Chaotic Neutral
unless by lawful you mean they manipulate the law however they please with their money and connections, then no.
You miss the point of the law
Lawful? Really?
Yeah, there is a convicted felon and an illegal immigrant right there.
I’d put Trump and Musk into ‘chaotic’
Definitely evil though.
No need to describe them in any way but just …
Evil
Hahahahaha Hahaha haha “Lawful”
Trump is more Chaotic Evil
Facts. D&D defines the chaotic/lawful divide as whether or not the character abides by a code, ethos, or set of rules. So not “Law” in the “Legal Eagle Law Team” kind of way. Chaotic Evil characters don’t really play by any rules, are unpredictable, and are just plain the worst.
Sounds like Trump.
Sounds like all of them.
It’s why he’s not a billionaire. Zing!
Nah, don’t forget that DJT is a convicted felon.
Fun fact none of them are lawful
In the d&d alignment chart they are because capitalists have no inherent power outside of the laws that enforce their property. Devils in D&D will always break the rules(and rebel) if they think they can get away with it.
Huh? Devils are the corporate “trap you in fineprint and kill you with subclauses” type of evil. They are the ones who sell you the monkey’s paw and come to collect your soul no matter how it shakes out. Catching them in airtight clauses (or narrow loopholes) is famously how you screw over devils.
They paid congress a lot of money to say that they actually are lawfull
Thiel is so evil he doesn’t even fit this chart.
Trump is a felon, so I am not sure “lawful” is the best fit.
The lawful/chaotic axis represents a person’s willingness to follow an external set of rules against their own instincts or opinions. Having a pocket judge or a pocket president to legitimize one’s actions does not make that person lawful.
Trump isn’t a felon… He’s a multi-felon.
Also
a convicted rapistfound responsible in a civil rape trial.Pedants.
Because calling him a proven-in-court-but-technically-not-convicted-because-it-was-a-civil-trial rapist takes too long.
People who multi class are the worst.
true. that’s why i play pathfinder
Unless you are based on Warlock, combat is boring as a higher level 'Lock. (imo, one campaign, around level 7)
In the interest of accuracy, none of Trump’s 34 convictions were for rape.
He was found to be a rapist as a statement of fact in a civil lawsuit, but that’s not a conviction.
So while he is a convicted felon 34 times over, and a rapist, he’s not a convicted rapist.
So you’re saying he has felonies that he hasn’t been convicted for yet…?
Far too many for me to count. But I’m sure there is someone counting.
Bare in mind that this is just the crimes Trump has committed in public. It will take possibly decades of investigations to figure out.
Not that I think those investigations will come. Trump will likely die in office, either this term or the next ten, because he’s won.
But just because he won doesn’t mean that the people can’t hasten that death in office. Sadly it’s not quite time for that yet. Things need to get worse before they can break cleanly.
Musk is definitely not lawful either. Must is pure chaotic evil
He’s definitely chaotic evil.
He’s neutral evil at best
Lots of devils in the Nine Hells fucked up
lawful
As in “full of law”
Like, just jam-packed stuffed to the gills with law, to the point where they vomit law out into the world and we all boil to death slowly in their law-infused stomach acid
As in can dictate law
Bill does some genuinely good stuff. I’m sure he does some bad stuff too though.
there’s a book about that, “no such thing as a free gift: the gates foundation and the price of philanthropy”
Now he’s got his he is. In the 80-00 he was as nasty a fucker as all the rest are now.
That doesn’t surprise me.
It’s actually pretty interesting some of the effects his philanthropic efforts have had.
I think the bottom line is that billionaires shouldn’t exist, all said and done.
billionaires shouldn’t exist, all said and done.
Absolutely agreed.
Absolute greed.
Dude was actually best friends with Jeffery Epstein. Like he wanted to hang out with him casually in New York.
A couple of them might be chaotic.
Thats a weird way of all spelling all of them but sure
This only counts because they use their money to make their lives “lawful” through legislation and capture of the courts, minimizing their very real crimes against humanity.
Okay perhaps Buffett, Gates, and Cook haven’t gone as far as actual crimes against humanity but the rest have, and Buffett, Gates, and Cook are still unlawful but used their money to twist the laws in their favor.
By definition you can not get this rich without stealing the value of peoples labour - at scale.
Aka evil as shit.
In D&D lawful alignments apply more towards a doctrine the character follows, not necessarily the actual law.
You don’t understand Lawful Evil.
In the Nine Hells, bending and breaking rules to your whim is the norm. It’s whether you get caught, and piss off someone powerful, that matters.
breaking rules means they’re not lawful. that’s why demons are generaly described as chaotic
if you do something unlawful, it means you’re not lawful, it doesn’t matter if you’re caught or not
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i feel like it should be more chaotic evil
Ah but they’re the ones that make the laws.
Thats… Thats not how that alignment chart works at all :p. Lawful means they just follow the teachings of something, not that they themselves dictate it.
Chaotic is all for your own personal gainSo, Demon Lords are lawful then?
I mean in their realms I guess so.
That’s not how this works. Making the laws doesn’t make you lawful. Following them even when it’s inconvenient does.
I’m going to tell you right now I do not stand for this kind of racism against demon kind.
