• TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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    I don’t care for the moderation policies of .ml but I don’t see what shitposting about it all the time without the context that they will ban you for “pro capitalist” posts does other than split the fediverse and make users who don’t even know what your problem is act defensive

    The “average .ml poster”/“average .world poster” discourse is worn out.

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      .world is basically Reddit. They want Lemmy to be Reddit, and censor Lemmy as if it is Reddit.

      If you make a negative post about .world it will get removed by their mods but they never apply their rule to .ml

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          This this is on hexbear via ml, here’s a whole comment thread complaining about neoliberal brainworms re: welfare in China and a bunch of people talking about how disappointing the fiscal conservatism is, one person pointing out that this type of wealth inequality is ultimately the result of government policy.

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        And this is exactly why .ml is so hated. That comment is pure .ml propaganda.

        I have seen tons more .ml posts where mods go rampage mode and remove anything criticizing Communism, Russia, China, authoritarian regimes, their genocides, .ml itself, their mods, hate on US or any western nation, brigading …

        .ml stands for Marxist Leninist, and they make sure you know it.

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      The admins and mods of .ml are the biggest Tankies of Lemmy, they refuse to admit that China is an authoritarian dictatorship that has committed recent genocide and constantly lick Putins boot saying things like Russia was justified in invading Ukraine unprovoked

      !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works though you’ll need to view through another instance because .ml blocks this community specifically

      Or !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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        Probably should be noted those communities are filled with the brigading efforts of like two chronically obsessed people who use alternate accounts to stir up shit or screenshot posts they often write themselves.

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            Believe it or not, there’s nothing saying a communist country needs to be a one party dictatorship. It would be perfectly achievable though democracy if the majority of the population actually wanted to take collective responsibility for the country and wanted people to be treated fairly. The reason communist dictatorships fail is because they are dictatorships, not because they are communist.

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              Marx had very little to say about the governing structure of communist governments, but did actually describe socialism as a ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’.

              What you’re taking issue with is how marxism was later applied by various political projects, but they all still fall under the umbrella term of Marxism.

              Put another way: all Marxist-lenninists are Marxist but not all Marxists are Marxist-lenninists

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      OP makes these posts on around a monthly basis, they have a pattern of posting these instance-drama related posts fairly regularly.

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    The weekly .world feud post right on time.

    Edit: for someone who doesn’t like .ml so much, why do you browse it enough to repost content from it? No worries comrade, they are our memes. Share away.

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      Considering most .world users are (former) Reddit users, it makes sense they’d get easily spooked by *insert thunder noises and ghost sounds:

      MARXISM! UuUuHh!!

      That platform has turned quite to the right with their moderation and acceptance

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        Nobody is spooked by anything. Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology and so shit on the place where its ideas are traded the most as they’re trading trash opinions.

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          Nobody is spooked by anything.

          This is just purely and demonstrably false. Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which “Leftists/Communists” are used as a scare tactic.

          Many (like me) have the opinion that Marxism is a trash ideology

          I see. What specific criticisms do you have for Marxism then?

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            Not only it is wrong from a historical point of view, but it also ignores current political conversations in which “Leftists/Communists” are used as a scare tactic.

            Fair enough, i guess i also “fear” communism in a sense and believe that humanity must work to prevent ourselves from reaching such a state (at least the sort that is typical of it) but i don’t think that’s where much of the criticism on Lemmy stems from

            I have a lot of criticisms, but I don’t currently have the energy for a long debate. However, my main criticism is that Marxism is unnecessary as many good things have been achieved and can be achieved under a social democracy.

            There’s also the point on how Marxism is practically unachievable without collectivisation, which allows for the possibility of tyranny. Soft totalitarianism as i like to call it. It has gone wrong in the past and will probably continually do so.

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                I genuinely don’t. I have engaged in multiple debates about this stuff in the past though. I also outlined a couple of my criticisms, so if you would like to address those instead of trying to be snarky, that would be welcome

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                  I’ll just point out you called Marxism a trash ideology and then subsequently called it unnecessary because of an ideology that is almost inherently rooted in Marxism.

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              It’s also where a lot of the bigger subreddits set up shop during the API thing, and to an extent the “default option” when setting up an account.

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                Yeah I started there myself but quickly migrated. Tried to find an instance that wasn’t filled with ideological rat poison and also wasn’t the mass appeal one.

                I don’t think I see a lot of posts on lemm.ee though, but I think it’s fine?

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                  They consider themselves a general purpose instance, with minimal oversight or censorship, and I’ve had no issues so far. Either them or sh.itjust.works are the ones I’d choose.

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        Okay, so abiding by the law where your servers are hosted is being a Puppet.

        Go stir up some drama in 196. There at least you know what you are doing.

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          .world Admins and mods don’t follow the Dutch law. They clearly follow there personal biases and the I think that it’s okay if they where honest.

          Instead of saying we don’t like you talking about jury nullification. They say it isn’t allowed by law. Jury’s are not even a thing in the Netherlands. They say they follow the law, but they just follow a ideology and are lying about it.

          .ml admins and mods clearly have a personal bias and are honest about it. You can think it’s a shit take. But you know where they stand for. Like it or not.

          E: mods of communities don’t always follow there admins line of course. And there are shit mods on both instance

        • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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          Here’s a translation of the relevant Dutch law against violent speech:

          Article 137d: “He who publicly, orally, in writing or graphically, incites hatred against, discrimination of or violent action against person or belongings of people because of their race, their religion or their life philosophy, their gender, their heterosexual or homosexual orientation or their physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by imprisonment of no more than a year or a monetary penalty of the third category.”

          Is being a CEO a religion now?

          (Fun fact technically irrelevant to our discussion: being biphobic or aphobic is allowed in the Netherlands)

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            Your last point all depends whether we take the spirit of the law or the letter of the law… but perhaps there could be a non-Dutch higher court to decide any contentious points?

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    Likewise the same with .world. Aim for a smaller instances community if you can contribute.

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      Are you saying that The Netherlands is fascist, or the people hosting Lemmy.world? I don’t know about the latter, but regarding the former: The Netherlands has a multiparty system, in which the fascist right party you refer to, only got 37/150 seats. With it, it became the largest party in the government today, but it only represents roughly 25% of all voters. Therefore the majority of the country isn’t fascist, so I don’t see how your comment makes any sense.

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          It’s larger than I would like it to be, sure. But claiming a country is fascist based on 25% is just wrong. You would be right if it were the majority. Besides, if you look at the details you’ll see that many people used the far right as a protest vote (which I despise, but not the point). I doubt and perhaps hope those people aren’t actually fascist.

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    Yes, same for lemmy.world. If you want to post something niche and find a dead Lemmy.world community maybe consider first seeing if there’s one elsewhere to revive or even make yourself (assuming you’re registered somewhere else of course).

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      Yeah, I have no problem with Lemmy.world (I mean, my main is on here), but spreading comms amongst at least a few instances is better for the overall health of the Fediverse.

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        See nobody says this kinda thing about sh.

        More in line with your comment though I wish there was a way to specifically merge a few comms into a single feed just for viewing purposes. So if you wanted to you could merge two c/memes feeds from different instances. You’d either have to take the post button away from that view or make it prompt you to select one of them from a list though.

        Would also be cool to be able to export / share merger lists so if you trust someone’s opinion on which subs from a topic are worth following or go well together or even just want to migrate your own list you can do that too.

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            Yeah… your modlog history paints a different picture. Apparently, you seem to think the rules of lemmy don’t apply to you.

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                Dude… your comments are public. The removed comments are clear rule violations. I’m thinking either you seriously don’t think they apply to you, or you never read them.

                And just because something is in YPTB, it isn’t guaranteed to be correctly attributed. Note how many people in the comments disagree.

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                  Cool.

                  And just because you think something doesn’t count, doesn’t matter when everyone else does. And most of the comments agree too.

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      Glad you got that off your chest. Really nice of you to just plainly spell out you don’t respect how people choose to identify

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        Oh please DragonFucker is 100% a troll.

        You might as well start pretending 4Chan is a bunch of attack helicopters if you’re going to buy that dumbarsey.

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      What’s this about, sorry? Is this the thing with keeping chasers on here (which I personally don’t agree with)?

      EDIT: Ah, never mind. You are a bellend. Should have guessed since you are moaning about the instance full of trans people. Do one, gobshite.

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        It’s over having a community wide hard line on pronouns. Even if a suspected troll is using neo pronouns (or any pronouns frankly) that’s not a license to misgender them.

        The user that sparked the recent controversy (drag) has a history of being pretty volatile/offensive but that’s still no reason to compromise on neo pronouns.

        I for one would rather put up with someone ‘trolling’ while using neo pronouns (until the inevitable ban for saying something shitty) rather than tolerate anyone getting misgendered in a trans-inclusive space.

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          Fucking hell. Really? Thanks for telling me.

          If someone wants to use a less orthodox pronoun fucking let them. Drag might have a history of being a troll but refusing to use drag’s pronouns means that drag’s gender is conditional on them being well behaved. It turns the use of anyone’s pronouns into an act of “just being polite” or “humouring them”. Its a culture of gate keeping we cannot afford to perpetuate in the current climate of anti-trans hostility.

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    Worse yet, they also naively censor the r-word so if an .ml user types r*tardant it comes out as removedant

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      THEY WON’T LET ME SAY MY GODDAMNED SLURS FUCKING GODDAMNIT

      I’M A CERTIFIED RULES LAWYER I SHOULD GET TO SAY MY FUCKING SLURS

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          even Tom Scott filmed his video about the scunthrope problem in penistone because “there’s really no reason for anyone ever to go to scunthrope”.

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          One of my favourite football chants:

          “You cannot spell Scunthorpe without cunt, You cannot spell Scunthorpe without cunt, You cannot spell Scunthorpe, You cannot spell Scunthorpe, You cannot spell Scunthorpe without cunt”

          Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

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        That’s shitty. It effectively removes the ability to communicate in anything but English.

        E.g. some frequently used words that are non-slurs: fag (nordics, meaning class/course), retard (french train stations will display this when trains are delayed). Living in Norway, I have frequently been frustrated when MMOs wouldn’t let me talk to friends in my native language without censoring or even handing out bans.

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            Also, my American girlfriend insists on pronouncing the Dutch surname of new Liverpool manager like that.

            Granted, that IS pretty close to the correct pronunciation of “Slot” in Danish (which means castle or palace and is also the name of a cheap but potable beer), at least 🤷

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          The Spanish name Enrique can be diminutised to “Kike” (key-kay) but PlayStation network banned accounts with that name as the word in English is slur against Jews.

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          Exactly, I’ve even tested with setting my comment to French, exclusively speaking French within, and it’s still filtered.

          And that pissed off a couple people who just couldn’t believe my motivation was anything other than desire to say slurs.

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          I don’t know about the other Nordic countries, but here in Denmark, “fag” also means profession and is used as a colloquial term for many related groups and concepts.

          On a slightly related but hilarious to me note, “bad” being Danish for “bath” and a company refusing to change with the times to accommodate an increasingly international marketplace has resulted in one of the most successful mid tier bathroom design companies in the country still being called “Bad Design” 😄

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            The English word bad is based on the Old English word baeddel, which meant gay, intersex, or pedophile, and made no distinction between the three. So it’s basically a homophobic slur.

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              Brb, gotta cheerfully say “you’re so bad!” to the ole partner and give it a whole new meaning when being flirtatious.