i think this just buys into the incorrect incel framing of the actual social phenomenon though, which i get because the powers that be have intentionally made it the default narrative but it’s still flawed analysis.
people aren’t exclusively or necessarily primarily lonely along romantic lines - though like all social bonds, the material conditions for finding a romantic partner have eroded and suck ass and shit is rough out there in that way, no denying that. but i’ve seen data that the number of people who are straight up friendless has gone up 400% since the early 90s, like romantic loneliness is a factor, gender politics are a factor, but it’s a far wider reaching crisis than that.
the real solution is to rebuild communal spaces/group activities/communal institutions, deprogram patriarchal conditioning, and to deprogram “us vs them, what can i get out of this person” competitive/transactional thinking about human relationships. this basically amounts to working to dismantle two foundational pillars of societal oppression (capitalism & patriarchy), which amounts to a generations-long mass struggle with no assurance of success. that doesn’t make for a fun takeaway in corporate media thinkpieces, so the discourse gets warped along misogynist incel lines.
Or women drastically lower their standards for the benefit of being shackled to one of these trolls.
Weirdly, the second option is the more workable one in some people’s opinion.
I do agree that this is the conclusion reactionary misogynists tend to come to, yeah.
Personally I’m not friends with any of the people I was in high school because they all turned into right wing dipshits completely devoid of empathy.
Pretty eye opening when somebody you were friends with for a decade says they don’t have any sympathy for homeless people sleeping outside in the winter because they should just get a job without a whiff of irony.
But that’s also because I chose to live in a rural area so I consider the fact I’m surrounded by straight up fucking nazis to be an unfortunate side effect of being able to go outside for long periods of time uninterrupted.
But that’s also because I chose to live in a rural area so I consider the fact I’m surrounded by straight up fucking nazis to be an unfortunate side effect of being able to go outside for long periods of time uninterrupted.
That and it’s a lot more affordable. Not necessarily affordable in decent housing, but you know. There’s absolutely a tradeoff in needing transportation to better jobs.
I get that, if anything I’m “lonely” because all my former male friends and everybody i live near are dumber than shit fascists.
I’m just saying it’s another example of right wingers constantly complaining despite the factbsociety is literally set up to prevent them from failing at every turn.
These people have an unlimited supply of like minded individuals they could commiserate with, I’m just saying it’s an example of the “male loneliness epidemic” being a result of the fact even chuds don’t wanna spend time with chuds and what they’re really upset about is they don’t have a captive audience to abuse because that’s the only thing that they actually care about.
Kind of like how every social media site is specifically engineered to elevate them but they’re still miserable in a room of people who agree with them.
The “male loneliness epidemic” is just the large scale dehumanization problem, except it’s only a concern when it effects chuds. Kind of similar to how when corporations ruin the environment it’s your fault for personal consumption habits.
Yeah agreed, this kind of social alienation is fully acceptable to capital and bourgeois sentiment until it starts materially affecting lives and The Economy. I think we’ve reached that threshold now. Charlie kirk and Brian Thompson and the attempt on Trump got a lot of people shook.
Yea there’s a loneliness epidemic.
There’s two possible solutions.
The incel basement dwelling groypers self reflect and try to not be repulsive unfuckable losers.
Or women drastically lower their standards for the benefit of being shackled to one of these trolls.
Weirdly, the second option is the more workable one in some people’s opinion.
i think this just buys into the incorrect incel framing of the actual social phenomenon though, which i get because the powers that be have intentionally made it the default narrative but it’s still flawed analysis.
people aren’t exclusively or necessarily primarily lonely along romantic lines - though like all social bonds, the material conditions for finding a romantic partner have eroded and suck ass and shit is rough out there in that way, no denying that. but i’ve seen data that the number of people who are straight up friendless has gone up 400% since the early 90s, like romantic loneliness is a factor, gender politics are a factor, but it’s a far wider reaching crisis than that.
the real solution is to rebuild communal spaces/group activities/communal institutions, deprogram patriarchal conditioning, and to deprogram “us vs them, what can i get out of this person” competitive/transactional thinking about human relationships. this basically amounts to working to dismantle two foundational pillars of societal oppression (capitalism & patriarchy), which amounts to a generations-long mass struggle with no assurance of success. that doesn’t make for a fun takeaway in corporate media thinkpieces, so the discourse gets warped along misogynist incel lines.
I do agree that this is the conclusion reactionary misogynists tend to come to, yeah.
I haven’t had real friends in years.
Maybe you shouldn’t be so repulsive, and should try leaving your parents basement! Hope this helps /s
Personally I’m not friends with any of the people I was in high school because they all turned into right wing dipshits completely devoid of empathy.
Pretty eye opening when somebody you were friends with for a decade says they don’t have any sympathy for homeless people sleeping outside in the winter because they should just get a job without a whiff of irony.
But that’s also because I chose to live in a rural area so I consider the fact I’m surrounded by straight up fucking nazis to be an unfortunate side effect of being able to go outside for long periods of time uninterrupted.
That and it’s a lot more affordable. Not necessarily affordable in decent housing, but you know. There’s absolutely a tradeoff in needing transportation to better jobs.
In high poverty level area, that’s what a lot of women decide too, at least in the rural Deep South.
I get that, if anything I’m “lonely” because all my former male friends and everybody i live near are dumber than shit fascists.
I’m just saying it’s another example of right wingers constantly complaining despite the factbsociety is literally set up to prevent them from failing at every turn.
These people have an unlimited supply of like minded individuals they could commiserate with, I’m just saying it’s an example of the “male loneliness epidemic” being a result of the fact even chuds don’t wanna spend time with chuds and what they’re really upset about is they don’t have a captive audience to abuse because that’s the only thing that they actually care about.
Kind of like how every social media site is specifically engineered to elevate them but they’re still miserable in a room of people who agree with them.
The “male loneliness epidemic” is just the large scale dehumanization problem, except it’s only a concern when it effects chuds. Kind of similar to how when corporations ruin the environment it’s your fault for personal consumption habits.
a real lack of systemic thinking in this analysis here. this is the ‘personal carbon footprint’ logic applied to social relations
Similar to that example nobody cared when vulnerable populations were suffering from the effects, but now it’s affecting the PMC it’s a top priority.
AI is fine but you should feel bad about getting a coffee in the morning.
It’s fine were kicking in doors at leftist political meetings but Braylen Whitacker got turned down for prom so people need to be more empathetic.
Yeah agreed, this kind of social alienation is fully acceptable to capital and bourgeois sentiment until it starts materially affecting lives and The Economy. I think we’ve reached that threshold now. Charlie kirk and Brian Thompson and the attempt on Trump got a lot of people shook.