• CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world
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    • Die in a few weeks? No
    • Get more users than reddit? No
    • Be a place in the long run for privacy minded people to escape corporatism and have discussions about any topic? Yes
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      Let’s be real, most of the growth of Reddit over the last 5 or so years haven’t been the type of folks generating good content and discussion anyway. Even if Lemmy gets like 1% of the userbase this place is going to thrive.

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        A large majority of the content posted there seems to be from bot accounts. No matter what you think Reddit’s active userbase is, it is heavily inflated.

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          Yup. I remember seeing a post of the top karma accounts on reddit and it was removed by the admins before I could finish blocking them all.

          Meanwhile back in 2016 when I still bothered to participate in political subs it became painfully clear that the russian troll farms were real and that they were enflaming both sides of issues in order to manufacture outrage.

          Than we saw the consolidation of power mods and retaliatory moderation/administration.

          I hope every bitcoin and nft bro is left holding reddits handbags come IPO.

          Regardless I’ll never go back. If lemmy dies I’ll get a fucking life or something lol

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      I see a ton of support, thousands are making the jump and dozens of apps are being made/getting updated now. Seems Lemmy/Kbin will only grow from here as long as there’s no major setbacks

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        Glad to hear it. I deleted 2 accounts with over 100k karama, and moved fully to Lemmy. I’m here to stay as well. Reddit is dead to me.

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          100%, 12 year daily reddit user - feels like I’m out of a bad relationship. I moved all my third party apps off three weeks ago and have replaced all my time with Lemmy and the Fediverse.

          I didn’t realize how poorly the experience had degraded - scrolling content mindlessly, most interactions were dull and sometimes weirdly antagonistic.

          Conversely, my experience on Lemmy has been interesting content with more depth, connecting with people in a warm and welcoming way. I don’t expect this to become reddit - I wouldn’t really want it to.

          I am excited for a future here as the third party apps are removed last this week and we can start a new adventure together.

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            Even if this does become reddit, here at lemmy.world, just move to a different Instance, block lemmy.world, and boom. Problem solved.

            Would not take long to do. I expect many people will do just this. We’re probably going to be one of the most commonly defederated-with Instances, just due to being the largest and thus, spammiest.

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              But also the one with the most content as well.

              Spam control really depends on the ability of the admins and moderation, as well as the quality of the mod tools. Lemmy is nowhere near the size of reddit yet for that to be a problem.

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                Yeah, but a lot of people really don’t want quantity when it comes to content, that’s the point. Some people really just want to get away from most of it.

                Some people are a little elitist with it. It’s got to be the good stuff, and they draw lines between good and the 99% of everything else. Kinda like how most of the restaurants in the US are shitty fast food.

                I’m not arguing for it or saying it is right for them to do so. I’m saying it’s inevitable. We are going to be defederated-with more than any group that isn’t political extremists. If that does not appeal to you, another Instance would be wise.

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        Same. I’m not going back. Also, Lemmy/kbin have become way more active than before. I hope they gain more traction.

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      With content like “do you think Lemmy will die soon?” where would we be without OP?!

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      I’ll be here, this place definitely has a lot more potential than Reddit does. Even though people may complain about federation this method is more stable in the long run, since individual sites can come and go and may fall victim to the same plague that Reddit is facing.

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      Was using RiF and reddit for 12 years. Been on lemmy for a few weeks and I don’t miss reddit. Certainly not going to try to use the official reddit app. So probably not using reddit even if I wanted to in the future.

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    Hmmm the main question is whether it can get it’s content to show up in search results - this being the main selling point of Reddit and other platforms.

    Right now, if you help someone fix an issue it’s pretty much walled in and unavailable.

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      Yeah, I was talking to my wife about this.

      Today I can search “whatever reddit”, but with Lemmy-like I have no idea how, since it’s not centralized.

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      Yes, getting lemmy’s link high enough on google that it can even be compared to reddit’s is a critical but immensely difficult battle to fight since the latter has 18 years of inertia, I guess it all comes down to a matter of pumping the OC and high quality content consistently for a very long time

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      im seeing content from both my instance and beehaw’s in google’s results. stands to reason every instance is in there. I expect that the software likely needs optimizations before everything is properly indexed. before reddit google simply indexed thousands of phpbb and invision boards.

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      agreed, is there any way to fix this?

      i’m fairly certain that it really just depends on the google web crawlers to find and index pages. but if the posts are public that’s just a matter of time.

      even with reddit, a post has a new URL so takes some time to be indexed by google or other search engines.

      so maybe it’s just a matter of delivering relevant content over time so that lemmy results get preferred over others

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        This isn’t true. SEO has been optimized to find good content that engaged users. Long gone are the days of cramming together keyword lists and throwing a few meta tags to rank high. Write high quality (preferably long form) content and it will pay dividends.

        Source: I’ve worked in digital marketing too long.

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    Personal opinion: activity will spike around now, then plateau not much lower than its peak. It’ll probably never be as popular as Reddit. I imagine most people will run into some minor inconvenience, then never try to use it again, and the rest of us will be here for years.

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      I guess a big spike is still ahead, which will be around Saturday, once the 3rd party reddit apps shut down for good.

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    I’m ride or die once my 3PA stops working, so I hope it sticks around.

    Gotta say, it would be more attractive if every other post wasn’t a meta post about the platform and/or reddit. I hope we get some bots capable of ripping reddit posts and slapping them into Lemmy communities. As much as I’d like to pretend I’m a man of culture, sometimes I want shitposts and Tiktok reposts of someone’s dog being stupid…

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      I think it is just momentary, as it is the topic of the moment. Give it some time and we will forget about reddit. ☺️😅

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      That’s funny, because I am quite interested in the meta reddit posts. It’s interesting to see how things are unfolding. Though I do think it will of course settle down with time

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    I don’t think it’ll die… but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.

    The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services… I doubt it, but we wouldn’t be here if we only cared about numbers.

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    It depends on the growth curve. Right now it’s exponential, which means it will keep growing. When you see it stay linear for a while, it’ll probably start to flatten. At that point, it’s either big enough to stick or it’s not.

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    Lemmy will last because it was already around. I don’t think it will die in a few weeks. Today is my first day using it and I love it. I’m sure anyone who tries it will like it, too.

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      Been here a week or so - definitely different but I’m enjoying it. Less mindless scrolling, just good chats.

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    While everyone wants to constantly cry about it not being Reddit - the fact that people are flocking here hand over fist over the more direct 1 for 1 Reddit clones shows that people do understand that we need to go back to a more decentralized web. Even if this doesn’t hit critical Reddit size mass, there’s enough of us to keep each other company ❤️

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      Are there any 1 for 1 reddit clones live at the moment? I’ve heard of some in development, but I haven’t seen any that you can actually use already.

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        There’s a few. I don’t know too much about them because it seems silly to bail on one centralized authority for another lol.

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    It will last. I plan to stay here. I hope everyone else does too. Even if Reddit totally went completely back to how it was, I deleted my account because I don’t like their attitude. I also find the conversation better here. And it’s all open source, which is always my preference.

    Same with Twitter, I still use it to follow F1 drivers but that’s it. 99% of my socials is done on Mastodon now as there are more people there who share my interests and it’s open source.

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    If lemmy can get the search algorithm to work well, it’ll be good for a decent while I think… I hope for the sake of the internet everything needs to have some form of competition, and if Lemmy truly becomes the new reddit, hopefully we all learn what they did wrong and can make it better so that we as a collective have the best website/forum/memebase that’s humanly possible

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    It all depends on us. I hope for more servers that FEDERATE - I’m trying hard to cut /r/ out of my life… if we do that, lemmy and the fediverse can live on… Will you?

    pAULIE42o