• RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I don’t understand liberal logic. When the Soviets invaded Poland alongside the Nazis, it was done out of desperation because the west rejected the Soviets’ requests of alliance prior to the war. Sure, one can denounce the entire USSR because they worked with the Nazis.

    But those same people who denounce it will move heaven and earth to excuse countries, armies, militias, volunteers, etc. who fought alongside Nazis, or are Nazis themselves - original or neo - out of ideological agreement.

    Grinding your teeth and pragmatically working with people who want to commit genocide against you = forever evil, no nuance

    Happily sieg heiling, committing and supporting perpetrators of massacres that even Nazis tug their collars to, and having so many Nazi symbols in your movement that your own supporters have to remove footage of and apologize for: based, psychological warfare, simply nationalism

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      1 year ago

      Recipe for a liberal thought:

      1. Take an ideal, like “democracy” for example.

      2. Bastardize it into pure simulacrum. (i.e., Ukraine getting couped and banning most political parties etc. is democracy)

      3. Apply the bastardized ideal to create how one “thinks” things should be. (i.e., Democracy should win so Ukraine should win)

      4. Warp reality to that idealistic goal. (i.e. Nazis fighting for our side is good because they’re fighting for democracy. Or even, they’re not Nazis because they’re fighting for democracy - those are pagan runes.)

      In this way, the liberal is always right because they have Good™️ morals and anything that achieves their goals becomes Good™️. For the same reason, any alliance between the Nazis and USSR is bad because they’re doing an authoritarianism and authoritarianism is bad.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Take an ideal, like “democracy” for example.

        Bastardize it into pure simulacrum. (i.e., Ukraine getting couped and banning most political parties etc. is democracy)

        for example: rules based international order means doing whatever America wants