i love my country deeply but it doesnt love me in terms of my beliefs. i often consider leaving the NATO aligned world

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        My ancestors used to reside on that border, location depending on the time of year because that’s how they lived back then. Then the Europeans came and drew their line and my ancestors said “fuck it” and smuggled shit across said border because we had family on both sides.

    • Would you say this too about the doctors in Cuba enduring poverty conditions, blackouts, and studying hard all their lives to treat their compatriots even during the blockade, when they could move to another country and make literally 10 times as much while also helping patients there? I think this patriotism in Cuba is saving hundreds of thousands of lives.

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        Yes, I would. If not for the artificial hardship imposed mainly by US sanctions, they would not need to endure blackouts and poverty in addition to the natural hardship of studying hard for that position. I don’t think it is patriotism driving doctors anywhere on the planet, but rather a strong love for their neighbor.

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            That depends on if you’re talking about a theoretical world without borders or the world as it exists today.

            In a theoretical world without borders, yes.

            In the world as it exists today, it’s more complicated than that since the artificially-imposed hardships do still exist.

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                    I think due to artificially imposed hardships (in the case of Cuba, namely economic sanctions and active attempts at sabotage by the US government), the moral question is more difficult to answer, since citizens of one country have more privilege compared to citizens of a country with less fortune/global power. In terms of morality, it is more moral to treat those who are less fortunate, but at the same time, it is far from immoral to treat those with fortune, so long as you are not ignoring the less forunate.

                    I don’t think there is a clear answer in a society where power structures exist, of which our current global societal structure is certainly included.

                    I was able to answer the question more easilly when applied to a theoretical classless society, but I don’t think I can definitively answer that kind of philisophical question applied to our current society.