The man just could not stop solving problems.
From the Newsweek article:
Civilization VI, or ‘Civ IV,’
Sophie! Don’t you know your Roman Numerals?
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CIV IV = 104 04
okay see I was in favor of what he did but his politics were kind of incoherent so I couldn’t jump on the ‘idolize this man’ train.
I guess now I gotta.
What was inconsistent?
From what I gather, if the allegations are true, then Luigi never claimed to be knowledgeable enough to have solutions but recognized general issues.
This would, presumably, absolve him of inconsistencies since he didn’t claim to be the arbiter of truth or an expert.
This is a genuine question btw, I’m realizing I don’t really know much about the manifest or his views beyond health insurance companies being evil. So I’m curious to hear what you mean.
Unless his lawyer has stated he wrote the manifesto, we can assume it was planted.
Innocent until proven guilty
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, doesn’t track for public opinion, it’s the whole opinion part, but yeah we should give him some benefit of the doubt, he did us a solid.
The manifesto was out there, but not entirely incongruent with his … was it a substack? I read it off archive.org and it was quite old
We don’t know that the manifestio was his, but I’d say he had enough other stuff out there to say his views wained toward strange.
That really just makes him an easy fall guy.
Like, affluent enough to have the free time, visibly disillusioned with the system, on pain management from a back injury, similar hoodie/ backpack style of dress day to day.
Like, this is a big enough problem that there is an incentive to pick a random person of interest out of a hat and fabricate some quick evidence to implicate. Was the gun found in the manifesto bag the same gun that shot the guy?
i’d like to say we’ll see how it goes, but honestly I don’t hold much hope for a fair trial.
I was under the impression that he was a right-leaning crypto bro that saw a bad CEO and “solved the problem”. I don’t think he even considered the material conditions of capitalism or the fact that we’re in a class war. I think he was close though. Kind of like becoming a lefty without actually talking to any lefties.
In the manifesto I saw he basically apologized to the FBI for causing all the trouble. Letting them know that he acted alone.
He definitely wasn’t the type of person I would imagine a CEO killer to be.
He is probably to young for that, but when bitcoin was first presented it was quite popular among leftist, who hoped it would destroy the dollar hegemony.
In the manifesto I saw he basically apologized to the FBI for causing all the trouble.
That felt very out of place imho
Ehh, maybe… I figure if it was a plant I would expect it to say something like “I trust the FBI to do the right thing” or “Law enforcement is good”.
We likely won’t know for a while if at all.
other comment got it pretty much right. not BAD, but, like, ‘inventing communism from first principles via jordan peterson, and only sort of halfway there’ weridness.
Free Luigi
… I legit know folks at firaxis, I didn’t know this.
I’m gonna ask if it’s true lmaoo
It says he worked an an intern and it was several years ago. I know the meme is fun, but I highly doubt that if he were not under arrest that he’d have been working on Civ 7 UI.
But that’s the problem. He fixed the bugs in VI but wasn’t around for VII
I know it’s only been 20 minutes, but any answers?
I updated the comment with an answer
DAAAAAMMMN! OP delivers & sends a reminder!
Thanks!
So far I’ve gotten a eye roll emoji in response lol
Lol, sounds like they’ve been asked before
Bootlickers got butthurt haha
I hope it is! I really hope it is.
He’s like a real life, “most interesting man in the world”.
He also filmed hours of professional quality porn of himself (with partners).
I mean, dude clearly had a unique mind. Not necessarily smart or dumb, but something that made him tick also led him to commit (one of) the most popular acts of murder in American history.
*allegedly
…s…source
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14458011/Luigi-Mangione-sex-tape-bombshell.html
There’s the news article. The source is one of his friends who claimed to know about the videos. But the videos aren’t public.
:(
Remember then the media was calling him a Techbro instead of a tech worker? Yeah, he was never a Techbro.
They tried everything… It didn’t work
Bootlickers eventually fell inline but anyone paying attention saw right through the bullshit.
Anyone with basic vidya game exp knows that you re going the right way when you get this many enemies having a melt down on teevee and socials
Maybe I misunderstand the context of the term but I never viewed them as mutually exclusive. There are toxic “bro” type devs who are still actually good devs (doesn’t excuse being an ass though). I never viewed it as meaning someone who doesn’t code “for real” but maybe I’m misusing it.
For me, “Techbro” exclusively refers to people who repackage existing ideas and sell them as an innovation to VC investors. Think of how many techbros keep reinventing trains and boats, but worse.
I picture those who didn’t embrace geek culture or esthetics, leaning more towards jock and fraternity culture instead, but who saw money in computers.
Arrogant, posturing douchebags that don’t understand the technology they’re involved in and are unwilling to learn. Any “work” that’s done is by actual tech workers or tools creates by them.
The tech bro is only in it for money and “prestige”
That’s how I’ve always interpreted it. Specifically about toxic jocks though, nothing inherently wrong with enjoying sports.
I felt the same, and I want sports to be a vehicle for teaching people about fitness, and teamwork. I am not sure I still do, it so often dissolves into toxic competition, self harm, injury, violence, riots and a general us against them attitude.
I hope people get good things from sports and avoid the bad things.
Plenty of traditionally nerdy things devolve into those as well. Except riots maybe.
I’ve always seen it as meaning the type of douche who would pitch anything to YC
tech bros are people like musk, zuckerberg, a little bezos, altman,etc. same goes for cryptobros, people that peddle the actual crypto, but are very bad at it or they arnt even investing in it themselves. i know someone who was peddling obscure one as actual success.
gates, and Jobs is another.
Rich people? I don’t think I follow what’s in common with all those people you mentioned.
Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are definitely not who come to mind when I think of tech bro.
Better free him so he can fix the UI in Civ7
Guess he’s slipping. He didn’t even solve 1% of the healthcare bugs.
If the Government had let him cook I believe he’d have gotten to 25% too
Everyday more info comes out about him the more likeable he becomes.
He was just an ordinary dude pushed to the extreme.
allegedly
a true patriot would organize a team to break this guy out of jail.
The best outcome of this situation is jury nullification. If the jury nullifies, we’ll have proven the law does not prosecute heroic deeds of this caliber. It would be the biggest blow to capitalism in generations.
“he who saves his country has committed no crimes”
i threw up in my mouth a bit quoting trump, but throwing their words back at them is always satisfying.
If it makes you feel any better, Trump was quoting Napoleon.
You can tell he was quoting someone else because the sentence makes grammatical sense
Everyone who fights the British is redeemable in some way, but no, that’s not a whole lot better.
The guy who tried to take over Europe was arrested and banished (to run a tropical island, so like most rich and powerful was given a super kushy “punishment” that’s more like a forced retirement), returned and tried to take over Europe a second time and was banished again (this time to an actually unpleasant island off the coast of Africa under active guard) might not be the best person for trump to be quoting in this context…
During his banishment to Corsica, Napoleon fully modernized the island by updating and standardizing education, road building and performed other administrative duties in the government.
Trump stole it from a quote by Napoleon, allegedly, so… Not sure if that’s better or worse, but at least it’s not a Trump original.
of course he’s not smart enough to come up with a good quote himself, i should have known better
i love that too, but they will be anticipating jury nullification, and they have stopped people from doing it before.
i just don’t trust anything abut the american justice system any more.
Once the jurors are selected, we need to start a social media blitz in New York around jury nullification. Signs on street corners. Murals. Chanting crowds outside the courthouse on the court dates.
We can do this 💪
i agree, but keep in mind that if the DOJ knows what they’re up against, they will pull some underhanded shit to make a conviction unavoidable. don’t doubt them for a second.
i honestly have no faith and would rather see us organizing the things that don’t interact with the gears of government at all.
Aren’t jurors for high profile cases typically secluded during the trial? Would they even be on social media or in a position to be out in public much?
They still have to enter the building, and the courts have specifically found that holding signs signs and handing out pamphlets about jury nullification in public space outside of courthouse are 100% protected speech.
You’re right there’s no chance they won’t be secluded on a case like this.
I don’t know the extent of that though. They probably don’t sleep in the same building so they need to transit between places. Do they use no windows so they can’t see signs? What about hoods, just as effective as no glass!
your probably thinking grand juries.
Nah, it happens for regular trials. For example, Trump’s felony trial in New York last year. The jurors were all sequestered for that.
Sequestered
Thanks. I was struggling to come up with the right word.
I am in Canada. I would go, but I don’t want CBP to be asking me any questions. Last time I visited the US they searched my car for no reason. I have been interrogated by them before (you can probably tell by my username I am of Lebanese descent), but I have a feeling that the Trumpian bullshit might empower them to detain me for no fucking reason.
The have been arrested white Canadians for improper documentation and holding them for months with no charge or even telling them why they have been arrested and detained.
guns
I have been shouting this from the rooftops since I heard what happened. So many people think you have to punish someone if they are proven guilty… not true in the USA. The jury can decide he is not guilty for whatever reason they want. They can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he did it and the jury can still let him go. So many people don’t know this.
Also a great way to get out of jury duty is to mention this during the selection process, they will boot you 100% of the time if you know this.
The problem is that if you try to get on a jury to do this then you’re usually probably committing perjury. They typically ask questions somewhat related to it without outright using the phrase.
Definitely true. I would perjure myself to get Luigi off the hook though. He is a hero not a criminal. He had the balls to kill that piece of shit, I can have the balls to tell a white lie to get him out.
Can we please stop assuming he did it?
He could get acquitted due to the nature of his arrest
thats why MSMs are so tight lipped about the case, even if nothings going on right now, they arnt say sht in order to “bias” people into believing otherwise.
There is no such thing as jury nullification as a court decision though. Jury nullification is the Jury agreeing that they didn’t see nothing. If they say he did it but they aren’t convicting that may very well be grounds for a mistrial. I suspect that the prosecution will argue that it was a mistrial regardless of whether the Jury nullifies or genuinely is unconvinced beyond a reasonable doubt.
If WHO says he did it? The jury? They wouldn’t say he did it, they would find him not guilty.
So “Fix Civ Bugs” is new code for “Eat the rich” and it’s not even doublespeak.
Civilization has these bugs where some people can get ultra wealthy and ruin it for everyone. As Devs, we need to fix that.
Taking bets on how long before discussing fixing Civ bugs gets you banned on r*ddit
Trouble-shooting
😂
It’s a shame those weren’t caught in QA and are now in production. Hard to ship a patch for so many platforms!
I promise you they probably were caught in QA. Game companies set a date and ship when that date hits, not when the bugs are all closed.
This actually makes an incredible amount of sense. Anyone who has played any of the Civs for long enough knows that taking out the right unit at the right time can change the entire face of the map. Imagine having that kind of tactical gameplay drilled into your head every day for 8-10 hours a day as a developer.
At some point, the lines between the game, the job, and real life must have become blurred. Civ is a virtual abstraction of real life. The healthcare industry is a bureaucratic one, twisted from being a service that cares for people to one that only keeps you alive as long as you can pay.
The goal in every video game is to kill the boss. The sad fallacy of this approach to political action is that there’s always another boss waiting in line to take his place, and the machinery of evil barely blinks an eye at the average murderous vigilante. If Luigi hadn’t have been caught, and just disappeared into the night, we wouldn’t be talking about him now - the murder would have faded from our awareness with the news cycle’s constant obsession over Trump.
Instead, the police did the worst thing they could have done.
They caught him.
And this meant that the faceless masked murderer became a cute rich Italian guy who had a fire in his eyes and the name of one of the most beloved video game characters of all time. By dragging him out in chains in a performative perp-walk, the cops were demonstrating their loyalty to the oligarchy who run the country (and the Healthcare chuds are a big part of that machine), and at the same time, managed to make him into a living martyr.
Because everyone, everywhere, who has ever played a Super Mario Brothers game in their life, has been Luigi at one time or another.
Now there’s no chance at even a semblance of a fair trial, and they’ve guaranteed that the mere mention of his name will draw eyeballs and has the potential to start a riot, or inspire more gunmen.
All because of video games…
Guess they weren’t a waste of time after all, Mom…
Cute theory but Luigi wasn’t the shooter
Yeah, he was having some beers with me in Baltimore when it happened!
if he were and americans werent completely self obsessed and convinced that their shit way of running a country is functional, Luigi would be free under 2nd amendment protection. As healthcare should be provided by the state and at an affordable cost. And it is in every country that isn’t shit and in many countries that are shit.
He’s the nicest guy around.
That’s for the state to prove and so far they have showed that they are got a lot of propaganda but it is not very convincing
they also botched his arrest.
he’s been working on fixing civilization all along
He has experience in troubleshooting
He has great discipline and self motivation, he never misses a target
👏
oddly poetic
I get him now. Using Jira has made me want to kill people too.
He didn’t actually kill tho.
Neither have I. Lucille Bluth wink
We all know Brian Thompson killed himself
It was a manifestation of his own inner evil that killed him, not an actual person.
His claim got denied.
I’d wear that tshirt
Jira is absolute trash. Scrumlords, and their 4 days of actual work per year, should spend their large amount of free time making software that isn’t garbage.
yes, but I havent seen anything thats better yet. I’ve seen a bunch of worse ticketing systems.
The true answer, which not one single CEO will ever want to hear until the problem becomes so dire it threatens the business, is if all the tools available are hot garbage, it’s time to build your own. Generality in software has a cost, and for large multidisciplinary problems like job tracking or ticketing, that cost makes developing an in-house tool for solving your specific problem and your specific use case much more efficient than what any general tool could produce. All those stupid features that some other company depends on, or no one uses, or are only there because someone was trying to capture all possible use cases, can simply not exist. That makes the tool faster, more efficient, simpler to use, and when you realize there’s some feature that would be really valuable you can just implement it rather than cludge together some half assed version in someone else’s proprietary shitpile. There is a scale where things like jira make sense, but much like cloud services it’s a technical trap because by the time you realize the tool doesn’t really work for your use case it’s too late to switch. At that point you’re already past the point you need to start developing your own tool, but the sunk cost fallacy is a bitch and there’s never enough funding for that. Pay no attention to the csuite salaries.
This is a very difficult topic, as sometimes I think the opposite end is true, where a company like mine spends a billion to develop their own solution, which is worse than anything on the market, and worse than our old systems. Executives hallucinating that they will become the next innovative tech company are also a problem, as they vacuum up a lot of resources from the market, and then everybody complains how you cannot find an architect anywhere.
I think companies should do a make-or-buy decision for each tool, and reevaluate this regularly. Of course this requires extra work, and letting go of politics (and sometimes corruption), so never going to happen.
There is a scale where things like jira make sense, but much like cloud services it’s a technical trap because by the time you realize the tool doesn’t really work for your use case it’s too late to switch.
Heh, my org went the opposite route. They started by developing their own tool that’s gotten so big and bloated (with all the original implementers LONG gone) that it’s at the point where they’re talking about moving to a pre built tool because the self built one is too unwieldy to do what we need to do.
At that point you’re already past the point you need to start developing your own tool, but the sunk cost fallacy is a bitch and there’s never enough funding for that.
And if you’re not at that point at the beginning of the process, wait a few years until employee churn is high enough that the sunk cost of the self built system is finally outweighed by the technical debt of the system.
Systems have lifecycles. They should die at some time and be replaced by other systems that function better for the now.
But instead, patch patch patch and keep all the unused or rarely used functions, as well as add more because some csuite attended a conference once and decided it needed x y and z even though company only used a-h.
What’s better? We just switched to it from a total piece of shit called pivotal tracker
I’ve used Jira for a very long time and I’ve never had the utter hate for it that so many people seem to have… are you a PM or a Dev?
For me it’s just create story, add title/description, add any labels or components and then it just works.
Someone else set up all the workflows for us though, I just do dev with it.
Mileage may vary: https://jarvispowered.com/you-dont-hate-jira-you-hate-your-manager/
We had a pretty complicated workflow, but it seemed to work well.
I guess whoever set it up probably went through all the pain so it was easy for everyone else. Or they read the docs well heh.
I’m a dev, I’d say it’s a combination of it being bloated enterprise software with the usability issues that come with that, plus the project management processes that it breeds.
Yes but Lua is like veggie soup for the soul :)