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Republican President Donald Trump said on Sunday he was not joking about seeking a third presidential term, which is barred by the U.S. Constitution, but that it was too early to think about doing so.
Trump, who took office on January 20 for his second, non-consecutive White House term, has made vague allusions to seeking a third one but addressed it directly on Sunday in a telephone interview with NBC News.
“No, I’m not joking. I’m not joking,” Trump said, but “it is far too early to think about it.”
“There are, there are methods which you could do it, as you know,” he said. He declined to elaborate on any specific methods.
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“There are, there are methods which you could do it, as you know,”
Those methods are:
Serving as VP, followed by ascension - The 12th Amendment says no one ineligible to be president can be VP, but the 22nd Amendment only bars election to a third term, not holding office. Trump could potentially be Vance’s (or someone else’s) VP, then that President resigns, making Trump president for a third term without being elected. This is legally untested and would be widely challenged. It doesn’t seem like a route Trump would take.
Repealing the 22nd Amendment - This requires the proposal and ratification of a new amendment. This new amendment must be passed by a two-thirds majority in both houses of Congress, or by a constitutional convention called by two-thirds of state legislatures, followed by ratification from three-fourths of the states. This is an unlikely path for Trump to take. Even with massive cheating, he would never get the numbers in his favor.
Ignoring the 22nd Amendment - AKA the “what the fuck you gonna do” method, which the Trump regime has employed with great success in lots of other areas. This is almost certainly what he means.
Any other method to remain president, such as declaring martial law, declaring a national emergency, using the Insurrection Act, etc, would basically be a military coup that would spark a civil war and Balkanize the US.
Tl:dr; those methods are lying and cheating
He’s the oldest president the States has ever had, hopefully he’ll die before his term is over.
He doesn’t lie about what he wants to do.
He lies about his accomplishments.
It’s been like this since his first term. He’s not lying about invading Greenland or punishing Canada into being the 51st state. He absolutely wants to. Assuming (hopefully) that both these endeavors never materialize, he will claim that these threats accomplished some other goal that was made up on the spot. Which will be a lie.
until it’s actually time for the next election, all of the third term bullshit is functionally serving only to distract from signalgate and dismantling the courts/gov etc. do not lose focus. (edit: typo fix)
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We know he is not joking.
He has zero sense of humour: an inherent inability to recognize or invoke it.
He has zero sense of humour: an inherent inability to recognize or invoke it.
There is a humor-like mocking of watching human beings suffer at the hands of government and business systems, “human tears”, “liberal tears”, “Ukraine tears”, values of winning and defeating humanism with systems of power. Donald Trump is very motivated and works many hours to socially arrange this domination and damage over human persons that don’t please his ego.
That’s called sadism
Most psychopaths don’t have a sense of humor. They can imitate what they think is considered having one but they don’t actually have one.
He really is a psychopath, he shows the warning signs. He can’t have a proper sense of humour when he doesn’t have normal emotions
But he knows his followers defend him by always claiming he’s joking and he’s wanting everyone to know for sure he means it
And it hasn’t even been 6 months yet
I hate to break it to you but it’s been less than 10 weeks.
The only thing keeping most people quiet is the idea that Trump is temporary. This will not bode well for stability.
Trump may be temporary , but his puppetmasters aren’t.
No one votes for someone to be a president for 4 years thinking it’s just temporary.
By temporary and quiet, I think the previous poster means: The reason why there has not been more resistance or assassination attempts is that everone expects Trump to die from uninflicted causes soon enough. It’s not worth sacrificing your own life to see it happen sooner than later.
The entire world is a powder keg where everyone is hoping that the fuse goes out before it explodes. That is why nobody is stopping Trump. This includes the people in GOP who know fully well that they’re on the wrong path. You can tell because they’ve stopped blowing air on the fuse. Except for Vance and Elon. Those idiots want the world to explode.
Waiting it out is still a bad solution, because it will enable more to follow his example.
The reason why there has not been more resistance or assassination attempts is that everone expects Trump to die from uninflicted causes soon enough
There’s still a pretty good chance that eventually someone who Trump/DOGE causes to lose their job will have a “going postal” response.
Especially if that person has other stressors in their life that have already put them on “I have nothing to live for anymore” edge. (Remember the guy in the movie “Falling Down”?)
We’ve all become complacent (incl Canadians). Few are willing to die, get injured, be fired or end up in jail in El Salvador because they were in the fight ‘too early’.
By the time America wakes up to the need for battle Project 2025 will be (almost?) completed and it will be too late to change course.
Trump running for a third term is basically the plot of Civil War (2024).
If you wanna read how prescient that movie really was, here’s Matt Zoller Seitz’s 4 star review of it.
https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/civil-war-movie-review-2024
Trump says shit all day like a fire hose just to spread terror and keep everyone muddied. But he’s old and will die sooner than later. The question is if MAGA manages to continue his style.
The Paranoid Style in American Politics was published in 1964. They’ve been using it to great success for the past century, why stop now?
Sooner hopefully
He doesn’t care about court orders or rule of law. It is possible for him to try it. It is amazing he can say stuff like openly, no pushback from his base. He is pushing people to their limits something will have to give.
Hopefully it involves a gun and an orange man’s head
no pushback from his base
They wouldn’t be his base if they were going to push back. The Republicans who don’t like Trump have already fled to the Democrat Party (which is now thoroughly infested with Neocons) while the Dems that decided they are cool with Fascism are increasingly defecting to the Republican Party.
We’re self-sorting into Fascist Extra Strength and Can’t Believe It’s Not Fascist: Imitation Patriotism.
The strategy is really simple, and I don’t know why it isn’t obvious to everyone. The Republican party will simply refuse to run a candidate in 2028. They will claim that the country is under hostile occupation by Marxists who are attempting to destroy the United States from within and Trump will just refuse to leave office after the mid-terms (if we even make it that far before he declares war & martial law).
They don’t need to cancel, manipulate, or legally challenge anything. At that point, it doesn’t fucking matter what happens with the election because there is no legal mechanism to enforce the removal of the regime. They are going to dare the courts, the police, and the military to try and forcibly remove them, which we all know will not happen. Then just rule by fiat forever.
The End.
I guess that’s why he’s trying to get into a war.
I mean the U.S. even held elections during a Civil War, I don’t think fighting overseas is going to change anything.
Oh 100%, this is dictatorial coup 101
Literally the farthest the conspiracy theories went in 2012 is where we’re headed. Martial law, false flags, posse comitatus, seizing guns.
“Every accusation is an admission” and whatnot…
They’ll probably do something more stupid than that, like replacing him with one of his sons with the promise that daddy Trump will keep running everything regardless
Perhaps. I think it is much more likely that Thiel & Musk attempt to wait Trump’s death out and then install Vance, which will ultimately be the crescendo that causes large scale civil unrest because everybody fucking hates him.
Then just rule by fiat forever. The End.
I don’t think it actually ends that way, but I think you’re right about them aiming for it
To be clear, I agree with you. I was being hyperbolic about the “rule forever” part because nothing last forever.
However, I think they are drunk enough on their own power to believe they can outlast all of us, and it remains to be seen, in the short term, whether they are right…
I still have some hope that if there is an overwhelming support for democrats in the midterms, crisis might be averted. It will have to be overwhelming support, because the GOP are going to play every dirty trick possible to cancel elections, jail candidates, etc.
If that happens, impeachment and removal actually becomes possible. And, even if he isn’t impeached, a democrat controlled legislature could reassert their power and take his away. After all, these “executive orders” he keeps issuing are nothing more than memos from a boss to his subordinates about how he wants an agency to be run. They don’t have the force of laws, laws are exclusively within the authority of the legislature.
OTOH, I think the US is a profoundly sick country, and despite everything Trump still have a huge base of support, so a massive, overwhelming election for democrats is just about impossible.
Sounds like the movie Civil War.
Life imitates art, and the truth is usually stranger than fiction…
We know, he said so before the election. You’d have to be a fucking gigantic moron of an idiot to not understand that. And still Americans voted for him.
Well they actually want him to be king / dictator lmao
It reminds me of the George Washington story. After they defeated the brits a bunch of people wanted to make him king… after they just got done sailing 3000 miles and almost a decade of war just to GET RID OF HAVING A KING. (and other stuff) The baboons that wanted that are this same voter base.
Well, Americans think it’s going to make their life easier, if you don’t need to vote anymore.
Why vote again when you already have the best anyway. Just a waste of time and taxpayers money if you ask me. /S
And this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause.
Liberty in the USA, which hasn’t been all that libertyish for a while. It’s doing fine elsewhere.
This man needs to stroke out and die. The fact he’s not already in prison is sickening
That won’t change things, another idiot will come along.
The only solution now is to topple him or render him powerless. Move your asses Americans, we don’t need you to speedrun the dictatorship game.
Another idiot might come along, but cults of personality like Trump’s are rare. For whatever reason, idiots love Trump the way they haven’t loved anybody since Hitler. Even with Reagan it wasn’t this blind devotion.
Just look at how much infighting there was in the GOP before Trump came along. If he were gone, that would come back and they’d be tearing themselves apart again.
You’d have to get rid of the likes of Vance and the movement behind him in general.
You know, French have had solution for this problem for a very long time.
to shredsheadless, you say?
He’s proven that he does not care about court orders or rules of law, so I doubt he’d be against ripping up the constitution. Not an American so forgive me if I seem ignorant on this, but I hope that there’s failsafes against him getting a third term no matter what he does.
There are not. Fascism has only ever been defeated in two ways: Ballot or Bullet. And wouldn’t you know it, we’re fresh out of Ballots.
If Trump runs for a third term, Obama should too.
Nah, that just legitimizes it for no real benefit.
They don’t care about legitimacy, they brew their own at home. Though I’m not too keen on Drone Strikes McGee coming back.
I’m okay trading legitimacy for a tangible gain, but there is none.
