I used to be like these types, and then I realized a lot of leftists, or more specifically Marxists base their entire political ideology off of theory that’s like 200 years old. Marx was writing at the peak of the Industrial Revolution probably when capitalism was in its most grotesque form (child labour, no regulations etc.) there’s no way in hell Marx could have ever imagined the complex world we live in today.
And also evolution is false because On the Origin of Species was written 200 years ago and there’s no way Darwin could’ve accounted for all the complexities the molecular biology revolution revealed in trait heritability.
Also why do liberals like to pretend their own theory doesn’t predate Marx by decades or centuries. Marx was literally building on top of existing liberal theory
They have guys like Hobbes, who died in 1679. They’ll regularly quote Plato or Aristotle too. Ask them what western society is based on and they’ll start saying nerd shit about the Manga Carta or ancient Rome. Liberals are so unserious
Using Salic Law to own the Marxists on the battlefield of ideas
God can you imagine if we lived in a hellishly cruel and exploitative world of industrial genocides, child labor and deregulation, like in the dirty stinky past? Then those communists might have a point, haha
Once I had someone try to refuse communism with something like “Marx was writing at a time where everything was made in factories. Times have changed.”
ok which star trek replicator did your clothes come from mr liberal
You mean to tell me that the people making all commodities aren’t making $300k/yr and working from home with their output coordinated through a series of gig economy apps? I don’t know about that, sounds pretty old fashioned.
Nonono neoliberalism fixed all that, look at the global extreme poverty graph, the line is going down! (Please don’t look at what happens when you take China out).
You should post what happens to !agitprop@hexbear.net
There’s probably a whole effortpost to be done on the sketchiness that is global extreme poverty headcount measurement. I’ll have to add it to my to do list after visualizing per-capita greenhouse gas emissions.
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they’re re-legalizing child labor in some US states, and finding illegal child labor in others. capitalism is oopsie daisy still in its most grotesque form.
I started a podcast about end of history nostalgia and I kind of want to use prolonged vampire euphoria at least once, you mind?
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the Pythagorean theorum is outdated because the ancient Greeks would have fainted in terror at the sight of a protractor
It’s wild how the people who approach capitalism like it’s a religion are able to sort of just state between the lines that there isn’t child labor or how there supposedly are functioning regulations in global capitalism today. Completely ignoring the exploitation their neoliberal world order requires to maintain itself.
It’s not that complex, they are calling it complex the same way they call the Middle East complex. Understanding it would require engaging with something that takes some work. And if we ask a lib if a lib will “lib or not to lib”, the lib will always lib. Because it takes zero effort to keep on libbing.
Also child labor is still a thing in burgerland
These are probably the same people that smugly go "uhm whatabout Uighur slave labour? :smuglord: what about Muslims enslaving people? Heh didn’t think so, tankie :smuglord: "
Damn thats crazy how i don’t buy stuff produced under the command of capitalists anymore, its a very different system cause they got flatscreens. Interestingly they only produce stuff that brings them profit, another mystery why they do that
just different i guess.If someone were to say this about their beloved constitution… And why are they acting like we aren’t facing climate crisis and potential overshoot?
Abruptly stand up and challenge the speaker to a debate. Your opening statement should be a 15-minute monologue that invokes your IQ, your depth of knowledge of Milton Friedman’s literature, and your immunity to simple emotional appeals. Leave the ball in their court. But they’ll simply be too stunned to respond with anything but silence and awe. They’ll concede, and you will likely get a standing ovation and a few phone numbers.
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this has to be satire right? the invoking iq part cant be serious
The entire post is tagged as a meme.
Doing the John Galt speech irl and getting spitballs fired at you the entire time
https://archive.is/wip/dN7Lk Fresh archive of what needs to be a site tagline:
I just attended a Marxist lecture for extra credit and had to sit there while the guest condoned not voting, claimed Obama didn’t end the war, and called the 2009 loans bailouts. Please make me feel better before I puke.
I’m not joking my more immediate coping mechanism was the catering provided so I had a lot of cookies.
the cookie catering is socialism, it’s right there!
I just went to a lecture where the lecturer told me a bunch of true things I don’t like and now I’m shaking and crying uncontrollably
You did it! You broke down CHUDs to their bare essentials!
One of the top comments is telling OP to lie about their politics to sleep with people
They really do like Obama.
It often doesn’t work because they think idpol is all they need to be correct on and can’t be fucked to read enough theory so that they can bullshit through it
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Honestly I’d argue being open to feedback is the primary requirement to succeeding at…well most anything long-term. So it’s not exactly a small difference
i think people of almost every political position like to flatter themselves by saying they’re uniquely receptive to feedback and new information and therefore a superior critical thinker. like, saying it does not make it so.
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This is a thread about needing a coping mechanism because someone told them two factual statements about the Obama administration that they didn’t like. We definitely get ahead of ourselves about this stuff too but NL is just page after page of
What war did Obama end/not end?
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I imagine they’re talking about Iraq? Which Obama eventually pulled out of past the timetable Bush set. And only after many successive parliamentary votes by the Iraqi people for the Americans to leave. And then during his second term it collapsed into another civil war and Obama went back to Iraq.
“The.” Oh you don’t know which war was “the”? Shame. Sounds like someone hasn’t been keeping up with their news.
Obviously, “the” war is the one most prominently covered by US media. The other ones are only sparkling wars.
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Vietnam.
That lecturer was actually me.
They had to see a homeless person?
“They insulted Obama. OBAMA. please make me feel better and coddle my insecurities, reaffirm my biases plesae”
Actual adult children. neophyte brainage. how are these people real
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I’m glad I did kickboxing as a teen, the experience of having to keep a neutral face after getting beaten up in front of a crowd that includes your parents will humble a person.
Users of that subreddit would better serve the planet as fertiliser.
How is Dune like scripture to these people? I don’t get it.
I think it’s an in joke satirizing leftists, but I really don’t know
Oh ok. Seems pretty unserious because it makes no sense, but I suppose that fits too.
also curious
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