It’s a lot easier than people think, in my opinion.
Light is the main thing that sets your circadian rhythms. If you want to sleep at 10 PM, turn off the lights around that time. Fully dark. No phone. Maybe even blackout curtains. Better if it’s every single night, including weekends.
Listen to music or a podcast if you’re bored laying in the dark. But no light after the time you want to sleep.
You won’t fall asleep at 10 the first night. Or the second night. But it’ll slowly get earlier and earlier every night.
I’ve done this many times. When I worked early mornings, I easily adjusted to falling asleep at 8PM by shutting off all lights consistently every night around 7:45.
I’ve been sleeping at 9pm and waking up at 8am fairly consistently for several months now. Still waiting on that elusive 6am wake up time.
11 hours of sleep a night sounds like heaven
I often wonder if it’s worth being better rested at the expense of losing so many wakeful hours.
Yeah that’s why I barely get 6 hours a night
Yeah. I used to be a night owl and then became a meth addict (whoops) and didn’t sleep much at all for a while. When I got sober, reclaiming my sleep was the first thing I did. Proper sleep hygiene is all. Hide any clocks in your room. Go to bed at 10. Set an alarm for 6am for a few months. When you start waking up at 5:58, you can stop using the alarm. You can use the extra 2 minutes you’ve gained to wonder who the hell you are now.
does being a night owl make me more susceptible to becoming a meth addict?
Get a kid between 1-4 years old
Get a newborn and you won’t have to worry about sleeping at all!
Get a job with consistent hours that suit that kind of sleeping schedule.
Or do what I did, and find a job with hours they already fit your sleep habits. You can still stay up all night go to bed at 5 am every day, when your shift starts at 2! :D
maintain a routine. Actually get up when your first alarm sounds. Do real physical activity during the day (every day, but less on off days is ok). Don’t consume stimulants within 8 hours of bedtime. Don’t consume too much depressants (this includes alcohol). DO NOT TAKE A SCREEN TO BED WITH YOU.
Hit most of these and you should be ok. If you’re doing all of them and it still isn’t working, maybe see a doctor.
Usually I will use a screen in bed, it helps me get to s
oh no chuck norris got to him before he could finish his sentence 😞
For those actually wanting to do it: you start with the morning, not with the bed time. Regardless of when you go to sleep, gotta force yourself up a the time you want to wake. By the time 10p rolls around, now you’re ready for sleep. But you’re gonna start off with a very sleepy day.
Exaxtly. I similarly feel that keeping a regular wakeup time is more effective than going to bed at a regular time.
Wake up on time no matter what, no naps, and follow good bed time hygiene (caffeine, screens, temperature, etc). It will take some time but your body will adjust.
Plus it helps to meditate before sleeping as it’ll increase the sleepiness before hitting the bed
Step 1) Exit Puberty
Step 2) Have a real socio-economic incentive to get up at 6am.
Step 3) Stop drinking caffeine after 4pm. Stop drinking booze after 8pm. (Stop drinking booze entirely, even)
Step 4) Gene Therapy
Step 5) Find out if you snore. If you’re snoring, you’re not going to get enough sleep during the night, which will make you groggy af in the early morning.
Step 6) At 6am, when your alarm clock goes off, it helps if you really, really, really need to pee.
Step 6. Got it just drink before bed but then still have to piss middle of the night and then refill bladder mid night.
Step 7: as soon as you get up, eat a meal. It helps set your internal alarm clock.
Sorry I literally cannot. It makes me feel sick if I eat less than 1-2 hours after waking up.
i feel like then I’d be going back to sleep
Yeah a nap right after a breakfast and coffee, but before the caffeine hits is my perfect unemployed morning.
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Some people are just genetically nocturnal. I had one grandparent who was early to bed. Everyone else in my family is somewhere between 12 and 2 am. As we get older we seem to need less and less sleep though. By 70, my nan was averaging 4 hours. Up to bed at 1, up a 5am to teach her 6am colege classes.
My other grandma slept 3x 2 hour bouts thought the day my whole life. 2hr nap around lunch, another after dinner, then shed be up til 2am, and ‘go to bed’ just to be back up around 4am. I think that had somwthing to do with her living most her life off the grid and having a wood stove got heat her whole life.
Some people are just genetically nocturnal.
Sure. See Step (4).
Although, you tend to require (or, at least, feel inclined towards) less sleep as you age.
I think that had somwthing to do with her living most her life off the grid and having a wood stove got heat her whole life.
Better than needing to piss is waking up freezing cause your feet are out of the covers
I have a little theory for why that is. I think back when we were tribes, having a certain percentage of the population be comfortable staying awake during the night helped protect us from other animals during the night.
But then why are we not seeing people who genuinely like to go to bed at 8 pm and wake up at 3 am for the 2nd shift?
I genuinely like going to bed at like 11am to noon and getting up around 7pm to 9pm. Sadly there’s not a lot of career advancement in the jobs that hire for those hours, and I’ve got student loans to pay.
I see you’ve not met my partner’s father
Capitalism.
You’re missing one big step and that is consistently keep this routine. For best results you have to keep it going through the weekends as well.
In my experience, you can fudge the weekends by an hour or so and you’ll be fine. But yes, if you’re sleeping till noon on Saturday and Sunday, your circadian rhythm will be fucked on Monday morning.
I don’t have problems getting up early on the weekends at all. I cut out like 4 hours of sleep on the weekends without issues. I think the problem is that on weekdays I have to get up to go to work.
Explain 4 please. And with 5, if you do snore, then what? How do you solve it?
4 doesn’t seem to be a real thing because the only gene therapy for sleep that I could find were trials centered around GT for sleep apnea.
Listing gene therapy like you can just go to the doctor and request it is pretty disingenuous since insurance companies will make you jump through 10,000 hoops before even attempting something as expensive as gene therapy.
5 is a sleep apnea thing. i snore (very lightly unless i’m congested) but don’t have sleep apnea. snoring can be an indicator, but there’s not a 1:1 correlation
It requires melatonin and a bunch of alarms.
Source: me
Work so fucking hard during the day, to utter exhaustion , every muscle in your body is trembling from overexertion & your brain is exhausted too. You finally get home, take a shower, and as soon as your head hits the pillow you are OUT. You will sleep DEEPLY and wake up refreshed and ready to do it all over again.
Ask me how I know 😜
Get a dog. I’m now forced to get up early to take it out, otherwise it will pee on my bed.
(Do not actually get a pet if you cannot take care of them.)
Also, children will do this to you.
(DO NOT actually have children if you are just trying to wake up earlier.)
A tamagotchi will also do this.
(DO get a tamagotchi if you are trying to wake earlier)
Do they still make those?
You can apparently buy one for 37€ right now. They’re still in production and have sold nearly 90 million units over the years.
They made a hatsune miku tamagotchi.
Did the trick for me!
my kid has started waking up later…
that quiet time before everyone else wakes up 👍
Even better, try two puppies. Sleep will be your last problem now.
I am up at 5:15 every weekday, my dog stays in bed until I make her go outside and pee before I leave at 5:55. If left to her own devices she’ll want out around 9am. Mileage may vary
Lol bruh I wake up at 530 so my commute is an hour rather than an hour and a half. Only reason
Turn 50.
Well done for making it to 10 😉
Only occasionally :)
😆 💤
You get old
I sleep for longer and get tired quicker but the schedule has never been regular. So not really
For some people though
Work in a manual labor job so you’re tired enough that you actually WANT to go to bed at 10
I wish I got to wake up at 6 when I worked a manual labor job. It was more like 4:45
Yeah manual labour jobs start earlier then getting up at 6 allows.
I’m always blown away by TV shows where everyone wakes up, has a shower sits down makes breakfast and leave for work at like 9
That sounds like my morning when I still had to go to the office… But then that wasn’t manual labor.
I usually started my days at 10 and had a non-existing commute
What time would you finish?
18 usually. We had an hour long paid lunch as part of the 8 hour day, but after a while I would start doing a 10 minute lunch and being out before 17. Software Engineering job with great line managers, so the CEO never found out as he was never around anyway, he was in Dubai for fraud and tax avoidance reasons. We were expected to log 28 hours a week onto tasks and if you missed the target 3 or 4 weeks, you had to bring a pizza for your team. Reasoning was, there’s no point in micromanaging every minute of an employee’s day because a happy employee is a more productive employee.
Left to work at a company that offered me more variety in tech stacks and even more lax rules about hours, working location and everything, with a better salary (honestly a LOT of money to me at the time)… Got shitcanned in my probationary period because I got together with a girl who essentially didn’t let me work at all and ruined my entire life. She got pregnant real quick and after that everything I did was an issue, including working during the daytime when she wanted to nap but her child needed attention. Or in the evening when SHE wanted attention. I was allowed to work starting 2 AM essentially. It was so visible externally how she was destroying me, the CEO literally said if I ever drop the bitch and get my shit back together, I should give him a call to try again. I have not yet, but now I’m considering it, just need to go to court with my ex first, so I know exactly what our custody agreement will be. Right now, she’s breaking our existing agreement that was agreed upon by ourselves, not assigned by the court.
Damn that took a turn, sorry for what’s happened mate.
The best thing that happened to me was the ability to manage myself too.
As long as all the customers are happy and everything is working there was no push back from my boss.
What it showed me was if I can do it for someone else, I could do it on my own. So now I have. Run my own company been in business 1 year tomorrow with never not making money while paying myself a reasonable wage every week.
You should call that ceo though, sooner then later. Might not have room for you today but it shows interest and in 6 months they might be looking.
Just keep going to bed later and later until you run the clock around.
After decades of thinking I couldn’t do this it was rather easy in the end. I just started being more consistent with bedtime and not napping.
I also got into running, rock climbing, and being outdoors more often. Now I wake up before my alarm.
