Feels like covid in late 2019/early 2020. I’m half expecting to read some Reddit post from some guy in a major city saying that he has some weird cold and his doctor told him not to go outside but he’s unable to test so he’s unsure what it is. Of course I said the same thing about bird flu last year and that has yet to pop off. The difference of course being that hantavirus has confirmed human-to-human transmission, bird flu never did.
Thoughts? Are you preparing for covid 2? Think it’ll fizzle out?
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Probably a flareup of our collective “OH SHIT ANOTHER PANDEMIC” reflex that everyone born before 2017 will have until they die now
I’m mainly primed to worry about pandemics due to how the west handled the last one, not so much the concept of a pandemic in and of itself. Also RFK has been doing ducky shit with birdflu management
I’m not traumatized
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The lackluster COVID response has had me ready for anything to pop off for ages. COVID round X, big seasonal flu, swine flu, bird flu, monkeypox, measles… The neoliberal capitalists that run the world are speedrunning multiple apocalypsi and can just run for their bunkers. We are living under a death cult that actively wants the proles to die off so they can have the future to themselves.
(or they’re mad that not enough folks are having kids because they want more serfs; this is what no consistent ideology does)
speedrunning multiple apocalypsi
We call that the Jackpot.
You seen the video of that one Cruise ship influencer on board who’s crying and using therapy-language to demand being let back on shore? I don’t even know what words to describe that mindset.
And apparently they are being let back on shore? Instead of kept on the floating quarantine vessel? Absolutely dementedI haven’t seen it, do you have a link?
I hate therapy speak. I remember when I first learned it my freshman year of college, I was being manipulative as fuck with it without even realizing it, I was a dumb teenager. But after my last relationship, being manipulated with it for years, I avoid therapy talk like the fucking plague. I can talk about my emotions like a normal person, and I won’t talk to anybody that can’t do that
These things usually fizzle out, and this was caught extremely early, with only one confirmed human to human transmission so far.
Even if it does become another pandemic, you have months before you need to care. Think about how long there was between December 2019 and covid first affecting you. If it’s on the way to being another pandemic, it will become very, very obvious during that time.
The cruise industry should be banned of course.
Think about how long there was between December 2019 and covid first affecting you.
one month?
unless you mean how long until i personally got infected (over three years), but yeah, by late January everything was closing down, masking was mandatory and streets were empty
Dang, speedy! It was March for me.
Personally, COVID affected me very quickly because the majority of my family is in Wuhan and I was supposed to go in Jan for Spring Festival.
Yeah, I should’ve said to rearrange the world as appropriate for your personal proximity to the start of covid vs this outbreak.
Its freaky for sure but too soon to panic. I would watch it closely and reassess in a couple of weeks. If it starts ramping up it’ll leak on social media. I think if we see multiple clusters it’ll be time to panic. There was a lady that traveled on a flight to joburg that collapsed on arrival. If this thing is bad we will know real quick based on what happens to the people that were on that plane.
I don’t think it’s gonna be a pandemic, yet… The sicker and more vulnerable folks get, the closer to the edge we get of another one though.
The difference of course being that hantavirus has confirmed human-to-human transmission, bird flu never did.
Didn’t have sustained h2h transmission. The cdc had a number of h2h cases but nothing was able to reach epidemic levels. As I understand it h5n1 human to human outbreak is inevitable, but not imminent. Or at least as of last year. Who knows where things are at now with everything hidden from us.
Speaking of, monkeypox is still out there but doesn’t show in wastewater too well. So that’s another big question mark.
3 different potential epi/pandemics yayyyy
lol. Sure, we can pretend that’s it.
I assume this is a “theres way more than just 3 lmao” reply?
Lol ya. Another bird flu, maybe a swine flu. Plus, covid hampering people’s immune system has led to an increase in a bunch of illnesses across the board. Viral, bacteria, fungus. And then there’s our good friend Captain
and the anti-science/pro-eugenics crew. Oh, and climate change! 
What’s up with the super MRSA from Indian pharmaceutical factory workers? That’s a developing situation too right?
oh shit, no clue. But good point, we gotta add antibiotic resistance to the doom list.
Awesome
You could crosspost in c/doomer. This comm has 1k subscribers.
Thoughts?
None yet. I know it’s confirmed human-to-human but I haven’t googled. At the top of the hour I’ll see if CNN or MS NOW has mentioned it. I’m nearly 100% certain they won’t. A few deaths on a cruise ship isn’t titillating enough for them. It’s sensationalism or nothing.
Edit 1. I failed to do my assignment at the top of the hour. I got distracted by this Youtube vid of an odd British children’s book: The Old Woman and her Pig by Ladybird Books.
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Edit 2. If the info in this 11 post Bluesky thread is accurate - I’m not concerned.
11/ Bottom line: This is not Covid-19. This is a serious and very unique outbreak that doesn’t have a playbook. Things are moving quickly but this virus is acting like we expect it to. The W.H.O says this is still a low risk situation. I’ll be back with an update as this evolves.
https://skywriter.blue/@ylepidemiologist.bsky.social/3ml7hcow55c2x
pretty awesome stuff, used to be pretty hard to get it due to the infection vector, now we’ve got some grains of suspected human-human transmissions! i mean it’s really remarkable a relatively rare disease with low industry incentives to not take seriously managed it.
real talk though the outbreak came pre-quarantined on a boat you don’t really get a better opportunity to deal with something like this safely. it didn’t even infect many people on the boat.
real talk though the outbreak came pre-quarantined on a boat you don’t really get a better opportunity to deal with something like this safely. it didn’t even infect many people on the boat.
And somehow they managed to fuck it up. Sent people home. Spread it to outside the ship
they know who was on the boat and have a pretty easy way to track them down, it’s a lot different from covid where heaps of "patient zero"s were untracable and investigated months after the epidemic had started
The big issue is that the disease has a long incubation period, the people who left the boat have had a lot of time to interact with others and at that point who knows what happens next. It’s not so much tracking people down, now that the damage is done
well no the ‘damage’ is not done in the same way, there’s a lot of work involved but it’s quite possible to trace where these people went and alert local health authorities and the people they interacted with. compared to covid, where it isn’t even yet agreed where it came from, this is a much smaller heap of work.
eh - some people are getting real antsy about it, but feels on par with how people were antsy about monkeypox.
i suppose it is just me feeling tired - but i think it is probably a nothingburger
mice in the US high desert have hanta. or so i was told. it made us all leery of seeing mouse turds. before that i was pretty brazen about moving around into old storage spaces. this was like “middle of nowhere, turn left” type shit.
so like 20 minutes of waiting for someone to get the one “working” car and then 30 minutes of crazy haul ass to get to some underfunded rural clinic where maybe somebody has gotten enough cell service to call ahead to have an ambo to take you the next 40 minutes to an underfunded rural hospital.
so we were all nuts in some way, but everybody had their “fuck that” boundary. mine was heights and messing with exposed electrical wiring. still is. i saw this guy throw sparks all over a breaker box he had installed by absent-mindedly gesturing at it too closely with a screw driver. he just laughed it off like the fucking joker. but he wouldn’t go near any animal, even obviously domesticated and chill ones.
i don’t live anywhere near where people casually travel to, so i’m gonna hold off on getting the heebie-jeebies. i’m still prepping for fuel shocks, tbh. maybe if the cost of fuel gets too high, people will stop spreading everything around all the damn time.
any desert can be the high desert
thoughts?
I have none. It’s not going to become a pandemic.
I said the same thing in 2019
Everytime I cough out a long after a bong rip I’m thinking I have hantavirus.
that’s the bongtavirus
Mickey mouse passing the bong while coughing like “Gee, Lussy, I’m not sick. I swear I’m good cuz.”
How contagious is it? What’s the transmission vector? I could probably look these up, but my break is almost over.
Edit: saliva, urine, feces. Transmission between humans requires prolonged contact. Unless there’s a significant mutation it doesn’t sound like epidemic material.
This. The only way for it to become a pandemic is through significant mutation that affects transmission mechanisms, and so far I haven’t seen any evidence of this.
So far it’s a single incident from an obvious source so I’m not too concerned. The news I’m seeing is that three people were evacuated (likely to receive treatment somewhere that isn’t a floating morgue) and the rest are still effectively quarantined since they’re not being allowed to dock in the Canary Islands.
Twenty‑three passengers from the MV Hondius have been on land for more than two weeks. They disembarked on April 21 on the island of Saint Helena, 10 days after the first death on board, and began their journeys home.
Interesting, I was going off an Al Jazeera article that had the following passage:
The Canary Islands, an autonomous region of Spain, have refused to allow the luxury cruise ship experiencing the outbreak to dock at any of its ports, despite the Spanish government saying it would be permitted to do so.
Maybe they only recently stopped allowing them to dock?
docked before that in Saint Helena afaik
They sent 12 asymptomatic passengers home. One of those infected a french national while on board the plane.
They definitely have been allowed to dock in the Canary Islands, at the very least unloading part of the crew/passengers. I saw it on Spanish news yesterday.
