hello, I’m very exited, in about a week i got my appointment to get hrt. I doubt ill get it since at my age i need consent from both parents being in Australia and I’m only out to my mum.
Is there any tips on what i should say to maybe get hrt even though its doubtful ill be able to get it. If this does not work I’m going to do diy hrt probably.
Also if i dont get hrt and i probably wont I’m going to tell the doctor that this is not healthcare, its only restricting me from getting what i need. welp hopefully i get my estrogen.
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Much like WPATH and other serious organizations blåhaj firmly supports HRT for minors. All current research suggests that for those that need it it is everything from good to life saving.
In many cases people cannot safely pursue HRT with the aid of a doctor, or the care that they receive does not follow proper guidelines. We often receive doses that are simply too low or even too high at times when it comes to certain blockers. Given that puberty is permanent and can cause trauma and harm, and given that HRT is life saving, we fully support DIY.
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Ok, I see I’m late to the party.
Hehe too bad. 😄 BTW is your profile picture… female Tintin??
Yeah
That’s cool!
I didn’t draw it.
That’s still cool. 😋
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Ive done plenty of reading and research on DIY, I probably wont be able to do it anyway as I have nowhere to deliver the hrt to that wont get me caught. I’m going to do what I’m going to do, and on that note I think people should be trying to make diy safer, more about reducing the risks if we do end up doing it rather than just telling people no. Because like i said, I’m going to do what I’m going to do, and that does not just go with me.
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Under 18 are on hormones all the time, it’s called puberty.
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Why is it fine for trans youth to have the wrong hormones but having the right hormones is somehow a bad thing?
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There is no biological reason to choose 18 as a cut-off. It is entirely a product of how our societies are structured. Without that specific structure where 18 is considered legal maturity that age would not be chosen as a cut-off.
As such this is not a medically motivated recommendation, but a legally motivated one. And as such this recommendation is not in the patient’s best medical interest. It’s the medical professionals covering their asses.
It’s medical malpractice.
…What am I reading in a freaking transfem online space?? Is this for real? Are you serious?
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thats a very harmful take imo
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going through the wrong puberty is traumatic
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Why should we force trans youth to go through puberty when they don’t have to? Unnecessary trauma. So many trans people wish they could have started when they were teenagers
Being trans, they already have enough of a tough road ahead of them. Why make it any harder than it has to be?
What the hell. Please think about your gate keeping and how massively harmful such gate keeping is.
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DIY should be a last resort.
Which is exactly wjat OP is doing, so I guess you can be happy?
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I disagree. A minor could and should resort to DIY HRT if their doctor is not giving them a proper dosage, or not giving them E2 at all. This is provided that the minor has done their research, and ideally, is supported by a local trans group, etc. To put yourself in danger with E2, you’d have to screw really, really badly. Some ways of getting E2 into your body like gel, spray or pills are probably a better idea for a minor than the scarier injections which require a slightly higher level of knowledge. And it’s probably easier to get the dosage wrong with injections.
I would argue it’s probably easier to get the doses wrong with oral or transdermal than injections. DIY oral pills aren’t really a thing beyond ordering from overseas pharmacies. So it’s either oral tinctures, transdermal creams, or injections. Injections seem a lot more precise, and the dose response is much more predictable. Transdermal has hugely variable skin absorption, and oral has to get variably processed by the liver and kidneys. But injections skip all that and are fully absorbed.
Oral I agree kinda sucks anyway. I actually meant overdosing rather than getting the dose wrong. I feel you see many more people messing up their dosage with injections (“oops I misread and injected ten times the volume”) than with gel (you don’t read “oops I applied ten times more doses on my thighs” very often). But in general, I think injections are definitely the way to go for someone who won’t be overwhelmed by the steps and is careful. And for adults they’re definitely the best route of administration. Just maybe not the most practical and easy thing for a teenager who has to do HRT in secret. :)
Yeah, you’re right. Like, I come from a STEM background. Simple volume concentration calcs are trivial to me. But yeah, often it’s hard to step back out of your own experience. If people aren’t comfortable with that or with volumetric measuring…it gets hard. I think it’s not so difficult to learn. Just about anyone can learn how to do injections safely, but people don’t always have access to good information or training. And yeah, it gets even more complicated for minors.
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Oh yeah, so minors trans people are going to block their puberty until 18? That’s ridiculous. Blockers don’t exist to wait until majority, they exist to give time for teenage trans people to decide whether they want to do HRT. And that wait time shouldn’t be years. The less time is spent blocking puberty, the better it is.
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As long as you’re responsible, it’s better to be on any HRT at a young age than to delay and risk irreversible changes
