smart move imo

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    Why smart? The goal is to get the oppressive communist regime of cuba to collapse, how is helping them going to get them further towards this goal?

    Same with the UK not letting the US use bases against Iran, why are western governments pussy footing around with awful regimes that kill their own citizens?

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      Can you cite the oppression? Because I have seen you get free medical school there and they have cancer treatments other countries don’t.

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        Can you cite the oppression?

        Why do I have to do all the work

        Because I have seen you get free medical school there and they have cancer treatments other countries don’t.

        By other countries do you mean America?

        We also have access to free education: https://tafeqld.edu.au/courses/apply-and-enrol/subsidised-training/fee-free#courses

        We also have universal healthcare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Australia

        They also can’t afford it

        while historical allies such as Russia and China no longer offer unlimited financial support due to the island’s crushing public debt (108.6% of GDP) and deficit (about 17% at its peak), as well as its record of defaults on loan repayments.

        Can you cite the oppression?

        I did here: https://aussie.zone/post/30024551/21613626

        https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/americas/central-america-and-the-caribbean/cuba/report-cuba/

        Sounds like Cubans have almost made up their mind and voted with their feet:

        , one in four Cubans have left in four years

        Most Cubans want change. But you cannot lead opposition inside Cuba because the regime jails any potential organiser

        https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/10/cuba-regime-polycrisis-collapse-exodus-economy-migration-us-sanctions-trump

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          Thanks for links, I asked because you came across as knowing more than I.

          The Cubans I have met didn’t talk very negatively about their homeland, just that the US embargo’s cripple their country and so life is harder than what they see in rich countries, and so wanted more.

          We have some subsidized enrollment in Canada too, but in a communist system its not about subsidizing a for profit system by application approval, its about providing it to all as a service.

          As for cancer treaments mine was head and neck cancer (all free in Canada) but it was old medicine techniques of blast and (hopefully) recover. Cuba with non profit pharmaceutical had come up with a “cure” for it but not available in USA or Canada because of the stupid politics and restrictions.

          I’m not purporting they are a utopia, but I think USA media paints a dictator regime propaganda, while doing the exact same thing themselves.

          Political scientists characterize the political system of Cuba as a single-party authoritarian regime where political opposition is not permitted.[12][13][14] There are elections, but they are not considered democratic.[15][16] According to the V-Dem Democracy Indices, Cuba is the second least democratic country in Latin America.[17] Censorship of information (including limits to internet access) is extensive,[18][19][20] and independent journalism is repressed in Cuba;[21] Reporters Without Borders has characterized Cuba as one of the worst countries in the world for press freedom.[22][23]

          If this is the comment you meant, then its not really a good one, you are describing the current US ADMIN.

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      The goal is to get the oppressive communist regime of cuba to collapse,

      And replace it with an oppressive capitalist regime willing to sell the country to American capital, don’t forget that part. We already fucking know what America bringing “democracy” means, and nobody with any decency should be cooperating with that. Clearly Canada’s goal is to not (or at least look like they won’t) let America starve Cuba to death.

      why are western governments pussy footing around with awful regimes that kill their own citizens?

      As opposed to western governments that kill other people’s citizens?

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        Don’t you know? When I kill citizens, it’s called freedom. When someone else kills citizens, it’s called tyranny.

        Governments I like are called governments, governments someone else likes is called regimes.

        Don’t you want to support freedom? Why are western governments so against freedom? Why is Canada playing pussyfoot with oppressive tyrannical communist regimes?

        The person who thinks this post is legit doesn’t deserve an /s.

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          I mean, I’m just listening to Cubans themselves, they call it a regime.

          One of Cuba’s most prominent former political prisoners, José Daniel Ferrer García, the founder of the opposition group Patriotic Union of Cuba (UNPACU), went into exile in Miami in October after decades of activism and multiple imprisonments.

          “Most Cubans, inside and outside, want change,” he says. “But you cannot lead opposition inside Cuba because the regime jails any potential organiser immediately.”

          Another exiled political dissident, Luis Leonel León, Miami-based director of the Cuban Studies Institute, argues that forced exile has always been the regime’s fix – sending generations abroad and giving rise to what he calls the “empty island”. For many, he says, hope is so diminished that even rebelling seems pointless; the best option is to leave rather than fight.

          https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/10/cuba-regime-polycrisis-collapse-exodus-economy-migration-us-sanctions-trump

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            The COVID trucker convoy labeled the Liberal government as a regime. They also say the liberal government suppresses dissent and the freezing of bank accounts as totalitarian. They also say most Canadians oppose the Liberal regime and that Trudeau got fewer votes then the Conservatives.

            Many such people emigrated to Mexico saying leaving is better than fighting.

            Are you going to say the Liberal government is a regime?

            I bet there is at least one Cuban who labels the government as the government.

            “Cubans” don’t view their government as a regime. You do, then found a Cuban that agrees with you and then put their quote in bold.

            You just proved my point. Government I like is called a government, government someone else likes is called regine.

            If you are consistent with “regime” you’d call all governments as regimes.

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      In short: it is bad to help any regime do collective punishment on a group of people.

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      western governments pussy footing around with awful regimes that kill their own citizens [and are genocidal pedos]

      FTFY. I really wouldn’t wanna live in Cuba but don’t tell me the west are the good guys.

      Btw "pussy“ as an insult has become kind of weird to me, what makes you use that for something you perceive as "weak“? E.g. being bitch would serve a similar purpose but the meaning of the word seems to actually relate to what you’re trying to express no? Honestly curious.

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        Btw "pussy“ as an insult

        That’s not what the term “pussyfoot” means.

        Etymology

        From pussy (“feline”) +‎ foot; because of the light and careful tread of cats.

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          Interesting, thank you! not a native speaker but I guess I could have looked this up myself.

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        western governments kill their own citizens

        How many citizens has Canada killed recently? Is it upwards of 30,000?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

        Can you point to me any recent Canadian government massacres?

        Btw "pussy“ as an insult has become kind of weird to me

        https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/pussyfooting

        Also what makes “dick” mean being rude or “dickhead” meaning acting stupid? who knows

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          Mossad rioters being called peaceful protestors is the warmongering narrative. Israel media proudly boasting about Mossad rioters, and Ted Cruz calling to arm the Mossad rioters more, exposes the pure demonism of the empire. This message was provided in the off chance that you are fooled by demonic agenda, instead of an active promoter of demonism.

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          Wasn’t this supposed to be about Cuba? Why are you bringing Iran into it?

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            My comment was

            Same with the UK not letting the US use bases against Iran, why are western governments pussy footing around with awful regimes that kill their own citizens?

            but hey while we’re here:

            Political scientists characterize the political system of Cuba as a single-party authoritarian regime where political opposition is not permitted.[12][13][14] There are elections, but they are not considered democratic.[15][16] According to the V-Dem Democracy Indices, Cuba is the second least democratic country in Latin America.[17] Censorship of information (including limits to internet access) is extensive,[18][19][20] and independent journalism is repressed in Cuba;[21] Reporters Without Borders has characterized Cuba as one of the worst countries in the world for press freedom.[22][23]

            Friends of yours?

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              Oh, hell, sorry, I had no idea that the “V-Dem Democracy Index” judged that Cuba was the most evil country on earth. Yes, in that case I hope the nazi pedophile government of the united states completely cuts off all fuel, food, and medical supplies, and drops bombs as necessary, until every last man woman and child on the island has been freed. Then they can build some beautiful casinos over the rubble, like they plan to do with Gaza.

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              Yes. Cuba is lovely. But you’re moving goalposts again. When you decided to weirdly include Iran in all this, you included them due a massacre of 30k people. That’s a far cry from your complaints about Cuba. So why are you conflating them as though they were the same place?