I challenge you to find a single lapse of solidarity I’ve had. I’ve admitted I deserve to die (for the crime of supporting imperialism on a computer). I don’t know how much prostrating is required and I know there’s not enough ever but I know I don’t deserve to be told to put a gun in my mouth.
I don’t have to be nice to someone who wants a million ghosts to haunt me as if I’m not haunted enough already. Swear to Christ you people would have been happier if I actually had ate a gun in 2016.
No one asked for you to be nice either is the fun part! We said you should’ve have actively engaged in hostile action.
And I’m not engaging with the white guilt bullshit. If you’re having a crisis I would seriously recommend logging off and talking to a hotline. I don’t want you to kill yourself, wouldn’t be happier for it, and haven’t called for it. I’ve actually said otherwise in the middle of denouncing your repeated usage of it as a rhetorical weapon to deflect criticism.
But I should prioritize your anger at them being mean online, over their anger at your role in the oppression of them and their loved ones?
But you actively chose to attempt to hurt one such person again by spewing vitrol at them because they were talking about generalized anger that only touches upon you due to that role?
You didn’t have to be kind, or comfortable, or any of the many pleasant things people like about dealing with other people. You could’ve blocked and moved on, gone for a walk to settle yourself, any dozens upon dozens of actions. But you chose to be actively combative, actively attack them, and actively justify it because they were too mean? How angry are the oppressed allowed to be at their oppressors.
I wasn’t merely being rhetorical with my comparisons earlier. How much kindness do you demand Palestinians display to Israeli forces whom have never considered the nature it’s genocidal apartheid until recently? How much grace do you demand of Jewish people for Nazis whom were just following orders, until realizing the nature of their crime?
When you say asking for death is enough, but hell is or anything of the sorts is just too far for the repentant, you must also make the claim the oppressed that do are unjust in their degree of anger when doing so. You then lashed back out at this anger and said you don’t have to stand for it. The meaning this betrays is that when the oppressed seek retribution no matter how minor, and a verbal lashing is as minor as can be, if the oppressor deems it too far by their own decree, they are allowed to strike again, by what means they deem acceptable.
And you dont see why I called that a lack of solidarity? You don’t see what many of us found abhorrent about the claims these actions require?
So are the incels correct when they get mad when women say kill all men?
Are the Zionist correct that Death to the IDF is too far?
White-supremecists are correct that black people should get over it?
I’m guessing you condemn Hamas since they went too far? I mean, there were civilians at the concert!
Those Haitians were just too violent!
Those in the Warsaw Ghetto shouldn’t have been so angry!
It’s. The. Same. Talking. Point.
No that’s all fine and I know I deserve to die. But the eternal torture and put a gun in my mouth is where I think it goes over the line
Okay Okay Okay. Gotcha. Heard heard.
So wishing hell upon the Haitian slave owners, Israeli genociders, and Nazis is when the oppressed are just too darn violent!
We have found the principled line in which we can declare our lapses in solidarity are just! (/sarcasm)
fannin, read some fucking Fanon for christ’s sake.
I challenge you to find a single lapse of solidarity I’ve had. I’ve admitted I deserve to die (for the crime of supporting imperialism on a computer). I don’t know how much prostrating is required and I know there’s not enough ever but I know I don’t deserve to be told to put a gun in my mouth.
https://hexbear.net/comment/6607715
That was quick.
Guilt, not solidarity.
None was actually being asked for! But if we’re treating that as solidarity you mind taking a knee and throwing on a Kente?
I don’t have to be nice to someone who wants a million ghosts to haunt me as if I’m not haunted enough already. Swear to Christ you people would have been happier if I actually had ate a gun in 2016.
No one asked for you to be nice either is the fun part! We said you should’ve have actively engaged in hostile action.
And I’m not engaging with the white guilt bullshit. If you’re having a crisis I would seriously recommend logging off and talking to a hotline. I don’t want you to kill yourself, wouldn’t be happier for it, and haven’t called for it. I’ve actually said otherwise in the middle of denouncing your repeated usage of it as a rhetorical weapon to deflect criticism.
But I should prioritize your anger at them being mean online, over their anger at your role in the oppression of them and their loved ones?
No of course not, I’d rather have a thousand unjustified angers on me than one directed at the people I hurt without knowing any better
But you actively chose to attempt to hurt one such person again by spewing vitrol at them because they were talking about generalized anger that only touches upon you due to that role?
You didn’t have to be kind, or comfortable, or any of the many pleasant things people like about dealing with other people. You could’ve blocked and moved on, gone for a walk to settle yourself, any dozens upon dozens of actions. But you chose to be actively combative, actively attack them, and actively justify it because they were too mean? How angry are the oppressed allowed to be at their oppressors.
I wasn’t merely being rhetorical with my comparisons earlier. How much kindness do you demand Palestinians display to Israeli forces whom have never considered the nature it’s genocidal apartheid until recently? How much grace do you demand of Jewish people for Nazis whom were just following orders, until realizing the nature of their crime?
When you say asking for death is enough, but hell is or anything of the sorts is just too far for the repentant, you must also make the claim the oppressed that do are unjust in their degree of anger when doing so. You then lashed back out at this anger and said you don’t have to stand for it. The meaning this betrays is that when the oppressed seek retribution no matter how minor, and a verbal lashing is as minor as can be, if the oppressor deems it too far by their own decree, they are allowed to strike again, by what means they deem acceptable.
And you dont see why I called that a lack of solidarity? You don’t see what many of us found abhorrent about the claims these actions require?