• MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    15 days ago

    This stuff is why I hope that truly left political party forms soon. Imagine mailing this picture to households across the South with the caption “Democrats and Republicans fund this”

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      Never understood the adoption of the cross iconography. The fish makes much more sense to me.

      Especially the cross with a literal Jesus on it. I guess the reason is that the cross was the moment he absolved us off our sins? So his death is the moment we were freed from the burden of original sin.

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        My family tried to get me into religion, but I honestly can’t remember a single moment in my life where it didn’t sound anything but wildly crazy. We don’t believe in Roman, Greek, or Egyption Gods because they’re silly, but ours are totally real? Right.

        In the 60s, I was into the Gemini and Apollo space programs, and I remember asking my Dad why the astronauts didn’t see Heaven, and why wouldn’t they visit Heaven as long as they’re in the neighborhood? The “answers” were as unsatisfying as you can imagine, even to a 5 years old.

        I remember sitting in church, and looking at the crucifix, and wondering what type of a club uses the torture of their founder to be the symbol of their “LOVE?” Really fucking weird, especially to a kid.

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          All the weird stuff about Christianity makes more sense when you realize that it was born out of a collapsing Roman Empire. It bears all the markings and baggage of Roman fascism while hiding it behind the co-opted visage of the Christ figure.

          Christ didn’t die for the sins of man, he died for the sins of the Roman Empire.

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    Literally the least evil thing an idf soldier has ever done so it’s not surprising that this is what they investigate and set right.

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    Damn, but don’t they know he’s the president of the USA?

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    Do we know for certain that it’s a real photo and that it was taken recently? I’m not saying it’s fake but even the IDF would understand that smashing in the face of Jesus on the cross is a wee bit problematic.

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      IDF is mostly composed of religious extremists or people who hate Muslims and Christians (most christians in the region are palestinians and lebanese). Some former SLA (South Lebanese Army, a Far-Right Christian Lebanese Terrorist Group supported by Israel during the 1970s - 2000) members have said that the IDF are now also attacking Pro-SLA Villages because they don’t give a shit about having a puppet state anymore, they just want to destroy all villages and expel or kill the Lebanese Population.

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          The SLA had already lost a lot autonomy by 1984 (they started around 1975, and established the Free Lebanon State), I think Israel plan after the SLA Leader died of cancer in 1982 was to annex the entire region, but then Hezbollah and their allies (some conservative muslim militias, socialists and some other christians who didn’t like Israel) started to push Israel back a lot, by 1998 Israel had started to withdraw and leaving their positions for the SLA soldiers who immediatly went AWOL. By 2000 the entire “goverment” had collapsed with the most of their leaders and soldiers establishing a “goverment-in-exile” in Tel Aviv which is more or less just a weird LARPing group where they cry about Hezbollah, Saddam Hussein, Syria and Palestine.

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        While I would classify different Christian groups here as more strongly anti Zionist or more ambivalent, the SLA has no legacy in the form of “Pro-SLA” villages.

        Even among the Christians who think the Zionists are our long lost secret brothers, the SLA (just “Jeish Lahad, “Lahad’s Army”) are virtually universally considered disgusting bloodthirsty monsters, at least by the older generation. They don’t get talked about when you’re trying to indoctrinate your kids into believing Lebanon is an eternally Christian nation.

        Explicitly sectarian Christian nationalism here relies heavily on the aesthetics of “classy” Europeanness so it doesn’t really fit with it. The strongest case for this is the enduring hero-worship of Bachir, and the way he’s memorialized and aestheticized. Many of the better-off younger Christians who lean rightward don’t even know the SLA existed, while many Shia people grew up with stories of the SLA warcriming their relatives.

        Now there were a lot of reports in 2024 and a few this time of Christian leaders and villages in the south getting assurances that they will be safe, I don’t think this is necessarily the legacy of the SLA. Probably the enemy trying to PR something out of the Christian population to make the invasion easier. South of the Litani, the Christian and mixed villages were liberated by the Hezb in 2000, so the perception of where everyone feels they are in the conflict is complicated.

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      One of the exhausting things about Israel is they do stuff which when you describe it sounds like antisemitism. Like the accusations stealing organs from Palestinians.

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          Operation Cast Thy Bread was a top-secret biological warfare operation conducted by the Haganah and later the Israel Defense Forces that began in April 1948, during the 1948 Palestine war. The Haganah used typhoid bacteria to contaminate drinking water wells in violation of the 1925 Geneva Protocol. Its objective was to frighten and prevent Palestinian Arabs from returning to their captured villages and to make conditions difficult for Arab armies attempting to retake territories. The operation resulted in severe illness among local Palestinian citizens. In the final months of the war, the government of Israel gave orders to expand the biological warfare campaign into neighboring Arab states such as Egypt, Lebanon, and Syria, but they were not carried out. Israeli prime minister David Ben-Gurion and IDF chief of general staff Yigael Yadin oversaw and approved the use of biological warfare.

          https://en.natopedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cast_Thy_Bread

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      Israeli forces attack churchgoers on Easter Sunday in Occupied Palestine, not to mention sometimes bomb them, so I don’t think this is really much lower than what they already get away with

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    What a fitting symbol for the ontologically evil “state” that uses spiritual belief to protect itself