Most men are just a few bad dating experiences and a wrong turn in their search history away from becoming full-on incels. There’s a reason fascists use manosphere crap so heavily for recruitment. The way heterosexuality and masculine gender roles (mal)function in a patriarchal system just dovetails very easily into that ideology, as it creates both a sense of sexual and romantic entitlement in men, a complete lack of empathy towards women and as a result of both a high likelyhood to become incapable of building a fulfilling relationship or even to becoming entirely undateable in the eyes of a lot of women, which in turn leads to extreme resentment that is then easily harvested by Tate-style grifters offering more of the same as a “remedy” to these problems.
But yes, “most men” absolutely does include the Beatles here.
I think you’re thinking of the stones
“And the Beatles were hard men too. Brian Epstein cleaned them up for mass consumption, but they were anything but [slur]. They were from Liverpool, which is like Hamburg or Norfolk, Virginia–a hard, sea-farin’ town, all these dockers and sailors around all the time who would beat the piss out of you if you so much as winked at them. Ringo’s from the Dingle, which is like the fucking Bronx. The Rolling Stones were the mummy’s boys–they were all college students from the outskirts of London. They went to starve in London, but it was by choice, to give themselves some sort of aura of disrespectability. I did like the Stones, but they were never anywhere near the Beatles–not for humour, not for originality, not for songs, not for presentation. All they had was Mick Jagger dancing about. Fair enough, the Stones made great records, but they were always shit on stage, whereas the Beatles were the gear.“
Lemmy of Motorhead?
Yes
I think you’re thinking of the stones
Based on Under My Thumb, they were already pretty redpill even with a band.
Weren’t they all married before they became famous?
Wasn’t Lennon a wife beater despite singing about peace and love and shit?
Yes, also made fun of neurodivergent people and mocked Judy Garland for trying to take her own life.
(CW: Sexual/just actually gross)
spoiler
Also admitted in an interview that when he was a teenager he wanted to have sex with his mother
could have been as big as the beatles, they were just born too lateWtf???
I too wanted to have sex with his mother when I was a teenager
Go on
I’ve had this theory about rock bands for ages, that they were basically incels who started bands to get women.
Not trying to argue but Im pretty sure Its much easier to get a girlfriend than starting a succesful rockband (even a bad rockband). At least for me I guess
The past, it turns out, was different. It’s not that millions of angsty teens were all able to the really difficult task of starting a rockband. It’s that the environment made starting a rockband easy. An environment that no longer exists.
Yeah it is almost as if every single bar and club needed to have some form of live performed entertainment on a regular basis, and not just once every three months.
Alright, but consider the immense power those fuckers get to wield over groupies. We’ve got streamers now who seem to operate on basically the same motivation.
Don’t have to be any good to still get the “I’m dating/banging the lead singer of a band” badge.
I guess you do get some of the fortune and fame even as a bad indie band but that still seems like a lot of work
Wat
One of my most locked in musical opinions is that if he was still alive, Kurt Cobain would be an insufferable contrarian right wing conspiracist type. He wouldve been on joe rogan 20 times by now
she would have been a blue maga lib
