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    The stupid part is not that he said this

    The stupid part is that a good percentage of a large powerful country like the United States allows and accepts a political leader like this to speak for them.

    Turnip isn’t the idiot

    Everyone else is for listening to him and keeping him in a position of power

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      Except the majority doesn’t want this moron. Yes, though, I do agree with your sentiment generally

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        The fact that anything more than a vanishingly-small minority wants him is an absolute catastrophe and an incredibly damning indictment of American society in and of itself. Trump’s nonsensical babbling is literally beyond “schizophrenic homeless dude on the street corner with a ‘the end is nigh’ sign”-level gibberish.

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          People keep singling America out here as if right wing fascism hasn’t been on the rise everywhere.

          It’s not damning of American society it’s damning of humanity in general.

          When things get tough a large portion decides to dig their heels in the ground and act like nothings wrong at all.

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      Buckle up, here in Australia, every couple of years a political party has the bright idea of damming water in Australia’s tropical north and pumping it across 1000km of desert to Australia’s farmland regions

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        I don’t know if you remember a couple years ago when they were finding barrels of bodies, guns, and other fun things in Lake Mead (near Vegas)? That was drying up because the river that feeds it has been getting diverted for farm use (and probably Nestlé, too). It’s a huge problem in California, as well. Whole ecosystems are disappearing due to damming and diverting of rivers and streams. It’s not at all sustainable

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      Who’s the bigger fool? The fool or the one who follows him?

      • Ben Kenobi
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    For someone in BC, hearing America talk about our water like this is kind of terrifying

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        That will be believable if he doesn’t win. The fact that it’s cloee is absolutely nuts to an outsider.

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          It’s only close because of our broken electoral process that gives land more influence than citizens. He didn’t even win the popular vote for his first term.

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            National polling has Kamala up by +6 at best. Seems like 44%+ of Americans those polled seem comfortable and supportive of Trump. The fact it is that close at a national level, with all Haitians eating cats rhetoric, still seems insane to an outsider.

            Edit: Updated to appease those saying 44%+ of those polled who say they support Trump is not an accurate reflection of Americans at-large. For reference, Trump won 46.1% of the popular vote in 2016 and 46.8% of the popular vote in 2020.

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              It’s not 44 percent of Americans. It’s 44 percent of the people poled. I can guarantee that number is skewed because a ton of left leaning people wouldn’t bother wasting their time not getting paid to answer some pole. I know my friends and I are in that boat.

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                It’s 44% of all those people polled who are registered voters.

                It seems insane to us “insiders” too.

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                Don’t pollsters account for this? There’s a reason why polling still exists and is talked about, the final results do reflect reality to some degree.

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                The point is, anything more than negligible is fucking nuts!

                Even if it’s 44% of just idiot luddite conservatives, that’s still 44% of idiot luddite conservatives too many!

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                  Wait until you find out that 30-40% of Americans believe god magicked the universe into being as is less than 10k years ago and fossils are from noahs flood in which he saved 2 of every animal in a boat the size of texas.

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              Hilary was polling at roughly the same numbers as close as two weeks before that election he won back in 2016, if I remember correctly. It was looking like a clean sweep for her, and it was anything but. So don’t get comfortable yet.

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              Most polls are performed by calling landlines. The majority of people with landlines are elderly or own businesses.

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                There is no way the pollsters don’t know this and account for it

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            He’s got 47% of the popular vote last election. Over 74 million Americans voted for him. That’s 74 million too much.

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          The fact that it’s close shows that there is a problem with our voting populace.

          Rarely do more than 40% of eligible voters turn out for an election. On top of that, the Electoral College - our representative voting body - can cause the popular vote to be overturned in favor of the representative vote - Al Gore in 2000, Trump in 2016 are examples. Relative to this, in order to win, Democrats have to be polling at 6 to 9% above the Republicans to be a real contender.

          The day a Republican loses via Electoral College but wins the popular vote is the day this will change. Frankly, though, it’s almost impossible for that to happen due to the way the EC distributes votes to the less populated states.

          Fuck our rigged system and fuck this orange baboon.

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            There’s also the cheating.

            Gerrymandering out the wazoo, purging voter rolls, closing polling stations, literally taking away a ballot box as a photo op, passing insane “election ‘integrity’ commission” laws that upend everything else - and that doesn’t account for voter intimidation and outright straight-up fraud that can happen.

            All that stuff is easy to do when you’re already in power. And wrong.

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            Actually without the electoral college there wouldn’t have been a republican president in the last 32 years.

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            They wouldn’t be swing states if everyone could/did vote. Look at the typical voting percentage, it’s very sad.

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            Trump is a criminal, a fascist, a literal traitor twice over (Jan 6 + loyalty to Putin over America), and fucking senile. Anything less than 99% unfavorable is ridiculous!

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          It’s absolutely nuts to a lot of insiders here too. I can’t imagine a worse candidate, yet about 1/3 of the country seems to think that the choice in this election is a no-brainer, but in the exact opposite way that you would expect. The war on education led us here.

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          Our system has a vital flaw. The electoral college. It was a necessity at one point given the technology of the time it was adopted, but now it is a relic and needs to go away.

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        Yep. Never once has Trump exceeded >=50% of votes or even approval rating.

        Don’t you just love our slave era Electoral College…?

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          He still got 63 million votes in 2016 (46.1%) and 74 million in 2020 (46.8%). More people voted for trump even after that disaster of a presidency.

          Even though he never got over 50%, 74 million is still way too much for anyone to be comfortable with. It clearly indicates that something is wrong with many Americans.

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            It clearly indicates that something is wrong with many Americans.

            Sadly I think it indicates systemic failures and Americans are the effect and much less the cause.

            What I mean is that a combination of:

            • Electoral college & Money in Politics
            • Diminishing education standards (e.g., critical-thinking skills, civics, US History)
            • “News” media-entertainment that legally spreads disinformation (combined with foreign operatives).

            … All culminates in a society that is very easily duped. I talk to Trump supporters all the time and while sure many are simply greedy psychopaths… Many are also just “nice, but kinda dumb” in that they have no capacity to parse fact from fiction and so are easily-grifted targets for lies and choir-preaching (sometimes quite literally from Sunday church).

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              Don’t forget microplastics in the brain.

              I’m worried that’s actually going to turn out to be a thing.

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                Oh for sure. No doubt does Lead exposure (firing ammunition elevates levels), boomer-era leaded gasoline (and modern aircraft), paint, etc. + Traumatic Brain Injuries (CTE) from football + Substance abuse —namely alcohol play a part. Microplastics may very well be the next thing…

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            74 million is still way too much for anyone to be comfortable with. It clearly indicates that something is wrong with many Americans.

            To put a finer point in it, even just one million is way too much! The fact that 22% of the total population is suffering some sort of mass delusion and is in cult-like thrall to a demented fascist is unfathomably catastrophic.

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        He most definitely does not speak for us, but I share your pain that he has a following as large as it is. Years of unchecked indoctrination and the dismantling of the public schools and human nature giving is the authoritarian personality (which seems to be about 30% of people everywhere)

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      Except there isn’t even a way to get water from BC to LA. They’d be better off getting it from the Great Lakes, at least they wouldn’t have to build a pipeline through thousands of miles of mountains.

      He’s a fucking idiot. Gravity confuses him.

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        I’m sorry, are you saying that a pipeline from the great lakes to Los Angeles would have to go through less mountains than from British Columbia?

        * gestures vaguely at the entire mountain west *

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          Huh. For some reason I thought you could go around the south end without hitting too much, but yah, it’s probably easier to go down the central plateau.

          Ah well, guess BC is fucked.

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            Yeah you could probably find a path through New Mexico and Arizona that’s not too mountainous, like along I-10.

            But really where the US “needs” more water is where all the farms are. The cities don’t use much in comparison. It’s just a lot in a small area compared to the farms distributed in the big valleys.

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        Not just an idiot - he’s demented as well! And let’s not forget he’s a sociopath, a rapist, a fraud, a colluder, a seditionist - oh so many things.

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        That would be one huge faucet to take water from Ontario to Southern California …. Plus it would be tough getting around the Great Lakes

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    This dipshit is the most accurate representative conservatives could come up with. He’s been re-affirmed as their most accurate representative time and time again over the last decade.

    This moron is who conservatives are, and they are proud of it. Remember this when you talk to conservatives in your daily life. They are as profoundly unintelligent as they are evil.

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      Conservatives like him because he’s racist.

      That’s it. It doesn’t matter.to them if he doesn’t know how rain works. They don’t care if he couldn’t tell you how hurricanes travel.

      All they care about is that he hates immigrants.

      That’s it.

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        Now, now. To his rich backers, it’s not the racism so much as maintaining the status quo of them not getting taxed.

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      he’s not the most ‘accurate’. He can just get people to agree with him. He says everything with 110% confidence. The thing is, he always needs an enemy so people don’t realize he’s an idiot. Anything pointing out hes not logical is “what the liberals want you to think”. He gets people against the Immigrants, the Haitians, etc.

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      Imagine the intelligence of the people who believe in him. Then realize that’s a large portion of the voting population.

      Last step: cry.

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    That he even has a good chance in hell of winning shows how far gone this country is.

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    We really need to mark if Trump memes are real or made up. I hadn’t heard that he said this, but I can totally believe it. I just don’t have time to fact check every meme to know if I should be laughing or terrified that there’s a potential or former leader who believes stuff like this.

    Granted, both options are valid with Trump.

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        Oh, he’s making a metaphor.

        OK it takes a day to open the dams and for water to travel.

        Wait, the faucet is as big as that wall? He’s talking about an actual faucet.

        I’m out.

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        I kept scrolling in Lemmy, saw a post in politics talking about it, but thanks. I can’t say I’m surprised, but I’m amazed that people are willing to vote for someone so obviously stupid. I understand there’s a certain element of anti-intellectualism, but this is gradeschool knowledge we’re talking about.

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    The depths of his stupidity and the continual display of his complete lack of knowledge or curiosity about how anything works or ever could work makes me so irritated with his immovable, enabling moronic “base”.

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    So you’re telling me:

    There’s a giant pipe that runs all the way from Canada to Los Angeles, with a massive valve that takes a day to turn. Its current configuration is set to dump all of that water into the Pacific. To solve the water crisis we merely need to spend a day to turn this massive valve, the size of that building behind you, the other way so that the water goes to Los Angeles instead?

    Truly very stable genius stuff here.

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      Hes talking about the mile wide Columbia river, which meanders through Canada, Washington and Northern Oregon. It’s basically on the border of Washington and Oregon. At no point does it even get close to touching California, much less LA, which is in southern California.

      To do this would be one the most gigantic and intense infrastructure projects our country has ever undertaken, which would take decade’s at an unimaginable cost. Not to mention the drastic shift in the ecosystem of 3 states as that river is “drained” south instead of to the ocean.

      He lists this as “a big valve you just turn.” Absolute moron.

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        He’s got to be the most extreme example of Dunning-Kruger effect out there.

        Thinks he’s a certified genius, meanwhile all his handlers have to break down concepts for him in such simplistic terms, he ends up literally thinking injecting bleach or putting powerful UV light inside the body are the solutions to COVID, or raking a forest is an actual solution to preventing widespread wildfires.

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        He lists this as “a big valve you just turn.”

        Even stupider than that he calls it a fucking faucet. Facepalm

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        You give him way too much credit. I doubt he even knows the Columbia River exists. He just says random shit.

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    whenever he talks nonsense like this I think it’s because someone on his staff tried to explain something as they would to a toddler and he was barely listening so he repeats 5% of the words that grabbed his attention and mad libs the rest.

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    He’s a child playing pretend. Take this quote and imagine it’s from a 10 year old kid that then goes on to explain how their favorite superhero can breathe in space.

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      Like he said, he hasn’t changed much since he was 5. But it’s not entirely on him: when my daughter says something like that, I play along for a bit but afterwards I explain to her why it is impossible. When you’re constantly surrounded by sycophants, there’s no one to call your bullshit out and soon you’re convinced you’re the smartest person alive.

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        Oh absolutely! He’s a perfect example of what a person becomes when they have never had to deal with the consequences of their actions.

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      See? Even this cow has a better grasp of the English language than trump. “Cows_are_underrated” don’t think I didn’t see through your pro-bovine propaganda.

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      Basically, he’s talking about rerouting the water coming from the Rockies that go into the Pacific and moving it into the drought ridden bits of California… I think.

      He’s doing this with the phrasing you’d use to explain how the water cycle works to a toddler, mind you. So, if that’s how he’s trying to explain it to adults, that would suggest it’s the only way he can understand it.