i mean this as a genuine clarification question, but why is this a controversial take? “socialization by way of violent unjust hierarchy that privileges men is why men tend to be more violent” seems like pretty clearly correct materialist analysis. i think the more positive inverse of what you’re saying is true too: if we broke down the hierarchies of patriarchy, capitalism, and white supremacy, we would overall see a more peaceful, gentle, empathetic species across identity lines.
am i misunderstanding your statement? or is this more of a “yeah i think this is intuitively correct, but one of those things that hexbear has kind of a silly kneejerk blindspot around so i tend to play it cool in this particular online social environment” kind of situation?
I’m just hesitant to make the argument because it’s pretty often that “women are less violent” or “women are less criminal” comes up and it always feels like there’s a biological implication to that when I lean much more into believing it’s socialisation. I am nervous that it will upset someone that leans into the idea that it’s inherent more than social and to be frank I don’t even think it’s worth arguing or getting upset over. I’m not really that attached to it ending up one way or the other but rather simply saying what I believe.
word, i think your leanings are correct. i’m just surprised “patriarchal conditioning is why men are more violent” would be a potentially controversial stance on a loosely-Marxist forum. but hexbear has surprised me before.
i mean this as a genuine clarification question, but why is this a controversial take? “socialization by way of violent unjust hierarchy that privileges men is why men tend to be more violent” seems like pretty clearly correct materialist analysis. i think the more positive inverse of what you’re saying is true too: if we broke down the hierarchies of patriarchy, capitalism, and white supremacy, we would overall see a more peaceful, gentle, empathetic species across identity lines.
am i misunderstanding your statement? or is this more of a “yeah i think this is intuitively correct, but one of those things that hexbear has kind of a silly kneejerk blindspot around so i tend to play it cool in this particular online social environment” kind of situation?
I’m just hesitant to make the argument because it’s pretty often that “women are less violent” or “women are less criminal” comes up and it always feels like there’s a biological implication to that when I lean much more into believing it’s socialisation. I am nervous that it will upset someone that leans into the idea that it’s inherent more than social and to be frank I don’t even think it’s worth arguing or getting upset over. I’m not really that attached to it ending up one way or the other but rather simply saying what I believe.
word, i think your leanings are correct. i’m just surprised “patriarchal conditioning is why men are more violent” would be a potentially controversial stance on a loosely-Marxist forum. but hexbear has surprised me before.