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Regardless of whether you’re politically left or right, I feel like the hexbear crowd is just tremendously unfriendly. Even when I agree with them, I usually feel bad reading what they have to say. Being unwelcoming is not a good strategy for proliferating one’s politics.
Depends, if you’re a Communist or an Anarchist and aren’t being sectarian (except against, like, Gonzaloists that support Gonzalo and defend Pol Pot), it’s very friendly. By not allowing liberalism, it ends up stopping endless arguments between leftists and liberals before they can even start.
they will quite literally tear you up if you so much as do an outside think, i posted one comment, and got banned immediately.
hahaha, for those who like to play along, it’s always fun to check the moderation history of the user under the comment with the three dot menu when someone complains about bans. I actually lol’d when I saw the ban from lemmy.ml/c/chess.
Ok, some of these mod responses are gold:
Banned
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: Multiple reports of genocide denial and encouraging suicide. Having a bad day?
Removed Comment based by KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: useless troll is useless
Removed Comment i do your mom for fun by KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: duplicate, low effort, juvenile, rude and worst of all not funny
Am I taking crazy pills? Last I heard hexbear doesn’t even exist anymore.
Are yall so laser focused on feudposting you missed that piece of news?
Am I taking crazy pills? Last I heard hexbear doesn’t even exist anymore.
It’s wild how much a game of telephone happens even within what you’d expect to be the closest circle of association
Hexbear exists, the domain is changing names and federation is broken for now but posting is still happening on chapo.chat.
I had to check but hexbear currently redirects to chapo.chat so I assume they have the domain for now.
Which says a lot about the manufactured outrage. Nobody even has a clue what is going on over at hexbear, but somehow their Lemmy experience is ruined by it.
I had to check but hexbear currently redirects to chapo.chat so I assume they have the domain for now.
Not for me it doesn’t, I can access it fine.
Clear your cache, the Hexbear domain is up for auction and (as it has for days now) will redirect to chapo.chat, their old domain that they still-owned.
In the sense that Twitter doesn’t exist anymore, yes.
Check again, it’s right there.
Hmm, I was wondering why I didn’t see them (last I knew, my instance didn’t defederate them). What happened?
They forgot to renew their domain 😂
The former admins still have control of the domain and can’t be reached. Stop saying shit when you haven’t done any investigation.
hexbear
the wokes
Okay now that’s hilarious
This whole instance-tribalism seems very self-defeating to me. Why be decentralised if everyone ends up so boxed off that there are just a handful of isolated instance-clusters talking amongst themselves? It’s like how email (SMTP) is decentralised but the mega-hosts act like a cabal, gatekeeping so strongly (and virtually doing blocklist-by-default for unrecognised servers - even of good standing) ultimately capturing the user-base by undermining the decentralisation. Luckily with DKIM/SPF/DMARC/ARC/etc and stronger anti-trust regulations email seems to be slowly climbing back out of that hole. Unfortunately with all the banal tribalism it feels like much of the new Activitypub based tech users are willfully climbing into that same hole, without even being corralled there by mega-hosts.
You would think so. But .world cannot help themselves from slinging their shit over the fence.
Their mods remove posts critical of .world for “harassment” but gladly leave up blanket insults against instances more left wing than them.
Lemmy.world seem to be more middle-of-the-road on many things while Lemmy.ml and Hexbear seem pretty intolerant to me
I think it was on Lemmy.ml that I saw someone have their posts deleted allegedly for spreading US propaganda or some reason like that, when all they had said was that the war in Ukraine was started by Russia invading Ukraine in 2014 (I’m pretty sure this is factually true and Ukraine didn’t invade any of Russia until 2024)
.world has a Zionist rating website (mbfc) as their “allowed sources” list. Tolerance is very subjective.
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It’s always helpful when you “criticism of Zionism is antisemitism” types go mask off sooner rather than later.
pfft I didn’t bring up zionists. they did.
accurate name tho.
Anti-zionism is not Antisemitism. Zionism is not Judaism nor is it representative of Jewish people. Your conflation of the two is genuinely antisemitic.
Zionism is anti-Semitic at it’s core, it other-izes Jewish people, and justifies the violent settler colonialim of Israel as in the defense of all Jewish people, which only serves to further fuel genuine Antisemitism at the expense of Jewish people globally. Zionism is also an inherently fascist ideology. The ethnic cleansing of the native people of Palestine has always been fundamental since it’s inception as a colonialist movement. Adi Callai, an Israeli, does a great analysis of how Antisemitism has been weaponized by Zionism during its history.
For someone using a text based medium, one would think you would have better reading comprehension skills.
I picked this handle for one reason: idiots make exactly the kind of comment you just made and feel very clever for it. This helps separate the wheat from the chaff, showing who is worth taking seriously and who might find tasks like tying shoeslaces to be particularly vexing.
I recommend this brand, by the way: https://www.amazon.de/LaceHype-Shoelaces-shoelaces-childrens-Reflective/dp/B09W3XL6LV/
It’s wildly antisemetic to equate zionists with jews; you’re just doing blood libel with extra steps.
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What the fuck are you talking about? I told you to stop conflating Jewish people with Zionists, because Zionists are literally committing genocide and have specifically targeted children.
Their mods remove posts critical of .world for “harassment” but gladly leave up blanket insults against instances more left wing than them.
boy you have an entire conspiracy theory worked up already.
wow
It happened to me when I called out the moderators for censoring comments pointing out the role of the DNC in the genocide of Palestinians, so I’d say it isn’t wrong.
Btw to anybody who comes across this user is a .ml Tankie, so anything not a tankie is right-wing to them
And Tankies = Authoritarian “communists” so basically, they’re pro-CCP, pro-Russia/Putin and neither can do no wrong in their eyes or it’s just CIA propaganda.
Anything critical of either, no matter how factual, historical or deserving it is is swiftly removed under their favorite catch-all “Rule 1 bigotry” on .ml
I’m pretty sure if we’re excluding instances with troll farms or hosting illegal material, the map of Lemmy instances is still kind of a single amorphous blob, with nearly all connected instances being just 1 connection away from their blocked instances. These can’t be defined as isolated instance-clusters. Lemmy.world users seem to always know what hexbear users are up to because of their federated neighbors, lol.
Lemmy.world users seem to always know what hexbear users are up to because of their federated neighbors
Nah, they think they know what hexbear users are up to because random folk make shit up and nobody calls them on it, because they’re defederated.
I see you also know about PugJesus.
PJ is kind of interesting, in that being anti-communist is a massive part of their reason to be on the fediverse, as a mod for 2 anti-communist communities and a prolific anti-communist poster. They denounce the Black Panther Party for being “violent” and supporting AES, but will uphold the Nazi-aligned Hungarian revolt, where Jewish people and Communists had their doors marked and were being lynched, as an example of “real revolution against the Soviets.”
I once left a reasonable and non-hostile response to a post on tankiejerk and they removed it and permabanned me for being “tankie,” lol.
The stuff random folk “make up” perfectly aligns with the experiences I had before I blocked them, so I have no reason to call them on it.
People usually don’t see site wide bans on lemmy.ml in a very good light: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
Tribalism has always been a thing but seems to be having a big resurgence lately. i think when the state of the world makes people feel small they crave more validation from echo chambers.
I think communities similar to reddit and lemmy are doomed. The site was never the biggest issue, it was the people.
Tankies shit my pants.
You’re right, we should focus on Lemmy.ml instead.
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.
Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.
This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up.
That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
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They are not as extreme, but you cannot realistically have a civilized discussion on their servers. Unfortunately they are much more established with several big communities which are hesitant to move to more reasonable servers so while hexbear was an easy insta-ban for me and most other Lemmy users, we’re stuck individually blocking ml users for now.
But hopefully because of the idiotic choice of the ml domain, they will eventually go the way of hexbear.
They are not as extreme
IMO they’re just more subtle about it because they don’t want a larger call for defed to happen, I’m sure they all have alts on Hex/Grad where they let out their…“restraints”.
They’re very quick to deride .world as nothing but a “Reddit 2.0 CIA front propaganda machine” and yet won’t defed from it themselves…
Wasn’t the whole .ml domain an issue way back during the reddit migration too, cause its the domain for Mali? I remember it being an issue when I came over to Lemmy, which was back during that migration. When Reddit locked down its api and a bunch of redditors (me included) did a “blackout” to protest.
cause its the domain for Mali
Cyberspace colonialism.
Yes it was. That’s exactly what I was referring to.
How come nothing came of that?
I blocked the entire instance and I’m doing just fine.
I’m glad you’re using lemmy the way you want and not being weird and expecting the admission to block things for you. Take care, peace.
Don’t talk to me.
I did too but I still see the users. It just blocks all their communities.
That doesn’t really help retain newcomers any if we all just bury our heads in the sand
I mean, it’s better than nothing I guess
Please don’t
Why?
Their memes instance crashed and burned. Since then I don’t see the big deal.
I sure have lol
I’ve seen “hexbear” but have no idea what it is, so clearly it’s not ruining anything for me.
Hexbear, grad and .ml are the Tankie Triad, .world defed’s from Hex and grad because Hex is the worst, Grad is runner up. .ml tends to be more subtle about it and has largely avoided a more mass defederation movement like what happened with hex and grad
Cal xi winnie and see how sublte .ml are :D
LMAO tru tru, but unfortunately the tankie admins and mods of .ml are quick to enforce the subtlety by censoring (the irony for a group that is quick to accuse others of it lmao) those kinds of posts under their catch-all “RULE1”
.ml is not subtle, they just circlejerk within their sub a shit ton, rather than infesting other communities. Usually the idiots tend to congregate it seems.
It’s a Communist/Anarchist instance, Lemmy.world defederated from it before they had a chance to federate.
I think you are the target of this meme, sir/ma’am
Hexbear is also just straight up dead rn, can’t see their shit til they secure a new domain
Hexbear can’t federate but you can see their content at: https://chapo.chat/
Lol
Lol, the pro China, pro putin folks who let pedo-Don win the election are woke?
The only people who let Trump win the election are the democrats. We spent years telling them what they need to do to win, instead they chose to end covid protections, divert covid funds to the police, build Trump’s wall, facilitate genocide, and other extremely unpopular policy.
They knew these policies were unpopular among everyone who might vote democrat, they chose to do it anyway.
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hahahahaaa your genocide friends made it happen. Tonedeaf horrible people. you want people with a conscience to vote for genociders?
the palestiniens and the rest of world is owned.
Jeez AFAIK there is somewhat of a ceasefire and all Gaza was destroyed and 10000’s killed under Genocide Joe. And the world is a better place with the orange clown destroying the US imperialist from within. You’re completely ignorant. Let me guess, algerian-french uncle Tom?
Stupid, racist, arrogant and under-educated, no doubt you’re american.
You keep yelling at them to do what you want. But if you’re such a formidable power to influence the elections, you could’ve done it already, in a way that was clearly presented to you.
You didn’t.
That means that either you overestimate the number of people that think like you, or all of you don’t know or care how to participate in democracy.
Both of those options mean you know jack shit about what to do to win the elections, and can only yell on social media.
That by the way says nothing about the validity of your claims, you could be morally correct and advocate for objectively good things, but if they aren’t getting you in power, it doesn’t matter.you overestimate the number of people that think like you
It doesn’t matter how people think, left policy is overwhelmingly popular and republican policy is only popular with republicans!
How the hell are you arguing that the democrats did the right thing, when they lost. They chose policies that they knew would decrease turnout with their base to appeal to “moderate republicans”, and once again, the “moderate republicans” voted for republicans.
you know jack shit about what to do to win the elections, and can only yell on social media.
We’ve tried every thing in our power to influence the democrats. When we protest, they send police to silence us.
You had the choice between satan and a random jerk, you chose to abstain.
I live in SC, my vote had no effect on the outcome of the election. The only possible thing I could do to affect the outcome of the election was telling dems to stop doing things that decreased turnout, such as facilitating genocide and pretending to be powerless, and do things that would increase turnout such as legalizing cannabis, putting Trump in prison, facilitating women’s healthcare.
Instead the democrats called us antisemites and BlueMAGA dipshits like you assured everyone that the democrats could win by maintaining the course.
That didn’t happen. You should have been next to us screaming at the democrats to stop driving us over the cliff, but instead you criticize people who were literally powerless to affect the outcome of the election for not being silent as the democrats drove the bus off the cliff.
my vote had no effect
Yeah, but not for the reasons you think. It’s because you deeply don’t understand anything about how US government works and what plays to your elections. Simultaneously you claim that you know what strategy Democratic party should adopt to win.
I’m not american but, are the “democrates” and “BlueMaga” (now what the fuck is this??) in the room with us right now? Did you vote, really?
You have zero idea how popular progressive ideas among voters, because you motherfuchers don’t vote. Random polls means nothing if they aren’t followed by votes, and they aren’t.
Last time they run they were running much more conservative campaign with an old white dude woth much more conservative platform and they won. That’s also not the whoe story of course, but this explanation fit more precisely than yours.We’ve tried every thing in our power
Oh my. Have you tried voting for the candidate you like? Bernie lost popular vote (I repeat, popular vote) (I repeat again, popular vote) twice when he was nominating. Have you and your hoards of silent majority, tried sending a fucking mail twice in a decade?
Again, if you all did, that’s an indication that there is not enough of you and US is a conservative shithole where most of the people want monstrous policies.
If you didn’t, that means you aren’t citizens, and your opinion doesn’t matter for the purposes of the government, you’re children and should be treated as such.
I don’t know which is worse.Last time they run they were running much more conservative campaign
Biden barely scraped by the skin of his ass, and my experience phone-banking in 2020, half the voters I talked to thought Biden was for free healthcare, cannabis, defunding the police, freeing the ICE camps, and free college because he was the democratic candidate.
Meanwhile Kamala said the only thing that would be different from Biden’s administration is that she would appoint a republican to the cabinet and ran on building Trump’s wall. The dem messaging went right of 2020 on trans people, crime, foreign policy, economic policy.
The average voter is very low information when it comes to politics, but they know healthcare is too expensive, they know college is too expensive, they know locking migrants in cages is bad.
Left policy is popular because it materially improves people’s immediate conditions. It doesn’t matter whether someone has conservative ideas or not when their livelihood depends on a specific policy. When you weaken it or add a bunch of means-testing and complicated rules, your supporters will care less, and your opposition will continue to oppose you.
Maybe I’m misreading that link of yours, but it shows that four specific policies have popular support. It certainly doesn’t show that all of the Democrat Party policies have overwhelming support. The recent election proved that about as definitively as is possible in American election history.
LOL genocide party supporter still coping with losing
I’m now even american you idiot. I’m from one of the country your pedophile-president wants to annex lol.
Palestine thank you for letting bilionaires-nazis take the power! Now they lost their land and an ethical genocide is on the way but you and your friends will soon get the chance to go get a bigmac in gaza!!! How exiting for colonialist privilege white ass like you, writing from mom basement!!!
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C’est toi l’imbécile qui est incapable d’apprendre plus d’une langue… Moi j’en parlais déjà trois à dix ans. Oh, et ta maman a appelé, il n’y avait plus a captn crunch, elle à pris des frootloops.
Try being human.
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I mean, if bots are now claiming that putin is a POS dictator and that China doesn’t care about human rights, then LET THERE BE BOTS!!
Thanks Eglin airforce base
You really think a few thousand people on a website almost no one heard of is a serious cause of Donald Trump winning an election? You really lost the plot.
American elections are predetermined and fixed during a process they follow called redistricting where they spend millions of dollars redrawing the lines of the voting districts to ensure the results they want. What people do or say about the elections have no effect on them.
What I think is that your selfish privilege under-educated americans who are the stupidest people on the planet but believe to be the smartest. For the entire world, you and maga are exaclty the same stupid people, who are threatning the very survival of the specie. You chose a a nazi pedophile to own the libs, you will have the dictator you deserve, good luck lol.
This thread brought out a ton of tone police lol
Wait, what do you mean .World isn’t Federated???
With hexbear specifically
Ah, thank you.
Some people still aren’t clear on the whole “federated” concept. But lack of understanding has never stopped anyone from posting opinions.
World is federated, just not with absolute junk instances.
The point is that Lemmy.world defederated from Hexbear, so the complaints about Hexbear coming from Lemmy.world users frequently are based on second-hand information.
Don’t know what to tell you folks who keep constantly posting non-constructive conversations by just blaming everything on capitalism. No solutions other than offering communism, rioting, and constantly bitching. That gets old.
No solutions other than offering a solution.
You’re literally using a communist platform right now. Owned and run by “the workers”, and free to use.
Ok, comrad.
I got permabanned from Hexbear for simply denouncing ageism. Apparently not falling for the divisive labels they stick on every generation so they can blame each other is not tolerated.
90% of the time these assertions are BS, so evidence or it didn’t happen.
scroll through my post history sorting by hexbear lmao
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Wow, IDK who that other person is. Not only more attacks saying I’m a liar but also that I’m using an alt account.
Great mindset. I really liked Hexbear and still visit, it has great post and info. But if this is the tactics people defending it and not owning up to their mistakes/actions use it should be a surprise I got banned in the first place.
