• MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    9 days ago

    I don’t see how any party is going to bounce back in the short term unless they just copy Farage on immigration, which would be horrendous. There’s just no going back now in the short term. 80% of the UK thinks there’s too much illegal immigration, and even a slim majority of around 45-50% (vs slightly less for opposing views, and then undecided) think there’s too much legal immigration. Those numbers would take years to change.

    • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      9 days ago

      Labour can bounce back if they put the correct person in and start saying left wing things. Andy Burnham is that man.

      The problem is that the Starmerite faction has to choose that outcome themselves. Andy can’t get an MP seat before the next election unless the NEC (national executive committee) selects him for a seat before then, as he doesn’t have an MP seat currently and he can’t be leader of the party without one.

      Someone like this would pull back the Green, Lib Dems and split Your Party (the trots would go back to do more labour entryism).

      I don’t think the Starmerite faction will allow it to happen. But it can happen, it’s right there and not that hard, it just requires those fools to swallow some pride, a thing I do not believe they will ever do.

      Don’t get me wrong here, I don’t know whether he would actually win vs Reform, all I’m saying is that it would save the party itself by rebounding it to the 30-40% vote numbers again.

      Nobody else can do it though. It’s Andy or nobody.