• P00ptart@lemmy.world
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      I can’t see SpaceX not getting nationalized in 6-10 years, assuming we make it that long.

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        If the American gov wouldn’t be insane, integrating space X into NASA would be an enormous benefit to humanity in general.

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        SpaceX was built up to not be a government agency. They have received many subsidies that could have been spent on NASA. The US had decided to privatize their space industry. Why should they undo it?

        E.g. Starlink in Ukraine is just a private company. It’s not an official involvement of the US in the war.

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      I think midrange investors, upper middle class people with investments, have more to worry about.

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      Have you seen people migrate in huge numbers from X to mastodon or Reddit to Lemmy? The oligarchs in the US are fully in control. People crave Capitalism.

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        and that can change over night. Seriously media is powerful, but it is pretty easy to have a billionaire thrown into say Guantanamo and tortured until he signs over his wealth or at least most of it. That is sort of what China does and it seems to work.

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          That is sort of what China does and it seems to work.

          Do you think that’s possible in the US?

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          Each of them wants to be a monopolist.

          The monopolies, that is Capitalism. Free markets with competition is not Capitalism because then people with capital don’t have much power.

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            You can see it that way, but most billionaires we have today aren’t monopolitsts but are completely beyond the reach of the law and buy out governments.

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            you’re conflating capitalism with plutocracy.

            And yeah, capitalism will lead to plutocracy if left unchecked, but they’re not the same thing.

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              capitalism will lead to plutocracy if left unchecked

              But is it Capitalism if it is checked? If something stands above capitalism and controls it, then that is the governing philosophy and deserves the -ism, not capital.

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                If something stands above capitalism and controls it, then that is the governing philosophy and deserves the -ism, not capital.

                capitalism isn’t a form of governance it’s an economic system.

                Democracy is a form of governance, so is plutocracy, or monarchy, or aristocracy.

                Many different forms of governance can structure their economy using capitalism.

                But a capitalist economy will always push the current form government towards plutocracy