they’re otherwise quite different.
They are the cops. Look up just about every far-right protest in the past century and how they’re given a police escort to and from the site. How the cops look the other way when there is right wing started violence and there is grave injury or death. How white supremicist cops that kill face unpaid time off way more than jail time.
These authoritarian right wingers are anti-authority to the point they want to exterminate all authority who keep them from violently suppressing anyone who doesn’t want to oppress others. And they have to intimidate, cheat, lie, appoint other crooked liars because they’ll never win the votes they need from a free electorate. The voting majority thinks they are wrong.
You need to broaden your sources of information.
Oh? Do tell. Great post btw. What’s next? A damning Do YoUr OwN ReSeArCh?
Like
You’re wrong, but also combative, clearly don’t care about the right answer and are looking for a fight
So, you know
Not worth my time
It’s all academic anyway. Making sure you know about the different types of white supremacist is not really important. So if you want to fight, fight someone else about something else.
No, they arent. Theyre unhappy with the current authorities, but they simp hard for the authorities of the 50s and 60s, especially the southern authorities.
I see you’ve never actually met any white supremacists.
I have met plenty of trump supporters and they are racist bootlickers.
So, no.
I see. We are just plaining calling me a liar now.
Have a nice day.
I’m saying you don’t have the context to understand. I do, but you’re not interested in listening, so whatever. It’s not a critically important issue. But from these conversations I can see I’m the only one here who actually grew up surrounded by white supremacists. The rest of y’all only have second or third hand info.
But again, it’s not a hill worth dying on so whatever.
You do realize that “not liking the current government” and being anti authoritarian are two very different things.
I know, and I meant it. Many of these guys are against any sort of authority. They don’t want to be in charge, they want chaos.
It’s 100% authoritarian to believe that “whites” are supreme.
Not in the traditional sense of the word. Say Joe is a white supremacist. He’s white and he’s poor. He believes that all whites are better than all minorities. However, Joe is also not in power, because other white people are in power, and Joe doesn’t like those other white people (though Joe prefers the powerful white people to any minorities). Joe will work with the powerful white people to keep minorities down, but otherwise his goals and believes are different than those of the powerful white people, and he resents them.
Southern prisons are full of people like Joe. Joe has some power in everyday life over minorities, due to the racist society he lives in and supports. But it’s a big stretch to say Joe is in power. Cops, judges, and politicians are in power. Joe steals catalytic converters and sells meth.
being racist has absolutely nothing to do with being authoritarian.
Those are called cops, and they’re already pretty well armed.
How is this relevant? They will still be able to watch YouTube videos about the topic like before, it’s just age restrictions for under 18
It limits the accessibility of the information, meaning that both terrorists and freedom fighters will be less likely to find it. YouTube suppresses age restricted material, whether they claim to or not.
I mean still not really, don’t think it’s going to do that much
I think the people who get up in arms over 3d printed guns forget that most people will never develop the skills or even have the prerequisite skills to make one anyways. It isn’t like you just plug in the printer, down load a file, and you have a gun. You need to learn alot of other things to actually make something functional. Things like ECM (electro chemical machining) is often necessary and a whole host of other skills.