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InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net to politics@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

Biden lost 4% net approval in just the last week according to 538's polling average.

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Biden lost 4% net approval in just the last week according to 538's polling average.

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InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net to politics@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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      …these people are indistinguishable from Trumpers. Democrats and Republicans are identical lmao. This is embarrassing.

      Because they’re all libs. Demlibs, replibs, same libs.

      You can translate the behaviour and tactics of the republicans leftwards to the dems. They have an analog for everything.

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        They really are and pointing this out gets you labelled as naive and unaware of how politics work

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      brump Blue MAGA Jack

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      Would love to see the day these people finally lose their stupid “country” and have to stammer out a reason to keep it but cant find any. Democrats are a case study in how to mythologize a party based on literally nothing - just distracting accusations and comparison to the enemy to give them some vestigial “purpose” so as not to instantly die. Theyre dead already. Look at their blank HOA eyes

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      How have they never been polled? Every election season I get like 5 calls a day for my opinions on whatever.

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        Probably live in big “stronghold” states?

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          Might be a population density thing? Because I live in Texas.

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            Could be both, I’m in a densely populated state but it’s overwhelmingly blue and the elections are always chalk.

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      Blue MAGA rise up!

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      (blaze your glory)

      Goin’ down… in a blaze of glory

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        But the way the sentence is phrased means it’s not even the glory that is blazing, it’s me. I am the blazer of glories. I am the one who blazes, Skyler. How does that make any freaking sense?

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      Tbf, polls are more unreliable. But that works both ways lol

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    I don’t know how much these polls mean. Probably not much, but the malding libs cope ing over this in that thread is hilarious michael-laugh

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        This is such a good impression of a vapid lib.

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        Is this a parody or serious?

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          If they’re not from hexbear or lemmygrad they don’t understand bits

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            I’ve seen like 6 lemmy.ee good bits too

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        Hilarious bit comrade rat-salute-2

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        why did we remove it I want to laugh

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          I checked the modlog. They made a homophobic comment in order to imply that i am a supporter of the president of the Russian Federation, because i was mocking libs freaking out about poll numbers

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            • the person that makes weird homophobic comments when criticized
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            Stay mad 💋

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            The issue isn’t criticism. We don’t tolerate homophoboia or ableism.

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            Die

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    death to poly sci students

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      Hey now, some of us do actual Marxist Political Economy. We’re not all soulless number wizards, or bootlicking freaks trying to become alphabet boys

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        i have a poli sci degree help me. how did you get so cool.

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          Political Economy is what people like Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Marx and many others engaged in attempting to explain the way economy works and functions in society. “Economics” as it’s practiced now is kind of a bastardization of it meant to strip moral questions out of the picture and use bs models to say whatever the capitalists want to say. If you want to know I’d say start by reading a summary of the ideas of Smith Ricardo and Marx (something like Marx’s wage labor and capital might be good). I wouldn’t start by trying to read Das Kapital itself. Marxist political economy would be people picking up that tradition and following on from Marx. Lenin’s analysis of Imperialism is adjacent to this.

          In terms of modern writers I’m not sure if something like Pickettys Capital in the 21st Century would count, I haven’t read it and not sure if he’s a Marxist. Michael Hudson has good modern analysis as well.

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              Liberal economics is not a science but based on bad philosophy and assumptions about human psychology, dreamt up by “economists” with no background in psychology nor based on any empirical research, which have never been demonstrated in practice. Not only aren’t they demonstrated, but they build mathematical models on top of these assumptions, but if the assumptions are meaningless, all the models are meaningless.

              If you point this out, they will tell you, “sure, these assumptions aren’t literally true, but they’re just approximate.” But in any rigorous science, if you approximate something, you’re expected to calculate your error bars, so you can have an idea of just how approximate it is. If you don’t, then for all you know, the error bars can be so big it has no relation to the real world. No liberal economist can tell you any way to actually determine how inaccurate their assumptions are, so you end up with a lot of maths, but none of it points back to anything real.

              Conveniently, though, their maths just so happen to always work out to prove the conclusions they started with: free markets are inherently good, state controls are inherently bad. They have never updated their theories after witnessing their complete failure in eastern Europe, they in fact try to rewrite history to pretend like it was state controls that destroyed Russia’s economy and free market anarchy that saved China’s, which, as this video shows, the most basic overview of the facts shows to be the exact opposite of what happened.

              —aimixin

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              Two economists are walking in the park. The first economist sees a pile of dog shit and says to the other, “I’ll pay you $50 to eat that dog shit.” So he does and gets paid $50. Later on, the second economist sees a pile of dog shit and says to the first, “I’ll pay you $50 to eat that pile of dog shit.” So he does and gets paid $50.

              The first economist says, “I can’t help but feel we just ate dog shit for nothing.” “Nonsense,” says the second economist, “We just contributed $100 to the economy.”

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              Here’s another quick little joke about the fault in modern economics https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-01-14

              Then there’s some other stuff like how modern economics assumes we have infinite resources and everyone is a rational actor. These days they’re being more “nuanced” in that they say they know these things are wrong, but they’re good for modelling

              There’s a field called “nowcasting” which is the field of determining wether were in a recession at this moment.

              Economics presents a lot of axioms and pretend these are built on absolute facts, when these things are neither so concrete as to be an axiom nor based on any real evidence.
              Things like inflation being bad and the way to go against it is to give poor people less money.

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              Somebody else may be able to explain it better but the way I see it. Smith, Marx etc were venturing to describe an economic system that was just coming into being at the time (capitalism) and as such spent a lot of time engaging with the history of economic organization. They do a lot of work to arrive at how this system works (like, coming up with the labor theory of value and things like that) but are always conscious that all they’re doing is describing a system which is the result of the collective choices humans have made as a result of a historical (and Marx says dialectical) process with awareness of the fact that we can continue to reorganize society and evolve along that same process. Marx especially worked on developing the theory of how such historical progress might be made.

              Economics, on the other hand, the way it’s taught and practiced now in capitalist society, takes this system as basically a law of nature. They talk about supply and demand curves like they’re describing the law of gravity. Some of the fundamental premises that all actors in the system are rational economic actors and that the market will self regulate to equilibrium and all this other stuff are basically false but taken for an almost religious truth. The whole industry of economics is set up to help capitalists make better decisions and predictions within this system using mathematical models with no mind paid toward whether these systems can and should be fundamentally reorganized to better meet the needs of society. They took the politics out of “political economy” to make a pseudo-mathematical discipline which they call economics. They mostly don’t content at all with Marx, they just pretend that his critique never existed. I’ve often thought of modern mainstream economists as fulfilling a role similar to the clergy in the old feudal system, existing to reinforce and justify the current order and the ruling class and propagate the ideology that benefits them. That may not be totally fair, I don’t want to say that economics is useless or that it doesn’t give us some good insight into how public policy can benefit people because obviously it does some of that too…. I’m kind of rambling, hope somebody else can jump in with a better or more concise explanation.

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              If you don’t mind, could you expand on this?

              Basically a bunch of French engineers started to develop an interest in the market theories that were going around in like 1890 and they started drawing weird curves and functions. Later they called it the “marginal revolution” and claimed to bring unbiased, rational, scientific thinking into economics. Of course this vibed well with neoliberalism, flash forward 100 years and now this shit is the ONLY economics we have left. Some math nerd in a terrible suit telling you you have to starve because “markets”.

              Here’s a major proponent: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Walras

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            In terms of modern writers I’m not sure if something like Pickettys Capital in the 21st Century would count, I haven’t read it and not sure if he’s a Marxist. Michael Hudson has good modern analysis as well.

            He’s not. A critique: https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/egalitarianisms-latest-foe-a-critical-review-of-thomas-pikettys-capital-in-the-twenty-first-century/ (And varoufakis’ is not what most people would consider a Marxist, and I don’t think that ‘egalitarianisms’ is marxist goal anyway)

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      uhh this typo really changes the meaning…

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        oh noooooooo!

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    The fact that the invisible president even registers on the approval scale is an accomplishment

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        i genuinely forget she’s your vice president on a regular basis lol

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        Who?

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        Substitute teacher president

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      It’s amazing that days will pass without any corporate press outlet mentioning Biden on the front page. Even Fox News refrains from mentioning him.

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        Would be cool if he did that, yeah

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        A president who did that would be incredibly visible. Certainly Biden isn’t.

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        bait

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        brump do you see me now Jack

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        Lmaooo

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        It’s so refreshing not waking up to new presidential news every day. What the president does has very little effect on your day to day life, politics shouldn’t be mixed up with entertainment.

        I’d happily take a boring president over the last administration… a day that the POTUS isn’t reduced to a dried bean salesman is a good day in my book.

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          “Why are all of these proles complaining about getting crushed by the prole crushing machine? Don’t they realize I’m trying to eat brunch? Why can’t they just be happy with getting slaughtered by the status quo so that people like me don’t have to think about anything unpleasant?”

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            Cute. Presidents making the news every day doesn’t mean they’re helping the common folk, but keep making your assumptions.

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              Clearly. We all know that. But, conversely, if a president did start helping the proles, they would be in the news constantly. Probably heavily maligned too.

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                You’re right, but I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen…

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                  Me either. Glad we got that out of the way. Now let me copy someone else’s comment from earlier in the thread, because I think it’s the point we’re all trying to make that you seem extremely unwilling to understand:

                  If the policy outcomes are the same either way, I don’t see why libs are so worked up over whether or not a president is boring.

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              you’re a stupid asshole

              Death to America

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          the privilege dripping from this comment is disgusting. shut the fuck up liberal

          Death to America

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          If the policy outcomes are the same either way, I don’t see why libs are so worked up over whether or not a president is boring.

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          This isn’t real, this is parody right?

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    He’ll lose alot more than that after the student loan payments start next month

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      Imagine if COVID got worse than it already is, and he tried to do mask mandates and shelter in place orders again. Libs heads would explode

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        He won’t. Both parties would rather see 10 million Americans die of covid than do another mask mandate, much less a lockdown.

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      I found one of those stickers on a shipping container in the middle of a forest. The BLM guys I was with don’t even know how the shipping container got there, much less who put a giant sticker on it.

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        I had to come back to your comment before I could make sense of it because I’m not an American and I was like “Huh… they were hanging out with a Black Lives Matter group in the middle of a forest? Weird flex but okay.”

        Then it finally clicked for me.

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          Bureau of Land Management. I made the same oopsy several times, in public too so it was extra funnies for me.

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      I had a big ol stack of those in my car because I was peeling them off the local gas pumps because I thought it was extra shitty that CHUDs were vandalizing the pumps and workers only making $10/hr had to deal with it. The way I figure, I’m just standing there while the tank fills, I could help a worker.

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        very based 07

        Death to America

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        Good work!

        This was such a shitty trend but I’m having fun applying it to things that Biden has actually done because I kinda want to fuel the conspiracy theories in the wider fediverse that we’re clandestine MAGAheads because we’re criticising Biden and we’re using Trumper symbolism to do it so… obviously we’re the same picture.

        I guess I’m playing to meta-irony here because those people who make these claims about Hexbear have nothing to base them on but vibes and I lowkey think that’s hilarious; they see progressives being criticised, and sometimes for the same reasons that reactionaries criticise them, so they instantly jump to the “must be a Trump supporter” conclusion because it feels the same to them. Blue MAGA outrage gives me life.

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          I do think it has some great meme potential. When an article about a band I like came out saying they were breaking up, I made an “I did that” meme for it and put it in a Facebook group where “we all act like boomers”.

          It’s like my Calvin peeing on 9/11 bumper sticker idea I’ve always had.

          Is he peeing on the memory of 9/11? Is he peeing on the fact that it happened? It’s up to the viewer to decide

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    Imagine approving of President Biden.

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    this is the most important election of our lifetime

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      until the next one

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    This is Putinist propaganda.

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    I blame Cornpop

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      He was a real bad dude

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    Wonder why

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    A certain type of people have the freetime and energy to follow these poll numbers and then whine about it on Twitter. It’s sure as hell not the workers they give lip service to

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    B-but Trump fixed the polls!

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    for what?

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      Probably the announcement that student loan payments are resuming.

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