Not really? Eliminate capitalism is a goal, but just saying that contains no actionable steps. Repealing Citizens United is an actionable step that brings us closer to that goal as it removes legal bribery. Like I get it we like to joke here but in reality thats an actusl step we can take today to reduce the oligarch’s power and thats a good thing, Mark.
So you think we should say fuck it, leave the legalized bribery, its not worth doing anything if its not the complete destruction of capitalism? Is that a bit? Lmao
Same reason Democratic Party entryism is a dead end, citizens united miraculously going away doesn’t alter the fundamentals, we are living under the dictatorship of capital and every single arm of state power serves it, not us.
Okay but is it better if corporations can donate millions to their preferred agenda conforming candidates? Cause thats a massive issue in any supposedly democratic system. It matters to me cause anarchy and democracy are two sides of the same feather.
If you’re an anarchist why are you invoking a statist argument like “we must get the state to reverse its own court decision, then things will be better”?
It’s weird because I’m a Marxist-Leninist, the kindest thing I’d expect to be called by an anarchist is “statist” but the roles are weirdly reversed here.
My bottom line is the US does not magically become more democratic if you repeal citizens united. What you actually need to do is organize dual power wherever you can, and anti-imperialism is priority one
Are you…. Is this a bit?
Not really? Eliminate capitalism is a goal, but just saying that contains no actionable steps. Repealing Citizens United is an actionable step that brings us closer to that goal as it removes legal bribery. Like I get it we like to joke here but in reality thats an actusl step we can take today to reduce the oligarch’s power and thats a good thing, Mark.
In the same way electing AOC is maybe, as in, not at all.
So you think we should say fuck it, leave the legalized bribery, its not worth doing anything if its not the complete destruction of capitalism? Is that a bit? Lmao
Lots of actual tangible steps and organizing to be done but getting SCOTUS to overturn citizen’s united won’t accomplish a damn thing.
Why do you think that?
Same reason Democratic Party entryism is a dead end, citizens united miraculously going away doesn’t alter the fundamentals, we are living under the dictatorship of capital and every single arm of state power serves it, not us.
Okay but is it better if corporations can donate millions to their preferred agenda conforming candidates? Cause thats a massive issue in any supposedly democratic system. It matters to me cause anarchy and democracy are two sides of the same feather.
If you’re an anarchist why are you invoking a statist argument like “we must get the state to reverse its own court decision, then things will be better”?
It’s weird because I’m a Marxist-Leninist, the kindest thing I’d expect to be called by an anarchist is “statist” but the roles are weirdly reversed here.
My bottom line is the US does not magically become more democratic if you repeal citizens united. What you actually need to do is organize dual power wherever you can, and anti-imperialism is priority one