• 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Considering the fire started in the ship’s laundry facility, I’m calling this one “Schrödinger’s floating dormitory full of dudebro manchildren who have never once cleaned a lint trap in their fucking lives.”

    Respect your electric clothes dryer, or it will literally burn you alive.

    Thank you for coming to my a-guy talk.

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      This is the same ship where they were flushing clothing down the toilets. It’s pretty likely that the fire is the same people that did that in my opinion.

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      I gotta believe they’re not having each individual sailor do their own laundry unsupervised like a laundromat though right? Surely there are people whose job it is to do the laundry for the whole ship? So maybe these people know their shit well enough to get away with making it look plausibly enough like an accident or something. I have no idea though, I’m just speculating wildly

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        Or like they toilet system they went with something that only works part of the time or easy to break?

        Although idk how you’d mess up industral size laundry systems but also didn’t think they could mess up plumbing.

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    they probably scared because they are gonna face a foe that can actually punch back. If it was a typical weak foe, these sailors would not have any problem doing their Imperialist duties. What’s a few dead poor brown kids, as long as you get free med and college eh?

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    I wasn’t aware it was on a six month deployment that was extended TWICE and is now on the 11th month

    lmao they’re absolutely revolting against the brass, extended deployments is a mental health killer for troops, there’s definitely sabotage

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      They do. All US ships AFAIK have an armory for small arms in case of emergency, patrols/lookouts, or they have to go ashore for whatever reason in a war zone. They’re incredibly strict and of course there’s a hall monitor chud who counts every bullet and gun that gets checked out while keeping everything under lock and key.

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          im pretty sure the small arms on board, regardless of any other theoretical need, are primarily stored and compartmentalized for the purposes of stopping a mutiny from taking control of critical areas and sealing off groups in non-essential areas through strategic control of access hatches/doors/etc. every ship constantly drills “general quarters” (action stations etc) which is a total lockdown in place where movement is tightly controlled, ostensibly an announcement of potential external threats. but it achieves a completely different purpose simultaneously.

          the birth of every professional navy on earth was of kidnapping/pressganging men into servitude under threat of starvation, torture and death at sea for even minor attempts to resist work or authority. they have always been floating work camps run by a tyrant with full authority to maintain control.

          the bullets for amall arms on large naval ships are intended for their own sailors should tensions come to a head.

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      Definitely, I don’t think it would be too difficult to hold major systems hostage with the sheer amount of matériel and super dangerous shit on board

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      When the American Potemkin Mutiny happens, who do we want to star in the post-revolution movie adaptation?

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    That behemoth is way over due to return to port and isn’t scheduled to return for months. It should return to port every 9 months (iirc) and its been deployed for over a year.

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    I know it’s probably just them revolting against bad working conditions and not being part of a genocidal imperial hegemon. But then, so were most of the crew of the Potemkin.

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    Isn’t this the same ship where the sailors were flushing clothing and stuff down the toilets, and clogged them all up?

    Clogging toilets is one thing, but setting fire to your own ship sounds like a pretty extreme strategy. These guys really don’t want to be in the game.

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        The initial principles that this nation was founded upon - the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, Freedom of expression, Democracy, etc., are worthy of respect and patriotism. Unfortunately, these principles have been exploited by literal criminals, who have dragged America away from those basic principles.

        There is nothing wrong with being patriotic to those founding principles, and wanting to return America to a path that honors those principles.

        I will never be patriotic to the criminal MAGA abomination, but I can still be patriotic to the principles that I want America to stand by.

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          James Madison explicitly outlined American institution as built to protect the power of wealthy landowners against the majority. And this is not even talking about slavery or Native American genocide. America was always like this and Trump is the most American president.

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            I fully understand that.

            We are at a crossroads in America, the likes of which we have rarely encountered before, and we have a chance to take America in an entirely new direction. The MAGAs recognize this, and are trying to install a brutal dictatorship.

            We have to counter that, and deliver a new future for America, and there is no reason we can’t re-install those original concepts, and reconfigure America to honor the original promises of this nation, and not the atrocities that we have had to deal with throughout our history.

            It won’t do anything to erase the indelible stains in our history, but we can rededicate ourselves to the original American principles, and in the future be the nation that we, and the World, wants.

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              I think an argument can be made that this is actually the 2nd Republic; there was a civil war, after all. The 1st Republic from 1776 collapsed under its own contradictions and was an absolute failure based on those original principles. Reconstruction didn’t go far enough. There should have been a new Constitution, rather than trying to amend the shambling corpse from the 1st Republic. There should have been mass executions for all former slave owners, but instead we let them live and they reestablished themselves in the sharecropping system with the Klan.

              Let’s not make the same mistakes in the 3rd Republic.

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                Valid.

                I don’t believe in Political retribution no matter which inside it comes from, and which side it victimizes, but I am very supportive of prosecuting politicians for their CRIMES alone. I may not agree with your politics, but thats the game. Those who gain power, and then exploit the system for their own personal agendas, deserve the harshest punishment possible, as a warning to future dipshits who might get ideas.

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                  To be clear, this has nothing to do with retribution or acting as some kind of warning. Rather, there’s the simple fact that leaving them alive left them the opportunity to retake power and control. Every moment of massive political upheaval needs to address the problem of what to do with the losers, because if we don’t, they recuperate and strike back at the political project.

                  If you overthrow the King and let the King’s family live, monarchy can come back.

                  If you overthrow slaveocracy and let the slave owners live, slavery can come back - and it did.

            • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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              there is no reason we can’t re-install those original concepts, and reconfigure America to honor the original promises of this nation

              promises to who? the american revolution was bourgeois not proletarian. not even all free white men could vote. the atrocities were inherent to the founding and they are load-bearing structures to this day.