• TheAuthor_13@lemm.ee
    80·
    1 year ago

    Except Panera’s not even in the same league when it comes to completely unnecessary deaths… religion/ church has millennia & millions up on Panera.

    Edit: Panera also has far less sweaty-palmed, Father Feelgood kiddie-diddling accusations as well.

    • Sarmyth@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      16·
      1 year ago

      LOL, definitely not, but I remember the 90s as well when every stoner wouldn’t shut up about weed bringing anti carcinogenic. Weed kills people beside the user. It’s still hugely safe, but bad decision-making under the influence of weed has probably killed more people than caffeine. You could argue the caffeine didn’t kill them. Their other health condition did. The same way we could argue weed didn’t kill anyone, but the drug trade did.

      • EatYouWell@lemmy.world
        28·
        1 year ago

        The weed drug trade only exists because of the legal status of weed. Nixon is ultimately responsible for everyone killed because of it.

            • mommykink@lemmy.world
              4·
              1 year ago

              Nixon is ultimately responsible for everyone killed because of [Marijuana]

              Richard Nixon did not invent Marijuana hysteria. He just used a pre-existing societal issue to sway one side (and punish the other). The Nixon Administration also didn’t force cannabis criminalization onto a pro-legalization country. Dispite what you might think, the majority of Americans polled against Marijuana legalization for most of modern American history -both before, during, and for decades after Nixon left office. You’re pointing fingers at the wrong person and the real ones responsible are laughing at you.

              I’m at work right now but if you want a more in-depth response, let me know and I’ll try to write one tonight.

              ETA: This doesn’t even begin to address the honestly hilarious Americocentrism and recency bias in that claim. Richard Nixon did not time travel back to 1378 and force Soudoun Sheikouni to make the private import of cannabis punishable by death in Joneima. King Andrianampoinimerina didn’t have a 300-year advance copy of the Control Substance Act when he instituted capital punishment for even possession. A ten-year-old Richard Nixon didn’t show up at the Palazzo Braschi and demand Mussolini outlaw maijuana.

        • Sarmyth@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          3·
          1 year ago

          We can blame whoever we want, but deaths are deaths. We can even go further and say that the deaths to user ratio makes the disparity even greater.

          Hell, we could go completely nuts and say the stamp tax on tea and other goods leading up to the American Revolutionary War led to the creation of the United States, and therefore, all deaths resulting from the actions of the US could be blamed on caffeine.

      • LifeBandit666@feddit.ukEnglish
        21·
        1 year ago

        Depends if you factor in all the decisions that people have made using caffeine to keep them awake, that they wouldn’t have made if they had just gone back to bed.

        But you won’t be counting them because it fucks your arguement, despite using it for weed.

      • banneryear1868@lemmy.world
        7·
        1 year ago

        Yeah pretty much, hard to compare them because they cause problems in different ways. Under 100 deaths per year for caffeine overdose, cannabis is associated with more fatalities but not in a causal way. Caffeine isn’t a workplace safety issue and doesn’t harm judgement, cannabis has very measurable negative effects on cognition. Cannabis is, by no virtue of itself, associated with violence that comes with the black market.

        • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Caffeine isn’t a workplace safety issue and doesn’t harm judgement

          Funny enough my old workplace had to start going in and taking the coffee maker around 11am because too many people were overdoing their coffee and ending up jittery and anxiety ridden in the short term (making mistakes) and then exhausted to the point of almost falling asleep near the end of work (more mistakes)

          Meanwhile my high ass was on a constant 7 speed the entire day (this was in an office so the worst I could do would have been to pay someone the wrong amount of money, which never happened)

          Though tbh neither is realistically that bad for you unless you’re going overboard, which is kinda the case for most things in life

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 year ago

          I use cannabis about once a week. There is a guy at work that I won’t work near because he comes into work high and I don’t want to be injured when he screws up, again.

          Go ahead and get stoned, in your home, at night, when you can’t do anything stupid that hurts someone.

  • Erasmus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    37·
    1 year ago

    How many people have died because of organized religion vs. Panera charged lemonade.

  • son_named_bort@lemmy.world
    30·
    1 year ago

    I don’t blame people for not going to church. They don’t even give you wine anymore, just grape juice. Jesus drank wine, why can’t I?

  • Norgur@discuss.tchncs.de
    25·
    1 year ago

    So I either have to die from needlessly over caffeinated soft drinks or deliver my own son to a molestation orgy club? What fucked up kind of choice is that?!