I admit that “psychopathy” is an outdated term but how is it being a nazi to say that sociopathy is caused mostly by brain structure?
Firstly, terms like “psychopath” and “sociopath” have a long history of being used to abuse and persecute neurodivergent people.
Secondly, you are diagnosing a person who you know nothing about with an extremely complicated mental condition.
I’m open to learning the truth and apologizing if I am wrong.
Looking through your moderation history, you have had at least 2 years to learn. Unfortunately you seem to be more occupied with jerking off to underage videogame characters than you are with becoming a better person.
Yeah I believe that things like SA, fascism, genocide, and hoarding wealth are sub-human behaviours, is that wrong?
Use of “ape” as an insult.
Yeah I agree its an insult to call IOF members who do despicable genocidal crimes against humanity “apes” because apes are better than them. I apologize to all primates.
Usage of ableist “REEE”.
I didn’t know it was ableist at the time, I acknowledge I made a mistake, and I’m not going to use it again. Simple.
Misgendering.
You’re wrong, where is the misgendering?
Banned for “History of racism, ableism, misanthropy and hostility”.
Yeah that was because I called IOF members sub-human. I have no history of racism. I can accept hostility and misanthropy but I don’t do that anymore except against zionazis. The hostility and misanthropy was because I got too mad at people who I perceived to be ableist.
A nazi bar is a space where bigoted views become dominant due to a lack of censorship.
Ok if in your experience using the word “psychopath” as an insult *towards the bourgeoisie leads to bigoted views becoming dominant then I’ll retract my comment and apologize.
As far as I’m concerned if a woman tells you that you’ve misgendered her using any of the terms in question, the only appropriate response involves an apology.
Whereas mate has traditionally been understood as a male solidarity term used ‘by males and for males’, this preliminary survey shows that more young women, aged between 18 and 29 years, are reporting their use of the address term mate compared to women aged over 50 years.
But that’s not even the core of the issue. If somebody has been misgendered it is so cruel to start debating the merit of whether it’s actually okay to use that word for them, especially to them. Apologize or get lost.
You’re wrong, “mate” means “friend”, a gender neutral term. Or does it mean something different in amerikkka where you live. I intentionally called you mate because it’s gender neutral. You made a mistake based on your limited Amerikkkan worldview and need to apologise.
I am not american, your assumption that everyone you talk to is american by default is an ironic example of your own limited worldview. Also, you not considering that the words you use can have different meanings to different groups of people also reveals your ignorance.
Furthermore the term “subhuman” is not a racial slur
In the vast majority of contexts, it very much is. You cannot remove the racist undertones of words such as “subhuman”, no matter how progressive the context you use them in is.
When people were sterilised and killed they were called subhuman, the people who began calling people subhuman were the ones who inspired those actions. The term originates with eugenicists to justify their murderous ideology.
On the other hand, it is projection. Furthermore the term “subhuman” is not a racial slur and is primarily meant to dehumanize. I think fascists should be dehumanized for their behaviours. Genocidal scum who SA need to be degraded and dehumanized.
Not by using their terms and conceding their intellectual basis as being correct (Just applied the other way).
You don’t defeat homophobes by calling them slurs because you feel the stereotypes they apply to homosexuals apply better to them, the same goes for white supremacists, eugenicists , fascists et al.
Subhuman is literally the term the nazis used man. You don’t win by conceding that the idea that someone can be or make themselves be less than human and that this is a correct way to frame other humans.
Fascists are humans, their flaws are human flaws, people who commit SA are humans, and they should be treated with these things in mind. That does not excuse them, the fact that they choose to abuse our shared humanity is wrong.
Subhuman is literally the term the nazis used man.
Yep now that I remember, thats correct, the word “untermensch” translates to “subhuman” in english. I will be more careful about using the term from now on.
For the sake of discussion though;
You don’t defeat homophobes by calling them slurs because you feel the stereotypes they apply to homosexuals apply better to them
I agree, and, to communicate what I meant clearly, when I used the term “sub-human” I meant it literally, as in “below the standard of good/neutral human behaviour” i.e. “pathologically harmful to others”.
I don’t mean to say that the nazis stereotypes about disabled people/slavs/roma apply more to them, I frankly do not know any of the stereotypes nazis had about the people they persecuted other than their genocidal Judeophobic propaganda.
I meant it more in a stark literal way (sub-human, below human), not in a way that relied on racial/ableist/queerphobic stereotypes created by the nazis.
*No actually I think that part of it is acknowledging that when racists call nonwhite people “civilization destroying, barbaric, etc.” as qualifiers for the term “sub-human” I think these terms apply more to whites and the west than anyone else. Look at history.
You don’t win by conceding that the idea that someone can be or make themselves be less than human and that this is a correct way to frame other humans.
Genuinely asking, isn’t the idea of prison or capital punishment based on the idea that the person has made themselves less of a human being and thus deserves to have some or all of their rights removed? I agree that most western and imperialist countries unfairly fill their prisons with ethnic minorities, torture, and kill them, but what about when you need to throw reactionaries in jail?
For the record I don’t want to “win” here per se and I know it would be insane to declare that everyone should start using the word “sub-human” as its a winning strategy. I’m just angry.
the fact that they choose to abuse our shared humanity is wrong
Well I don’t think I share any humanity with a being that is rabidly genocidal, sees me as inferior to them, and either wants to destroy me without mercy or wouldn’t mind doing so to further their own personal gain. *Why should I conceptually share humanity with someone who doesn’t even see me as a human being?
Firstly, terms like “psychopath” and “sociopath” have a long history of being used to abuse and persecute neurodivergent people. Secondly, you are diagnosing a person who you know nothing about with an extremely complicated mental condition.
Looking through your moderation history, you have had at least 2 years to learn. Unfortunately you seem to be more occupied with jerking off to underage videogame characters than you are with becoming a better person.
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A nazi bar is a space where bigoted views become dominant due to a lack of censorship.
Frequent use of “subhuman” as an insult.
Use of “ape” as an insult.
Usage of ableist “REEE”.
Use of “genetic abomination” as an insult.
Misgendering.
Banned for “History of racism, ableism, misanthropy and hostility”.
Attributed cruel behaviour to “Biological factors”.
Yeah I believe that things like SA, fascism, genocide, and hoarding wealth are sub-human behaviours, is that wrong?
Yeah I agree its an insult to call IOF members who do despicable genocidal crimes against humanity “apes” because apes are better than them. I apologize to all primates.
I didn’t know it was ableist at the time, I acknowledge I made a mistake, and I’m not going to use it again. Simple.
You’re wrong, where is the misgendering?
Yeah that was because I called IOF members sub-human. I have no history of racism. I can accept hostility and misanthropy but I don’t do that anymore except against zionazis. The hostility and misanthropy was because I got too mad at people who I perceived to be ableist.
Ok if in your experience using the word “psychopath” as an insult *towards the bourgeoisie leads to bigoted views becoming dominant then I’ll retract my comment and apologize.
Yes. “Subhuman” is primarily used as a label by white supremacists to degrade anyone who is different to them.
Calling me “mate” (a gendered term that applies to men) when my pronouns are right next to my name
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And yet you still decided comment.
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So are dude, bro, and man in some circles.
As far as I’m concerned if a woman tells you that you’ve misgendered her using any of the terms in question, the only appropriate response involves an apology.
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Even in fucking australia it was a gendered term
But that’s not even the core of the issue. If somebody has been misgendered it is so cruel to start debating the merit of whether it’s actually okay to use that word for them, especially to them. Apologize or get lost.
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I am not american, your assumption that everyone you talk to is american by default is an ironic example of your own limited worldview. Also, you not considering that the words you use can have different meanings to different groups of people also reveals your ignorance.
In the vast majority of contexts, it very much is. You cannot remove the racist undertones of words such as “subhuman”, no matter how progressive the context you use them in is.
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When people were sterilised and killed they were called subhuman, the people who began calling people subhuman were the ones who inspired those actions. The term originates with eugenicists to justify their murderous ideology.
Not by using their terms and conceding their intellectual basis as being correct (Just applied the other way). You don’t defeat homophobes by calling them slurs because you feel the stereotypes they apply to homosexuals apply better to them, the same goes for white supremacists, eugenicists , fascists et al. Subhuman is literally the term the nazis used man. You don’t win by conceding that the idea that someone can be or make themselves be less than human and that this is a correct way to frame other humans.
Fascists are humans, their flaws are human flaws, people who commit SA are humans, and they should be treated with these things in mind. That does not excuse them, the fact that they choose to abuse our shared humanity is wrong.
Yep now that I remember, thats correct, the word “untermensch” translates to “subhuman” in english. I will be more careful about using the term from now on.
For the sake of discussion though;
I agree, and, to communicate what I meant clearly, when I used the term “sub-human” I meant it literally, as in “below the standard of good/neutral human behaviour” i.e. “pathologically harmful to others”.
I don’t mean to say that the nazis stereotypes about disabled people/slavs/roma apply more to them, I frankly do not know any of the stereotypes nazis had about the people they persecuted other than their genocidal Judeophobic propaganda.
I meant it more in a stark literal way (sub-human, below human), not in a way that relied on racial/ableist/queerphobic stereotypes created by the nazis.
*No actually I think that part of it is acknowledging that when racists call nonwhite people “civilization destroying, barbaric, etc.” as qualifiers for the term “sub-human” I think these terms apply more to whites and the west than anyone else. Look at history.
Genuinely asking, isn’t the idea of prison or capital punishment based on the idea that the person has made themselves less of a human being and thus deserves to have some or all of their rights removed? I agree that most western and imperialist countries unfairly fill their prisons with ethnic minorities, torture, and kill them, but what about when you need to throw reactionaries in jail?
For the record I don’t want to “win” here per se and I know it would be insane to declare that everyone should start using the word “sub-human” as its a winning strategy. I’m just angry.
Well I don’t think I share any humanity with a being that is rabidly genocidal, sees me as inferior to them, and either wants to destroy me without mercy or wouldn’t mind doing so to further their own personal gain. *Why should I conceptually share humanity with someone who doesn’t even see me as a human being?
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