Michael Flynn, the convicted felon and russian asset? That Michael Flynn?
I have a picture of him right here if anyone forgot who he was. Probably just a coincidence Jill Stein is also in this photo.
I always thought this photo reminded me of the café scene in Inglorious Basterds.
A veritable who’s who of real life horror.
FYI, that photo is not as powerful evidence as you think it is.
Okay. Defend it.
I’m not a stein fan, and I get the stein bashing because fuck Trump, so I only point this out because using this to bash her is not the most powerful argument you can make,because it’s thin evidence that would never hold up in court… but let’s bash her on actual things, I’m all for that.
if you look up the details, you can easily find: Stein “attended at her own expense to spread a message of peace and diplomacy” and gave a speech in Moscow “in which she criticized the excessive militarism of both Vladimir Putin and U.S. leaders.”
The Senate Intelligence Committee later investigated the trip and found no wrongdoing whatsoever.
Speaking to The Intercept in 2017, she said the notion that it was an “intimate roundtable” was “mythology,” and that Putin and his associates “weren’t at the table for very long.” Stein said that “nobody introduced anybody to anybody” and that she “didn’t hear any words exchanged between English speakers and Russians” due to the lack of a translator.
Stein said that Putin had appeared to make a speech and left immediately after. “Nobody cared to make introductions. This wasn’t intended to be a discussion of any sort,”
Could be all lies, etc. but it’s cheap and not substantial evidence in any way. I mean, a picture at a dinner table doesn’t automatically mean anything, no matter how many strings you use to connect all the pictures in your CSI montage.
Feel free to back up your point. I’m waiting…
We’re still patiently waiting for your defense.
You really think being photographed with someone is damning evidence? No offense, but that’s /r/conspiracy levels of stupid.
It’s stupid if you ignore the context of why people would have a problem with it, Taco. Stein isn’t a world leader, she’s a civilian. There is no good reason for her to be having dinner with Vladimir Putin, the leader of an adversarial country, especially while also accompanied by a known traitor to America and several Russians affiliated with Putin. It’s one thing for world leaders to meet one another, it’s entirely different when it’s a civilian. Especially a civilian whose actions every 4 years just so happen to be beneficial for Putin.
You still haven’t explained why it’s okay for Stein to be having dinner with Michael Flynn and Vladimir Putin.
It’s stupid if you ignore the context of why people would have a problem with it, Taco.
I’m not ignoring any context. It was a picture provided with no context.
The context you’ve now provided “There is no good reason for her to be having dinner with Vladimir Putin,” is stated as if it is a priori, but it’s not.
And that seems to be your whole point: it’s damning because she shouldn’t have been there, because I say it’s damning that she is there. It’s circular. The reality is that because you can’t explain it, it’s suspicious, not damning. And I agree with that. It should raise suspicions. You’re confusing your suspicion with knowing something.
You still haven’t explained why it’s okay for Stein to be having dinner with Michael Flynn and Vladimir Putin.
That’s not how it works. You’re the one claiming something nefarious. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying the evidence provided of your claim is “r/conspiracy levels of stupid” as it’s one of their favorite pieces of non-evidence.
People clap like seals when they see the “Jill Stein was seated with Putin” picture, but lose their fucking minds whenever someone posts
And don’t you dare ask where Kamala’s getting her money.
Inside Kamala Harris’ Reenergized Web of Silicon Valley Investors, Billionaires and Power Brokers
You’re simply not allowed to talk about the congealing mass of neocons and techbros that surround the Democratic Party. Because that might hurt their electoral chances. And winning is literally all that matters, even if it means bringing in the exact same posse of crooks, hawks, and freaks that surrounded Trump during his first four years in office.
I don’t recognize who that is, so my mind isn’t lost yet
He is spewing this bile and still being paid with US tax dollars. America is dead.
I mean, so is Trump, but some how people are planning on voting for him.
This guy belongs in jail.
Honestly it baffles me how he’s not been charged with something that puts him away for a long damn time. He’s like, overtly traitorous. It’s not ambiguous. It’s not a grey area.
What I mean is that he’s continued to do traitorous shit since being pardoned.
Also, the “fuck you, official act” defense is now a thing, so Biden could totally just personally off him, since he’s very clearly a domestic enemy, and defending the republic enemies foreign and domestic is literally in the oath of office.
Can we just stop with the “Democrats should just murder Republicans since the SC said Trump can do it” bullshit.
If you disagree with it, why the fuck are you guys constantly trying to further legitimize it?
Stop acting like once we do that it’s just going to be smooth sailing instead of a giant cesspool of global instability.
The meme is dead. It’s done.
Malicious compliance needs to be used FAR more often in the context of how deeply corrupt and blatantly partisan the Supreme Court has become. That’s the underlying gist of my point.
if you become them, you don’t win, y’all win.
You’re right, the satanic temple has never been successful at eliminating religious favor from government policy by overtly using religious law to do something shocking.
Why not also 6/9th of the court
I have no doubt. Let’s keep those gates closed.
Vote Gates Of Hell 2024.
During his first term he just cracked the gates of hell open a little and we had sky-rocketing national debt and over a million covid deaths. Next time he will fling them wide open guaranteeing chaos and the deaths of millions. Listen to him. Believe him on this.
Putin must be giddy that his plan for the destruction of the U.S. might come together.Flynn, should forced back into active duty, stripped of rank, all benefits yanked, court martialed and thrown into Ft. Leavenworth. The mother fucker is a traitor and take Bannon too.
“What your sentiment is about is accountability,” said Flynn, adding that the Founding Fathers had a similar priority.
“I definitely believe we need accountability,” he said.
“Your question went into some other areas,” Flynn added with a laugh, before concluding: “I think a lot of people actually think like you do, and I think that that’s your right and our privilege. … There’s a way to get after this, but we have to win first.”
Uh oh…
George Washington would shoot Flynn in the face.
Theodore Roosevelt would rip off his arms and beat him to death with them.
After trampling Trump with a moose.
Is it bad if I want Flynn to be Mike Johnson’s accountability partner after reading that?
Accountabili-buddy!
That we have to worry about the xtian taliban getting power via dementia donnie…in 2024.
We are talking about terrorism here. Why do all these old fucks want life to be miserable for everyone else? Is it because they think they are at the end of of their lives?
No, it’s because they’ve been miserable their entire lives despite having the world handed to them on a gold-colored platter.
Suffering is a core part of the conservative philosophy. Conservatives despise the idea that life can be easier, despite other countries showing us how to do these things.
Affordable higher education, universal healthcare, gun control, robust social safety nets, worker protections… of 31 developed nations, only the U.S. lacks these things. This is 100% because of conservatives.
Nothing good in the history of mankind has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all. It is a plague of misery, oppression and death that is long overdue for a cure.
Suffering is a core part of the conservative philosophy. Conservatives despise the idea that life can be easier, despite other countries showing us how to do these things.
Suffering for those they disagree with. Hard lives for those they dislike, while conservatives pay lip service to their hardships and buy off their problems with indulgences.
Republicans remind me of the Krohn’s disease med Skyrizi. “Control means everything to me”
It’s 100% because of thevery wealthy owning all three branches of government.
Any of you anti-gun people have second thoughts hearing shit like this?
The gun people are expecting the guns to be pointed at the libs. They’re all for it.
They are absolutely clueless that any dictator strips guns from people because they can’t bear any threat.
I am gun people…I’m not point my shit at Americans.
The US is spending $1.7T over the next thirty years to completely overhaul its nuclear arsenal.
But don’t worry, I’ve got a Beretta in my holster and a shotgun under the bed.
You forget about Vietnam? Isis is also kicking around still too which you have to know about seeing how recent that one was.
It’s not worth the argument. They won’t understand.
I’m mostly in favor of gun ownership, but unless I’m allowed to own RPGs, bombs, and other similar equipment then I’m not going to be able to do much against the military with it. Gun ownership is for self-defense, not fighting the military like so many right wing nuts dream about. The only real option if fighting the military happens is aid from outside or taking the military’s equipment. Both of these do not require prior ownership of weapons. Alternatively, knowledge of bomb making would be another tool, and does not require prior ownership, though this knowledge is controlled already and not defended by typical gun-rights organizations.
Everyone looks at extremes.
Yeah, a populace armed with AR-15s and Glocks can’t fight bombers, but when a government reaches the point where bombers are being used against the population you’ll also have a military split, so there will be heavy equipment on both sides.
Imagine something smaller in scale, like if the governor of Texas decided to start execution of liberals while Trump was President. Trump probably wouldn’t directly take part, but also wouldn’t send in the military to stop the governor.
That’s where small arms for civilians becomes relevant.
They’re also relevant because they’re distributed. With 100 million+ armed households, there’s no safe way to be a tyrant.
Trump was almost killed by 1 person who planned poorly. If there were millions of armed people moved to that level of violence it would be impossible to govern without committing the kind of atrocity that would cause a military split/coup.
If you haven’t been targeted by the police for running your mouth at them then who are you lecturing exactly ?
Why are you attacking your allies ? Not everyone should have a fucking gun, mate.
I’m about winning. We have to win. And these people are already up to no good. So, we gotta win first. We win, and then, “Katy, bar the door.” OK? Believe me: The gates of hell — my hell — will be unleashed.
As my MSNBC colleague Steve Benen just explained, Trump is now openly floating the idea of deploying the military against his critics if he’s elected. It’s easy to imagine Flynn being part of that violent plan.
The guy who was all-in on Qanon, who had his family take whatever stupid pledge on video, who asked why we couldn’t “do that here” when Myanmar’s army stole their government, wants to be in charge. Frightening stuff.
Heaven and hell needing gates is worrying. I suspect their purpose is containment.
Flynn should reinstated, stripped of rank, court martialed and thrown into Ft. Leavenworth. He is a traitor and a POS.
What a jerk
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