yeah i guess that this is targeted against these low-effort “we’ll just wing it when it comes to it” anarchist takes. like, a system will obviously just work fine and run itself once that the “greedy governing classes” will put their hands off the system.
many people really put close to zero thought into how an anarchist society could function, and it shows. that’s why these kind of memes even exist. if we had actual high-quality discourse available instead of just “well, it’s just gonna work, trust me bro”, we wouldn’t have these memes.
Sorry, but I’m the interest of being brief, I’d say you’re being victim-blamey. I bet your intentions are good, but we’re taught to think in this toxic way:
“If all anarchists had good takes, {others wouldn’t attack them}.”
“If baby anarchists never spoke until fully fledged, [we wouldn’t have this problem].”
“If she didn’t buy a taser and get self defense training, <she shouldn’t dress like that>.”
Yeah, no. When someone attacks, keep your attention on the attacker.
Yeah feels like bait. Post something unfunny, tell people who point out it’s not funny that they need to lighten up and learn to take a joke. Momentarily replace feelings of emptiness with feelings of smugness and superiority.
Something about baby anarchists who get the spiritual lessons but stubbornly refuse to engage with the complexity of the world and try to naively derive practices straight from theory which end up laughably ineffective. In contrast, once it truly sinks in how fucked and complicated the world is and how powerless your faction is your political practice starts looking more “normal” ™️, but you harbor no ill will against the enthusiastic baby anarchists and sort of envy their lifestyle.
Might be wrong, can’t read OPs mind. But somehow it doesn’t feel mean-spirited.
I see how you could read a version of this post that wasn’t mean spirited, as you describe.
But this specific post, doesn’t do that good-will commentary that you describe.
They’re not pet-baby-anarchists, they’re pet anarchists.
The examples it’s using, are not the real problems one has, when first starting to get out of authoritarianism (inner cops we all have in us), they’re fucking production problems, which are
trivially
easy to answer
and reconstruct in good faith, it just takes time to explain, because we live in nested systems of violence, and have been bullied to think that that’s reality.
This post relies on you assuming:
decentralized production is stupid,
in order to, by extension, say that
anarchists are stupid.
In this way, anyone who has suspicions about one of the two maybe being true, can be convinced that both are true.
collecting pharmaceuticals from bushes is all fun and fine until you need insulin. turns out that a large part of today’s medicine actually comes from genetically modified organisms that grow in petri dishes and require complex set-ups to grow and be harvested successfully. good luck doing all of that in your garden.
Not gonna lie, this feels disingenuous.
It’s just political bait disguised as a “meme”.
It doesn’t even contain any good discourse about anarchism, just tired tropes of infantilisation.
Eh, why even post this?
yeah i guess that this is targeted against these low-effort “we’ll just wing it when it comes to it” anarchist takes. like, a system will obviously just work fine and run itself once that the “greedy governing classes” will put their hands off the system.
many people really put close to zero thought into how an anarchist society could function, and it shows. that’s why these kind of memes even exist. if we had actual high-quality discourse available instead of just “well, it’s just gonna work, trust me bro”, we wouldn’t have these memes.
Sorry, but I’m the interest of being brief, I’d say you’re being victim-blamey. I bet your intentions are good, but we’re taught to think in this toxic way:
“If all anarchists had good takes, {others wouldn’t attack them}.”
“If baby anarchists never spoke until fully fledged, [we wouldn’t have this problem].”
“If she didn’t buy a taser and get self defense training, <she shouldn’t dress like that>.”
Yeah, no. When someone attacks, keep your attention on the attacker.
Yeah feels like bait. Post something unfunny, tell people who point out it’s not funny that they need to lighten up and learn to take a joke. Momentarily replace feelings of emptiness with feelings of smugness and superiority.
Because anti leftist Propaganda doesnt make itself, you know?
Disagree, I think there’s something there.
Something about baby anarchists who get the spiritual lessons but stubbornly refuse to engage with the complexity of the world and try to naively derive practices straight from theory which end up laughably ineffective. In contrast, once it truly sinks in how fucked and complicated the world is and how powerless your faction is your political practice starts looking more “normal” ™️, but you harbor no ill will against the enthusiastic baby anarchists and sort of envy their lifestyle.
Might be wrong, can’t read OPs mind. But somehow it doesn’t feel mean-spirited.
I see how you could read a version of this post that wasn’t mean spirited, as you describe.
But this specific post, doesn’t do that good-will commentary that you describe.
They’re not pet-baby-anarchists, they’re pet anarchists.
The examples it’s using, are not the real problems one has, when first starting to get out of authoritarianism (inner cops we all have in us), they’re fucking production problems, which are
trivially
easy to answer and reconstruct in good faith, it just takes time to explain, because we live in nested systems of violence, and have been bullied to think that that’s reality.
This post relies on you assuming:
in order to, by extension, say that
In this way, anyone who has suspicions about one of the two maybe being true, can be convinced that both are true.
Textbook fascistic propaganda methods, literally out of Nazi Minister of Propaganda’s playbook.
It’s using a strawman of anarchism which essentially equates it with anarcho primitivism. Those are two different things for a reason.
Hey, it specifies solarpunk. The fellas have at least solar panels in there. And they know how to use pharamaceuticals.
I’ll grant that gathering medication in the bushes is a little on the nose.
Hey, idk, maybe the “bushes” are Psychotria viridis, and there just so happen to be some Banisteriopsis caapi vines nearby…
collecting pharmaceuticals from bushes is all fun and fine until you need insulin. turns out that a large part of today’s medicine actually comes from genetically modified organisms that grow in petri dishes and require complex set-ups to grow and be harvested successfully. good luck doing all of that in your garden.
🤔
It’s paternalistic, all right, but that’s something different. I have a toddler, I should know.