• TheBroodian [none/use name]
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    397 days ago

    I low-key suspect that the attempted assassination has affected Trump more than he wants to let on, and he isn’t actually invested in being president anymore.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      257 days ago

      He was already pretty dry at that point. No one talked about because Biden was wven worse, but he’s declined a lot. Probably been like this since he had Covid

      • gueybana [any]
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        177 days ago

        I was honestly surprised by how… nice he was being to Biden in the first debate while the guy was sundowning live on air. There was only one quip (I’m not sure what he’s saying and I don’t think he knows what he’s saying) but otherwise he seemed completely checked out from being his usual self.

        • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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          127 days ago

          Yeah, i imagine in Trumps debate prep they decided not to push to hard if Biden went full senile. Most people wouldn’t react well to seeing a senile old man attacked.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]OP
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      7 days ago

      I agree. When he was recovering from covid - he wanted to leave the hospital and do a reveal to show he was wearing a Superman shirt underneath. And when took his reality tv-like triumphant return to the White House via Marine One - I’m not exaggerating when I say I thought he might have a stress-related health problem right then outside the White House. He looked sickly and struggling to breathe. But he was in denial and the hogs loved it. Their hero returned.

      When he nearly got assassinated - his raised fist was an insane display of courage. And then - all things considered - he had fairly dignified exit from the stage to his armor-protected vehicle. It was in no way like the movies where the Secret Service agents are pushing the president along because every second counts. And in another un-movie detail - I think he even managed another raised fist before they finally managed to get him in the car. It’s impossible to know what he was thinking in the aftermath but I think it was possible his massive adrenaline rush made him forget that actual reality is not like reality tv. When you die in reality - that’s it. You’re actually dead.

      And then when he turned on his tv - even in his right-wing media bubble he must have felt awful when it was clear a huge number of people didn’t care very much about him or they were lamenting the fact he didn’t die. After the shooting - I’m unaware of any grandstanding and boasting Trump did about it. And I assume not only has he been ruminating that he nearly died - he’s probably also thinking you can only avoid the Grim Reaper only so many times and at 78 - he’s not going to live forever.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        87 days ago

        It’s impossible to know what he was thinking in the aftermath but I think it was possible his massive adrenaline rush made him forget that actual reality is not like reality tv. When you die in reality - that’s it. You’re actually dead.

        IMO Trump doesn’t have an ideological drive that justifies personal sacrifice, on the contrary he is extremely selfish and MAGA atracts exactly a huge part of this selfish chauvinistic white population.

        So yeah when he had the opportunity to reflect on whether any of this is worth dying for he probably couldn’t answer with “yes” unequivocally. Heck I doubt he even actualy cares or believes in actual MAGA rhetoric if it doesn’t include direct benefits to people like him.

        Not like this isn’t obvious either, bullies tend to be cowards as a stereotype and first of all Trump’s entire personal life before MAGA was entirely as part of the privileged capitalist class. He is part of the least likely group of people to ever consider any sort of altruism or sacrifice for a greater goal.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]OP
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          67 days ago

          he is extremely selfish and MAGA atracts exactly a huge part of this selfish chauvinistic white population.

          In early/mid 2017 - I left liberalism. In two words: Sebastian Gorka. News broke that there was a Nazi in the White House so I assumed he’d resign or get fired. Surely that had to happen. What a quaint thought that seems now. After some time had passed (About a month? Two months?) I realized two things that made me sick to my stomach. One, Trump wasn’t going to ask him to resign. Two, the democrats weren’t going to demand he resign. I could see how utterly useless the democrats would be in dealing with Trump in general.

          In fact - I assume that in private in 2017 DC dems focused on what they considered the silver lining of Trump’s presidency. They figured they’d do well 2018 and in 2020 after Americans realized who they elected. Of course that was nonsense. Trump’s base knew who he was - that’s why they voted for him! In the end and up to now - I’ve been 100% unsurprised that the DC dems were not only shortsighted but idiots as well. Libs would never admit it but I think some of them still realize that if not for covid - Trump would have won a second term.

    • Tofu_Lewis [he/him]
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      67 days ago

      There’s a story about how he watched the assassination attempt video on repeat for a time, so yeah, he’s shook

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    297 days ago

    I don’t see why not. Polls don’t appear to have change at all as a result of this debate despite the stupid shit he said.

    The only person that has anything to lose from the debate is her surely.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      117 days ago

      Liberals are cold spineless opportunists, but conservatives absolutely revel in clownish bullshit.

      It’s jokermala 's contest to lose. trump-moist is getting the same output of support no matter what.

  • LocalOaf [they/them]
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    247 days ago

    They need to get him back on the steroids he was taking when he went to Walter Reed and give him “debate prep” where he just gets to go in the hyperbolic-time-chamber and bully jeb and christie-zinger

  • Parzivus [any]
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    737 days ago

    Yeah no shit lol. They fact checked most of his unhinged shit (which is fine) but Kamala can spout Israeli propaganda lines without issue.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      227 days ago

      They gave her a complete pass on everything and hammered him. Not that i care how they treat him, but their idea of “facts” are definitely skewed toward the lanyard accepted view

    • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]
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      537 days ago

      Ummm saying that Israel has the right to fertilize their crops with the bone meal of ground up Palestinians is an opinion. No fact check needed smuglord this is 0 Pinnochios

    • QuillcrestFalconer [he/him]
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      457 days ago

      Also what the fuck was she on about when she accused Trump of selling ships to China? Trump started the whole export restrictions thing

  • nothx [he/him]
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    587 days ago

    Sandpaper. Absolutely no moisture in that campaign anymore.

    What happens when neither candidate has any juice?

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    577 days ago

    Okay but hear me out what if they replace Trump with someone personable, and then they debate, and now Harris loses, so then they replace Harris, and then the new duo debates, and then the Trump replacement loses, so then they replace that guy, and let’s just do that forever and never have another election again ppb-gigachad

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]OP
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    357 days ago

    r/politics thread

    As you can imagine - they’re gleeful. They love shit that doesn’t even matter.

    He will never recover from the narcissistic injury he suffered at that debate. He won’t debate anyone again, ever.

    Never seen the fuckface so wounded in public. He won’t even look at her, like she doesn’t exist, lol…

    That’s exactly how malignant narcissists deal with narcissistic injury… whatever (or whomever) caused it is banished from their lives.

    I would genuinely not be surprised if he never even mentioned her name the rest of the campaign and just says Biden.

    -–

    she grabbed him by the pussy

    His neck fat?

    • Crowtee_Robot [he/him]
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      177 days ago

      I love how every online liberal acts like they’re the Will Graham of narcissism.

      Admittedly though, they do know what it feels like to be self-involved with no ability to reflect on one’s thoughts or actions.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        77 days ago

        I love how every online liberal acts like they’re the Will Graham of narcissism.

        michael-laugh and every chud wants to be like the great Hannibal Lector! They deserve each other

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      147 days ago

      she grabbed him by the pussy

      Libs love when they get to use refetences to SA and homophobia (heh Trump is le gay for Putin). They believe in nothing

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      77 days ago

      It’s been over a decade since Trump started gaining momentum in federal politics. It’s been even longer since the Tea Party movement. Conservatives have zero shame. The hypocrisy is the point. They are bullies who do not care about facts or data. They only care about winning and hurting people they don’t like.

      My point is: no matter what names you call him, no matter how much of a moron he acts, Trump does not give a shit. He won’t debate anyone again? He’s afraid of Harris and won’t use her name? Motherfucker what reality have you been living in for the last 12 years? Liberals either do not understand how conservatives operate or they are in full-blown copium mode.

    • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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      7 days ago

      He’s probably still going to win lmao.

      Also you know you’re dealing with turbolibs when they start breaking out words like “fuckface”.

        • ComradeSpahija [they/them]
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          27 days ago

          I have bet a box of chocolates on a Trump victory in 2020; I don’t want to lose any more chocolates. This is the extent of my thoughts on the election (I am not a Burgerlandian)

      • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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        37 days ago

        He’s probably still going to win lmao.

        I agree, and I honestly thought he did better than she did in the debate.

        He was sleepy at first but then charged up and she didn’t have the same dominance.

        • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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          77 days ago

          I think more people in America have Trump’s brand of insanity over Kamala’s smugness. Libs are really overconfident just because they removed the 900 year old ghoul from the ticket.

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    I take it our significantly sized well-moisturized gentleman is trying to pass this off more as a “gg no re” move.

    I hate batting for Harris, but it’s legit not fair that chuds are allowed to refuse debates and still look good but not the other way around.