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They should just tell their daddies to make another film. Please daddy please! 20 million dollars is still 12 million dollars after taxes!

Job is listed as remote

During interview they tell you they expect you to move to bumfuck north dakota within 6 months of starting

Take home assignments that take multiple hours sometimes, sacrificing a whole evening.

Do NOT do this.

Taking a live proficiency test is one thing, particularly if you’re applying for more senior roles, but doing actual projects for free in your spare time should be a hard pass. Full stop.

Don’t forget the tech listings that require 5 years experience in a particular programming language when the language has only even existed for the past 2 years…

Catch-22 situations, where it’s impossible to meet the qualifications. 🤦‍♂️

Jesus Christ you just described my life for the last six months.

I feel like these are the real issues - I can’t tell how much of OP is meant to be a joke … “You forget to check the website and you miss the time”. I mean, that’s on you. Also it’s often easy to blag the magic words an interviewer wants to hear, the real danger is that the job is NOT as advertised.

The number of interviews I used to sit in on, and wonder WTF the interviewer was thinking… One asked a service designer “if you were a type of cake, what would you be?”

What should I be using then?

Except indeed has replaced every job listing and recruitment. Even the “top” recruiting firms now are doing all their work on indeed.

At my last job I got sick of the management so I just did easy apply to like 50 jobs that were suitable as they came up. Actually got my current job from it. Unfortunately probably won’t happen now since there are like 20k laid off people looking in my field.

That’s terrible, I hope it all worked out, but absolutely never say anything until you’ve both signed a contract unless you’re looking for a counter offer, which is risky AF.

People pull out of informal agreements all the time, it’s not an employer thing - legal issues, real estate, appointments, competition prizes, dates…

Yeah that’s why I hold off on turning down other offers until the last possible moment when I know 100% the new gig is locked down. Then you inform them as gently and kindly as possible to leave the door open if it doesn’t work out. Usually the good ones won’t take it personally and are open to working together in the future if you decide to leave.

Was scared of the same thing happening to me, was ghosted for 2 MONTHS and was about to start at a different place when they finally reached back with a bunch of excuses. The same company says they desperately need more workers lol

That and/or, “I’m such a raging asshole that I’ve created a terrible, toxic environment and everybody always quits.”

“No one wants to work anymore”

Yeah, Karen. No one wants to work in the first place. You think you deserve employees who will accept crackers as payment for the joy and excitement of generating value for a company so you don’t have to?

Pro tip: for the workday applications with the manual forms, I have a separate file I upload without formatting that perfectly fills out the forms in the fields they want, then I upload a formatted resume.

Cpoy and paste if you can and you need to

You do good work, keep it up. Oh and also, blockquotes are useful for distinguishing quoted text. I hope this makes your life a little easier

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Posts on lemmy and and a lot of other places support markdown. Its really handy.

It’s so, so frustrating that so many places require a job to be posted even when there’s an internal candidate and it’s already been decided. I work in government where we’re often hard-required to post all jobs and it sucks to see so many people applying for a job when I know they absolutely will not be considered for the role.

In my experience, a majority of job postings are essentially fake because it’s already been decided, and I hate it.

You can’t set reminders if you never knew the interview existed. It’s still their fault, but it’s an easy mistake to make.

but it’s so rare for you to receive any response that you forget to check the website

I read it differently. It’s an ambience. The author is not taking off actual interviews being scheduled.

Rather, replies to your applications are so few that you end up getting frustrated. Because of that, in the long run, you forget checking the website. Now, if in the meanwhile you get a reply, nobody’s home to receive it.

You miss it not because you’re lazy or careless, but because you’re human and there’s so much you can do to keep hoping.

not really the main point or any reason to dismiss the whole thing. we aren’t playthings for corporations, the whole interviewing facade where we’re supposed to be dutiful and perfect and company-fearing is dumb

Did you misread the second paragraph?

This has happened to me and there’s some confusion in the comments so I’ll attempt to clarify here, it’s not missing an interview in the way we’re perceiving it. What happens is;

On indeed, you can pre-fill out an application and “quick apply” to most jobs, and that’s the entire application process for that job. If you’re accepted for an interview, they will message you on the indeed app or maybe via email.

But many of the jobs you can apply to on indeed don’t accept quick apply and instead direct you to their website, where you apply again, and from then on must log into their site frequently checking back for responses, potential invites to interviews, recommendations for other openings etc.

So they’re not missing an interview they’ve been notified about, they’re missing the notification of an upcoming interview because they didn’t check the site that notified them.

Is that still on them? Yeah, technically. But many, many sites are now doing this on indeed. Back when I was applying it didn’t take me long to be signed up for indeed + DG + Walmart+ Amazon + UPS etc etc.

I’m sure I’m signed up to at least 50 different sites. 99% of those sites will never notify me of anything aside from other job openings.

So you get forgetful sometimes, checking 50 sites a day can do that to you.

Then one of them offers you an interview on their site, but you only checked 40 sites today and spent the rest of your time mass quick applying to 100 new jobs instead of checking the remaining 10 sites that had a .001% chance of actually offering you a job anyway.

I mean, yeah, the blame is still on them. If you’re in desperate need of a job with nothing else going on then you should be religiously checking every site you’re signed up with. However, I can see forgetting to check one or two as well because there are a fucking lot and it’s a lot to remember.

I remember hating to apply to jobs that required me to use their site so, so badly, because they ALREADY had my application from indeed but instead of just using that app they want me to arbitrarily sign up for their site instead, that’s likely much more of a hassle than indeed, and add ANOTHER fucking layer of difficulty to just getting a damn job.

A better way to get employees seems to be to just accept quick applications from indeed, message them on the app and just set up a damn interview. With indeed available I’m not sure why these companies even use their own sites.

Oh man. I’m in my 40s, working full time in an office-based, professional role and renting is fucky even for someone who can prove a stable income. You go to look at a house, only to find 20 other people queued up waiting. You like the house, you offer to rent it, only to find that it’s been rented to someone offering £200 a month more than the list price.

It’s absolute shit.

I am on lifelong disability which means I get a guaranteed amount of money each month for life.

No landlords will touch me, a person with a GUARANTEED INCOME.

However, if you have a job, that you can get fired from or quit the next day, they’ll accept you. Blows my fucking mind.

Btw, for anyone wondering, if I lose my job, the government will step in and give me money for my disability. If I have a job, they don’t give me money. If I have a shit job where I make a couple hundred per month, they’ll cover the difference. I don’t mooch off the government, but my point is that I’m lucky enough to have a safety net, and landlords are so dumb they run away from it.

Same with buying shoes; how do you expect me to go to the shoe store without having shoes to walk in?

And for glasses; how can I find my glasses without glasses?

More than half of my recent applications all used the same workday application service, but you need a unique workday account for every fucking company. Why in the world is it not just a single account‽

And how long ago was that? And have you heard back since?

Ok, but - and please don’t think I mean this in an offensive way, I am asking this in the most naive way - isn’t that your whole job? I get that it is annoying, but you don’t waste 30 hours, you just work 30 hours. Hours that you get paid for and hours that you would use to do the same job/try to hire for another position otherwise. Of course you could get more done (i.e. more people hired) in a unit of time, but at the end of the day that’s not your problem really, is it? You did everything correctly. You still get your hours paid.

Do you get the impression that these are real humans lying to try and get the job themselves? Or is it just spam from vendor agencies conjuring hypothetical candidates that they in turn will need to find, taking a cut in the process.

You had me up until one way interview. I don’t respect any hiring manager that cannot face me in an interview. Never do one way interviews because there is no opportunity for the candidate to interview the company.

Yeah whenever I go for an interview for a public position, I try to be mindful that the person or people I’m speaking to are probably exhausted. But unless you’ve got a reference to a private posting directly through a back channel, then I don’t think there’s any way around it - hiring for a role is hard. But ideally, you’ll have the person for years if you can retain them, so doing it right is worthwhile.

Candidates lie

I was a software developer and I often interviewed prospective candidates by phone. It was hilarious how often I heard keyboard tapping in the background after asking a question, and sometimes I could hear other people whispering. I was like c’mon - I’m only phone interviewing to see if it’s worth our time to bring you in for an in-person interview. You’re not going to be able to Google shit (or have your friends do it) when you’re here, so this tactic is not going to land you a job.

then no show on an appointment THEY MAKE

I scare myself that I will miss recruiter appointments, I know that I would make a terrable canadate when I was (and still kinda am) going through mential issues.

Headhunters talk big and deliver bottom barrel candidates, no one likes recruiters, so great candidates hardly use them.

Thank you, thats good to know. Even worse are the orgs that “job hunt for the 3 legged deer of our society” . The corrupt ones will make you feel crippled. ironically, hurting your mential health, making you an unfit canadate and exasurbating the problem.

Ok, but - and please don’t think I mean this in an offensive way, I am asking this in the most naive way - isn’t that your whole job? I get that it is annoying, but you don’t waste 30 hours, you just work 30 hours. Hours that you get paid for and hours that you would use to do the same job/try to hire for another position otherwise. Of course you could get more done (i.e. more people hired) in a unit of time, but at the end of the day that’s not your problem really, is it? You did everything correctly. You still get your hours paid.

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I do that but half of the time when I get a response like that it’s from some automated email that says no one will read any replies to it.

Five years ago, people treated other people like people. Happy for you though!

i hate how we’re supposed to act like we’re the Most Perfect fit for the role, and So Eager! – the most ideal human to ever walk the earth, specifically for this role.

and you get the job and go there and the coworkers aren’t fucking god and apollo, it’s joey and mark

I would rather be raped by Apple than raped be Mongols just saying.

I think the guys in the trenches in WW1 would love to trade places with you