From the moment I learned the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I longed for the strength and certainty of steel.
vape is back in the news, new covid about to drop. somebody figure out what the new fort detrick will be
The “new” COVID has already been in the news for weeks, it’s the strain NB 1.8.1 which is just starting to arrive in the US. The “Fort Detrick” in this situation is every household in the entire world because only 1% or less of people are still taking COVID precautions.
\m/ because heavy metals rock
That’s sick
Cobalt is an amazing band! Missed opportunity to not use their (admittedly generic) logo though
disposable electronics
Death to the west
Gotta give the population lead poisoning somehow
God forbid we have a generation that hasn’t killed off its empathy with frontal lobe damage from heavy metal poisoning
I wouldn’t be surprised, but also wouldn’t be surprised if the study was funded by tobacco companies lol
The tobacco companies have almost certainly done countless studies of this already but kept them all private. If this is linked to any of them it’ll be one study in their favour among a hundred that they’ve done showing the opposite. They did hundreds of studies of the tobacco cancer link and kept those to themselves.
I’m skeptical. The same claims were made about vaping before disposables were even a thing and it always turned out they were abusing the device somehow, deliberately overheating it or dry hitting. I’m sure there are a ton of random chemicals in disposables just doubtful that heavy metals are a problem. Avoid them cause they’re wasteful.
What do you mean? I consume heavy metal, death metal, thrash metal all the time. *looks at thread * not that kinda metal
I mostly take edibles or the occasional bong hit nowadays with friends.
The children yearn for the mines
So is it just vaping in general or only disposables?
Looks like the study might have just focused on disposables.
Those should be banned based on their waste alone
On an article I saw recently apparently a lot of people don’t even know they have a battery in them!! I don’t mean to sound elitist but the ignorance I’ve heard lately seriously baffles me.
A lot of people drink from lead pipes.
A lot more need to be hit over the head with one
LMAO, they think that shit works with magic?
there’s probably a way to make one chemically but good luck turning that back off without it costing more than electronics.
Brb reinventing a cigarette
Hm okay. I’ve often thought if I’m gonna keep vaping I should invest in a rig with juice and stuff, much more economical and less wasteful (not to mention it won’t kill me).
I scanned through various reporting for the same question. They tested 3 brands of cheap disposable vape (article cites there being something like 100 brands of disposable vape on the market). Pretty sure these are all-in-one units; I don’t even think they have pod cartridges—so you use it and throw the whole thing out, batteries and hardware included. So they would have incentive to be the cheapest components possible and to cut corners. There’s a line in one of the articles that said something like they have worse chemicals than cigarettes which are worse than refillable vapes, suggesting these are bad, cigarettes bad, refillable less bad to some undefined degree. While they mention the vape liquid as a cause a little bit, a lot of the bad stuff seems to be coming off the hardware with heat—so like leaded wires and atomizers with bad metals on or near them.
All that to say that as per usual reporting tries to lump all vaping into this one mysterious bad category (thinking here about how that stuff with off-market internet THC vapes was used to support headlines like “vaping destroying lungs of zoomers overnight”). I doubt vaping is safe, but even so I would prefer clear and transparent info about it, and often it seems like there’s just a policy decision/agenda-driven bent to a lot of the reporting.
My guess is that if you get a larger system with better quality parts, it’s going to be safer generally than smaller/and more disposable oriented stuff.
My guess is that if you get a larger system with better quality parts, it’s going to be safer generally than smaller/and more disposable oriented stuff.
I’m a former smoker, vaping for the last ten years on rebuildable tanks with box mods. I had been smoking cigarettes for about ten years before I made the switch. Anecdotally, I can say that my vapes feel way way way less harmful than cigarettes.
I will not touch a disposable vape, and I think they are absolutely a harmful product. This study shows that it’s harmful for your body, but I didn’t need to know this problem in order to identify that casually throwing away a device with a battery in it is a big no-no. Disposable vapes are incredibly wasteful products.
can say that my vapes feel way way way less harmful than cigarettes.
This might not have any connection to the actually safety though, it could be the tobacco smoke is harsher on the lungs so you feel it but the vape could contain more heavy metals that your lungs/throat don’t detect.
But I think you’re right, from what I’ve heard the higher quality vapes don’t have the issue with leaching metals from the heating element.
That’s true. Still, I feel just fine after all these years, and my lung capacity is way better than it used to be when I smoked cigs. That’s not to say that it’s perfectly safe, absolutely nobody should ever start vaping unless it’s for harm reduction.
(thinking here about how that stuff with off-market internet THC vapes was used to support headlines like “vaping destroying lungs of zoomers overnight”)
Also ngl I still kinda think the actual cause for that was the coronavirus spreading in the United States months before it was discovered
If disposable vapes are made of recycled plastic then that’s another red flag. Recycled plastic is often of dubious origin. Lots of random dangerous waste gets mixed in with the plastic, such as pesticides, pharmaceuticals, and of course heavy metals.
My guess is that if you get a larger system with better quality parts, it’s going to be safer generally than smaller/and more disposable oriented stuff.
Thanks for the breakdown.
Isn’t imbibing vials of metal how people do magic in Mistborne? Maybe that’s what’s up.
Nah vapes are for children. Adults should smoke.
People should do neither, unless it makes you look really cool.
Some residual lizard-brain instinct fills us with a quiet anxiety that we have too many neurons for our own good.
If you’re vaping thc or smoking weed, I highly recommend getting a dry flower vape. Absolutely worth it and it’ll pay for itself eventually.
My family were coal miners and I inherited their death drive lol nah this is a good reason to quit as any of the myriad of others; that’s the goal at least