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Hahahhaha yeah there’s definitely no one in Norway who wants to get rid of all the brown people, queers, and communists! Everyone in Norway is just a reasonable, open minded Social Democrat.
Tell your Norwegian family that you think the Roma are human beings too and see how long that family bond lasts
They did say “usually”
I’m from Norway and I’ve cut Fellow Countrymen™ out of my life for spreading anti-vax conspiracy theories and Kirk lionizationWhy the fuck do Norwegians care about Charlie Kirk?
American cultural hegemony is so weird to consider when it extends to our political theater.
Don’t you have your own weirdos? I’d figure you’d have like Brevik stans or whatever.
Not just this but the now-former leader of the Red Youth (youth wing of the furthest left party in parliament) was practically FORCED TO RESIGN for making a singular incredibly tame joke about Charlie Kirk’s assassination on TikTok. It was a huge scandal and the Norwegian news media has remained fucking obsessed with everything this 22-year-old has done with her life ever since.
Neeeeei, vi hater dette landet som det faller neeeed………
OK, we’re going to have to pause Norway until we can figure out what’s going on.
Fascism is always astroturfed, and our modern day astroturfers are not very good at making bespoke propaganda for each country (well, there are local fascist astroturfers everywhere, but they may not have the kinds of platforms as the international ones)
People outside the US are propagandized to fuck and don’t know it. None of them actually know anything about the US, even a lot of the people who criticize the country.
Last year the heated topic at my family showdown was whether people deserve homelessness and poverty and this year it was whether the state should have the right to sterilize people who have lost guardianship of their children due to neglect.
I tend to stand my ground until they lose interest in debate and I fucking know they will never change their minds on any of it - but it does become a topic that comes up later on as some form of, “Oh, that’s a touchy topic we don’t talk about that in front of [me]”
Damn right you don’t, lmao, this is my domain. While you were passively and uncritically absorbing fascist culture, I studied the blade (systemic critiques of capitalism and their solutions)
It’s really annoying when they ask your opinion on something, you say something they disagree with, they have nothing to back up their beliefs, yet they just end the conversation and never change their minds. Family asks me how I feel about landlords. I say they’re leeches that contribute nothing and in the future, all tenants and workers should seize the property to live in it directly. “But they provide housing and maintenance!” I explain that the rent is far above the cost of maintenance, and the original price of the housing is irrelevant because the landlord gets to just sell the house eventually to recoup that investment. So they just end the conversation there (no counter argument at all!). No change of mind.
My personal favorite “pro-landlord” argument from my family is “but some people want to rent!”. Okay, so have social housing for them that rents at cost?
So they just end the conversation there (no counter argument at all!). No change of mind.
Yeah but, think of how much cognitive dissonance they would feel if they accepted what you said as true. We can’t have that!!!
It would set a terrible precedent! Because once you label landlords as useless evil leeches, who’s next? CEOs? SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS?!!??
Next thing you know their whole worldview comes crashing down
no counter argument at all!
Because there really isn’t one.
My SIL has a terrible habit of starting political arguments and then very quickly jumping to “I don’t want to talk about it anymore” the moment it becomes clear that she is in over her head, which is objectively hilarious. Wouldn’t want to accidentally hear something that makes her consider the contradictions in her beliefs.
She has very little self-control - it’s like a bat signal goes up when she overhears someone talking politics that she disagrees with, she just gets dunked on every single time and still can’t help herself.
That’s very funny. I try not to be elitist, but honestly it’s hard not to judge people’s intelligence. It takes a very specific and malicious kind of stupidity to maintain chud beliefs. If you’re dumb and a kind/good person you’ll be a communist no doubt, or actually apolitical. “Why can’t we all just be nice to each other?!” As a genuine question, because it comes so easily and they struggle to imagine how others fail to do it. If you’re dumb and an angry little 12 year old, you’ll be a chud.
People just disregard evidence and it has caused me to lose my mind
“But they provide housing and maintenance!”
Had a landlord not pay his mortgage for a whole year while I was still paying rent. Didn’t find out until cops knocked on my door. I still have the paperwork so I can beat people over the head with it.
usually about toll roads and fishing quotas
The only topic that I’ve heard Scandinavian politicians talk about is migrants and how they’re the bane of Europe and what program they’ll put in place to stop them from coming there.
Yes, but there’s no debate around the dinner table about that because everyone agrees.
This, this is called the myth of sameness that the local libs are very proud of. Translated to what it actually means is that everyone even remotely leftist, poor or marginalized is othered in a way where the ones with more power can say whatever without pushback, because “we are all equal here”.
This is how an upper middle class person can moan about hard times in the same breath with an actually poor person who is starving, example: “Yes it is difficult, we have had to consider not doing three trips abroad yearly” in reply to “I can no longer afford food.” This is completely ok socially and if the poor person says something, they are the bad person who is being uncivil and ruining vibes.
Also we should not forget the incredible history of violence that has ensured this “sameness”. It’s samenes for the upper class.
And those of us who don’t agree can’t say anything or we get called Putins trolls and believers of Ruzzian missinformation, regardless of the topic. And then the nato-loving very serious and rational people start popping veins in their head.
God European libs are so annoying they’re so obsessed with American politics and so smug while being Hitler
“I’m privileged and I can’t imagine what it’s like to be either the target or have loved ones targeted by my government.” That’s what the person is saying.
Willing to bet they enjoy the moral superiority they feel from it too.
norway be like: we so civilized, we care about climate ♥
norway also be like: oil is everything
And how they treat the Sami
of course we’re going to eat every fish in the ocean. we’re politely debating whether to make the fish extinct or keep some for the next generation
Say Ukraine war was justified and they’ll suddenly become aggressive
My parents had one of those “political” marriages so luckily this was actually never part of any of my holiday memories.
Political in this case means interracial in the 1970s. The uncool branches of the family got pruned long before I popped out lol
“Grow up and accept that you don’t don’t matter.” Seems to be a concerningly common mantra these days.
It’s typical of cishet WASP men (though a lot of WASPs in general) who are isolated from the violence caused by the system. They cannot imagine a world where they are on the receiving end of police brutality or an Amerikkkan military attack. They never have to watch what they say or think about where they go. Everyone actually affected by politics becomes an abstraction or hypothetical.
tl;dr–
(although it’s not really tl;dr because leftist memes lol)
The important thing is to continue the thought. Yeah in an individual level most of us don’t matter but that should be freeing, not something we allow to damn us to a life unfulfilled.
In a year nobody is gonna remember you skipped the meeting to go skiing. But you’ll remember the feeling. Live your life, and remember not to overestimate your effect on and obligation to the world around you.
I think it’s better to have political agency rather than let demons dictate everything. You can Live, Laugh, Love all you like, but don’t use that as a basis for thinly veiled nihilism.
Depressing and disempowering, is how I’d put that. Not freeing. Accepting the cage isn’t freedom to me.
I see it more as knowing what I have control over, and accepting that, and using it to my advantage. I understand your view as well though, agree to disagree?
Sure thing, but I think I can see where you’re coming from when you put it like that. I guess we’re all trying to make the best of a bad situation in our own ways. I still don’t completely agree with you, but I get it.
knowing what I have control over,
shit i don’t even have control over my own body and barely control what i eat
That’s not too far removed from “no lives matter.”
I’m not sure that’s a road we really want to be headed down, even if we appear to be a good ways down that road already.
Hey, Norway in this guy’s head.
You open for immigrants? Got any cool master’s programs?
Threads is basically just Twitter but you exchange the extremely insufferable chuddery for extremely insufferable libbery
I’m surprised there’s less chuds on Threads with how right-wing Instagram is
Won’t last. Their online existence is driven by conflict and once twitter turns into even more of a chud echo chamber they’ll get bored and invade threads as well.
Maybe. They’re basically parasites to social media that destroy everything they touch. So if Threads is the healthiest host for that, it’ll be that. They have Reddit, Facebook, Steam, and YouTube right now with a lot left to squeeze.
It is much easier to agree to disagree when your uncle isn’t voting to strip you of your civil rights
Sighs this apathy for other people’s suffering is so tiring. “It doesn’t affect me negatively so it’s not worth shunning the imperialism-enabler” is not the moral victory this person seems to imply.
I’m so tired of this, how do we change it? Does anybody have advise that has worked on helping people find a sense of solidarity?
So far, I’ve tried leading off with “Stalin did nothing wrong. Wait, I take that back – he did three things wrong. He was problematic on LGBT rights, he stopped at Berlin, and he died. But other than that…” on my dear, sweet, lead-poisoned narcissist mother, but it didn’t work. She just kept babbling on about how RFK Jr. is going to make everyone healthy by banning Takis, and she somehow thinks I’m a Republican (and not the Irish kind) because I called out Joe Biden for repeatedly walking back student loan forgiveness.
We’re dealing with some uniquely fucked up people over here.
My grandparents aren’t even originally from the US, but they seem to have this very reductive “Democrat or Republican” false binary stapled in their mind. For this reason, back when I actually did talk to them, my grandparents would assume that I approve of every single policy Biden and Obama put in place because they thought that my opposition to the Republican party meant that I was staunchly in favor of Democrats.
assume that I approve of every single policy Biden and Obama put in place
The reactionaries in my family assume because I am vehemently opposed to the Republican party, I must be some kind of SJW libslur soyboy. Their brains short circuited when I said I was against gun control and actually knew things about guns. They got really pissed when I said “Guns are tools, not toys.”
They were so flabbergasted someone is against lowering taxes to cut education funding, then turn around and call Joe Biden a white supremacist. My “Mao did nothing wrong” jokes don’t land with this crowd, either.
he did three things wrong.
Four. He also supported the creation of Israel.
eurocuck libs are infuriating in an entirely different way. also we definitely also have ghouls who want to kill minorities, thats not “uniquely american”, you smug fuck
I would be surprised if they would cut off their family members for supporting the South African white genocide. Every minority in the USA matters to these liberals, but as soon as they are beyond the country’s borders minorities are invisible, unimportant, expendable.
Definitely not uniquely American what is bro on about
