Filtered dns provided via opendns.com is a damn good/easy option. Not 100% but will take care of most junk that may accidentally pop up. If they are smart enough to get around that, I feel they are old enough to understand the concept and consequences of sexual intercourse.
I like this take for two reasons. You’re one hundred percent right. But also. It’s part of the whole deal, keep feeding the “justice system” people that aren’t smart enough or just didn’t think of the potential fall out. These laws aren’t meant to stop everyone, they’re meant to choose who it is they want to stop.
Most routers have parental controls. Web sites have categories, and you can explicitly block those categories. You can use 3rd party dns tools like nextdns for granular control. Lots of parental software you can install that can limit PC time use, sites, tracking, etc. you can blacklist sites too. Lots of control and access levels so you don’t block yourself too.
sure, but it’s not going to curb the curiosity 100%. and it’s not just sex sites, kids don’t need to see sites like crazyshit.com, etc until they’re at least mature enough.
i’m wouldn’t be looking to curb curiosity tho… that’s not natural at all… instead i’d be looking to address it head on…
i’m telling my kids, yes this happens, this is a thing… share my viewpoints on the dangers of abusing it… and reprimand them for treating it as such.
they’re still going to do it… but at least them knowing that i’m well aware of it as a parent would lessen risk of them turning it into some sort of secret addiction of theirs.
What did you tell them about hardcore anal? All the kids want anal now.
They don’t know about all the prep, the behind the scenes, the emergency room runs where someone gets a perferated colon and risks bleeding out internally.
Did you mention that to your daughter?
I’m not advocating for government control, but simple snappy one liners are just that. Unless they’re funny. We all like those 😉
that’s the thing… by me saying talk to kids… im saying address it all… i’m looking to educate them, not shelter them…
if/when i have one, i’m telling them this world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows… here’s how to make the smart and wise decisions…~then i’d hand them their baby bottle~
if you’ve got a kid old enough to be using a phone, but not old enough to know about sex, and you haven’t enabled parental controls, you have other things to worry about. or they’re old enough to look at whatever they please.
So you think everyone should pay for the fact that you’re a bad parent?
Edit: This user is probably just a troll who should be blocked/banned on sight. Their argument here today flies directly in the face of another moronic stance they displayed a week ago.
Then spend a day or two in sex ed every year talking about responsible porn consumption. Jfc this isn’t rocket science.
We’re talking about boobs and penises here people. Chances are you have at least one of those. This is just penetration and masturbation in realistic and fantasy settings. This isn’t profane, this is nature.
LMFAO we gonna do that for hungry kids too? Or are we just gonna cherry pick the shit the bible never said and go with “what this other guy, what’s his name, whatever doesn’t matter”, said it on Facebook that one time?
You guys are fucking ludicrous with what you think the government should and shouldn’t do. if you spent more time thinking about what you could achieve yourself and for the people around you, rather than what you think should be imposed on everyone else you may be surprised. I really hope you think about this because Jesus fucking Christ watching y’all think like this is exhausting.
So, you want to remove porn from every household in America because it can harm children… but not guns… because they can’t? Get your head out of your ass, please.
Not too sure about that, most gun people I know or hear about don’t just stop at 1. Sounds like addiction to me. I for one only have 1 way to access porn. Checkmate.
As you’re here on Lemmy, a site that has pornographic content, we’re going to need you to post a picture of your government ID, next to your face, with your username on a piece of paper, as a reply to this comment. You know, to prevent kids accessing porn.
this is the textbook definition of government overreach, forcing everyone to play nanny state because republicans can’t control their little shitlings internet use
the fact that you think for one second that this bullshit will stop kids from accessing porn demonstrates how clueless all these cromagnon chuds are about how the internet actually works.
We need to do the same thing with any religious sites as well. Kids shouldn’t be exposed to that crap without parental guidance either. It is however a massive waste of resources and time since kids are smarter than the idiots making the laws and will very very easily bypass this and laugh in the faces of the fascist fucks that think they’re controlling people while watching whatever porn they want. Get fucked.
And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
Bitches got their dad drunk and raped him till they got pregnant.
No porn in religion, my hairy ass. I could nut 5 times before I finish reading Genesis. God damn bible practically starts off as a collection of “Dear Penthouse” columns for wealthy literate men who liked wearing colorful gowns.
So you’re over here agreeing with someone who literally said they would walk into every home to confiscate anything that may allow access to porn if they could, but me calling you out for being a fascist shithead is just me taking it personally? Okay, yeah, sure buddy.
Yeah, my parents had the talk with me when they found my physical, irl folder of printed hentai art (this was like, 2002ish and I didn’t have my own PC and I didn’t have a Pornstation Portable sadly (PSP))
The “talk” was my parents sitting me down, telling me what my mom found, and then my mom getting up and telling my dad to talk to me about it, and she left, and then my dad just told me not to look at it until I was older and that was it -__-
Parental controls are easy to get around in most cases, and kids are generally smarter than (most) adults when it comes to tech. I remember back in the days of AOL my dad enabled Parental Controls on my account. Pissed that my tween self couldn’t look at low resolution pictures of naked women I figured out quickly how to remedy that: I downloaded a keylogger which ran in the background of Windows all the time and when I heard the famous “Welcome! You’ve got mail!” I waited until he signed off, jumped on the PC, opened the keylog file, found a string of text that looked like a password (no one was using complex passwords back then, usually just a word or two), signed on to his account, and then re-enabled full access on my account.
This. It’s like, do these people think kids aren’t interested in that stuff? Like, I remember getting an abstinence talk during my freshman year. I remember being told how awesome sex was, but also to wait. And even still, nearly everyone was fucking everyone else in my graduating class. Like, how willfully ignorant do you have to be to think that kids don’t hook up?
Covering a kids ears when you swear like they don’t already know more swear words than the parent does. When I was a kid, if there were no adults around we swore like fucking sailors.
Yes, they should step in, and direct those parents not the rest of society that isn’t a failure to their children. Maybe letting your children engage in pornographic material should be against the law, not the porn that any reasonable person can consume without involving children.
Maybe if you aren’t fit to care for your children, you shouldn’t be allowed to have them.
It’s almost like conservatives refusing to teach their children to have a healthy relationship with sex (sexual health, importance of consent, etc) is fucking them up, and banning porn is a shitty attempted bandaid solution for their inability to properly raise their children
yes it is; that’s exactly what it is. kids is the go-to reason fascists give to censor, ban, burn books, discriminate against people and control people’s bodies and lives. it’s not a coincidence that “children” is one of the 14 words.
It’s not stopping anybody. If you are a horny enough 13 year old you’ll find it on any platform. Speaking from experience YouTube, Instagram, Reddit (obviously lemmy as well) and in short the rest of them can be pretty easily used to access porn. It’s not allowed on for example YouTube but it’s still there or it manages to be technically allowed through being “educational content”. Obviously we aren’t talking about like Brazzers or whatever being directly uploaded but there’s definitely naked people doing proactive things.
its not facist to try to stop kids from accessing porn
Parents jobs. And TONS of ways to do it without punishing everyone and collecting PII.
How would you as a parent prevent your kids from accessing porn?
Filtered dns provided via opendns.com is a damn good/easy option. Not 100% but will take care of most junk that may accidentally pop up. If they are smart enough to get around that, I feel they are old enough to understand the concept and consequences of sexual intercourse.
Anyone smart enough to get around that would also be smart enough to get around whatever the government does to block it.
I like this take for two reasons. You’re one hundred percent right. But also. It’s part of the whole deal, keep feeding the “justice system” people that aren’t smart enough or just didn’t think of the potential fall out. These laws aren’t meant to stop everyone, they’re meant to choose who it is they want to stop.
Agreed, unless it was everything everywhere, that would be scary, like China scary
Most routers have parental controls. Web sites have categories, and you can explicitly block those categories. You can use 3rd party dns tools like nextdns for granular control. Lots of parental software you can install that can limit PC time use, sites, tracking, etc. you can blacklist sites too. Lots of control and access levels so you don’t block yourself too.
or you know… talk to your kids
sure, but it’s not going to curb the curiosity 100%. and it’s not just sex sites, kids don’t need to see sites like crazyshit.com, etc until they’re at least mature enough.
i’m wouldn’t be looking to curb curiosity tho… that’s not natural at all… instead i’d be looking to address it head on…
i’m telling my kids, yes this happens, this is a thing… share my viewpoints on the dangers of abusing it… and reprimand them for treating it as such.
they’re still going to do it… but at least them knowing that i’m well aware of it as a parent would lessen risk of them turning it into some sort of secret addiction of theirs.
@mmagod
Do you have kids?
What did you tell them about hardcore anal? All the kids want anal now.
They don’t know about all the prep, the behind the scenes, the emergency room runs where someone gets a perferated colon and risks bleeding out internally.
Did you mention that to your daughter?
I’m not advocating for government control, but simple snappy one liners are just that. Unless they’re funny. We all like those 😉
lol no kids…
that’s the thing… by me saying talk to kids… im saying address it all… i’m looking to educate them, not shelter them…
if/when i have one, i’m telling them this world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows… here’s how to make the smart and wise decisions…~then i’d hand them their baby bottle~
And then you put your phone on cellular and all the Wi-Fi controls are gone.
Google family app does some good.
if you’ve got a kid old enough to be using a phone, but not old enough to know about sex, and you haven’t enabled parental controls, you have other things to worry about. or they’re old enough to look at whatever they please.
Parents have proven they are not capable of managing it themselves.
Not the states problem. Also, much bigger issues than naked ladies on computer.
It is if the parents wont do anything about it.
Bring in the military to feed my kids some vegetables.
Lolwut? So if my parents didn’t do something for me, the state needs to pick us the slack? No. It’s porn man, not jihad.
So you think everyone should pay for the fact that you’re a bad parent?
Edit: This user is probably just a troll who should be blocked/banned on sight. Their argument here today flies directly in the face of another moronic stance they displayed a week ago.
Then spend a day or two in sex ed every year talking about responsible porn consumption. Jfc this isn’t rocket science.
We’re talking about boobs and penises here people. Chances are you have at least one of those. This is just penetration and masturbation in realistic and fantasy settings. This isn’t profane, this is nature.
The truly disgusting part of porn isn’t the sex.
LMFAO we gonna do that for hungry kids too? Or are we just gonna cherry pick the shit the bible never said and go with “what this other guy, what’s his name, whatever doesn’t matter”, said it on Facebook that one time?
You guys are fucking ludicrous with what you think the government should and shouldn’t do. if you spent more time thinking about what you could achieve yourself and for the people around you, rather than what you think should be imposed on everyone else you may be surprised. I really hope you think about this because Jesus fucking Christ watching y’all think like this is exhausting.
Maybe grow the fuck up and stop depending on gummint to do shit for you. Bootstraps n shit, bruh.
Because, as much as I’d like to, I cant go into every family home and take away the kids’ devices.
“I’m not a fascist, I just want to impose my specific views on the entirety of humanity by force!”
Have you ever considered fellating a joshua tree?
Says the not fascist….
Cool. So let’s get all the guns out of any houses with minors.
guns are not as addictive as porn
Lolbruh. Porn isn’t as bunch-of-kids-shot-dead-by-another-republican-ghoul. But you go ahead and rock on.
So, you want to remove porn from every household in America because it can harm children… but not guns… because they can’t? Get your head out of your ass, please.
I never said guns cant harm children
Not too sure about that, most gun people I know or hear about don’t just stop at 1. Sounds like addiction to me. I for one only have 1 way to access porn. Checkmate.
I hope and assume you’re a troll but if you aren’t, please, please, seek help.
Just wow bro. Full fash
A parents inability to parent their children should not infringe upon my right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Happiness= porn in his case
Just as the founders intended.
Based on what?
Parents could not keep up with fast pace of emerging technologies.
I’m not defending the ban on porn, I’m just saying.
Parents have also proven that they are capable of managing it themselves.
Almost like ‘parents’ is not one person.
Dumb parents are gonna be dumb regardless of all the stupid law enacted by other dumb parents.
So now you’re blaming parents? Have you no family values? Why do you hate American families so much?
As you’re here on Lemmy, a site that has pornographic content, we’re going to need you to post a picture of your government ID, next to your face, with your username on a piece of paper, as a reply to this comment. You know, to prevent kids accessing porn.
We scan your balls
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BALL SCAN COMPLETE
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If you actually believe this is about protecting children then I have a bridge to sell you
Fuck a bridge. Let’s sell em some “antiporn software” that is subscription based.
You have some business model here pal, I say go
Putting age gates on the Internet is indeed pretty authoritarian though, and starting with porn is only the beginning
Not authoitarian at all. Its the bare minimum
this is the textbook definition of government overreach, forcing everyone to play nanny state because republicans can’t control their little shitlings internet use
the fact that you think for one second that this bullshit will stop kids from accessing porn demonstrates how clueless all these cromagnon chuds are about how the internet actually works.
We need to do the same thing with any religious sites as well. Kids shouldn’t be exposed to that crap without parental guidance either. It is however a massive waste of resources and time since kids are smarter than the idiots making the laws and will very very easily bypass this and laugh in the faces of the fascist fucks that think they’re controlling people while watching whatever porn they want. Get fucked.
Religious sites are not porn.
And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
Bitches got their dad drunk and raped him till they got pregnant.
No porn in religion, my hairy ass. I could nut 5 times before I finish reading Genesis. God damn bible practically starts off as a collection of “Dear Penthouse” columns for wealthy literate men who liked wearing colorful gowns.
Yea The clergy just rapes the kids instead
Go look up what authoritarian means again
It’s absolutely authoritarian. You’re an idiot if you think otherwise. I’m not even going to offer an argument, you’re just stupid.
Mate please go choke on a cactus or something
I wish I didn’t watch porn as a kid, so I’m with you on this
I wish I had sex as a kid, but porn was a nice substitute.
That’s something I hadn’t thought about.
Don’t let your dreams just be dreams! Go out and find some kids and help them make their wish come true!
The world shouldn’t have to pay because your parents sucked at their job and fucked you up, bro.
Ah you’re right, my parents should have known about the dangers of porn in 1997. I’m also not fucked up, just feel as if I’d have been better without
Do… Do you think porn was a new-fangled thing in 1997?
No lol, but the Internet was
You’re a grown-ass human being projecting your problems into the entirety of human society. That’s pretty fucked up from where I stand.
Damn dude, sorry I knocked your hobby, don’t take it too personally
So you’re over here agreeing with someone who literally said they would walk into every home to confiscate anything that may allow access to porn if they could, but me calling you out for being a fascist shithead is just me taking it personally? Okay, yeah, sure buddy.
How shitty a parent are you to either not know how to work parental controls or better… to talk to your kids about healthy attitudes towards sex?*
*besides abstinence
Yeah, my parents had the talk with me when they found my physical, irl folder of printed hentai art (this was like, 2002ish and I didn’t have my own PC and I didn’t have a Pornstation Portable sadly (PSP))
The “talk” was my parents sitting me down, telling me what my mom found, and then my mom getting up and telling my dad to talk to me about it, and she left, and then my dad just told me not to look at it until I was older and that was it -__-
Boomer parenting hell yeah
Parental controls are easy to get around in most cases, and kids are generally smarter than (most) adults when it comes to tech. I remember back in the days of AOL my dad enabled Parental Controls on my account. Pissed that my tween self couldn’t look at low resolution pictures of naked women I figured out quickly how to remedy that: I downloaded a keylogger which ran in the background of Windows all the time and when I heard the famous “Welcome! You’ve got mail!” I waited until he signed off, jumped on the PC, opened the keylog file, found a string of text that looked like a password (no one was using complex passwords back then, usually just a word or two), signed on to his account, and then re-enabled full access on my account.
But I bet you think it is fascist to pass laws which stop kids from getting shot at school?
They are going to access it anyway
This. It’s like, do these people think kids aren’t interested in that stuff? Like, I remember getting an abstinence talk during my freshman year. I remember being told how awesome sex was, but also to wait. And even still, nearly everyone was fucking everyone else in my graduating class. Like, how willfully ignorant do you have to be to think that kids don’t hook up?
Covering a kids ears when you swear like they don’t already know more swear words than the parent does. When I was a kid, if there were no adults around we swore like fucking sailors.
wildly understated too…
like… middle school kids today navigated mobile devices with ease when they were toddlers…
they’re gonna know what a vpn is before they leave high school.
we’re just better off addressing the issue head on than trying to band-aid it… it won’t work
Yes and let’s put ID verification on anything that might have curses too. Can’t risk a parent not sheltering their child hard enough.
Actually, can we get ID verification for voice chat in online shooters?
Shit would sound like a church in COD.
The world isn’t made for children, where are their fucking parents?
Their parents are not doing a good enough job. Its time for the law to step in
funny-- people say the same thing about guns, but the reply is “NOOOOO but what about the LaW aBiDiNg CiTiZeNs”
That is the definition of an authoritarian position.
Yes, they should step in, and direct those parents not the rest of society that isn’t a failure to their children. Maybe letting your children engage in pornographic material should be against the law, not the porn that any reasonable person can consume without involving children.
Maybe if you aren’t fit to care for your children, you shouldn’t be allowed to have them.
It’s almost like conservatives refusing to teach their children to have a healthy relationship with sex (sexual health, importance of consent, etc) is fucking them up, and banning porn is a shitty attempted bandaid solution for their inability to properly raise their children
yes it is; that’s exactly what it is. kids is the go-to reason fascists give to censor, ban, burn books, discriminate against people and control people’s bodies and lives. it’s not a coincidence that “children” is one of the 14 words.
i dont know what you mean by 14 words. Like 14 protected classes?
The primary slogan in the Fourteen Words is,
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children,
Followed by the secondary slogan,
because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the Earth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Words
BuT mUh GuNz!!!11!
Speaking as a “muh gunz” person that person is fucking stupid
Idiot
It is, though
It’s not stopping anybody. If you are a horny enough 13 year old you’ll find it on any platform. Speaking from experience YouTube, Instagram, Reddit (obviously lemmy as well) and in short the rest of them can be pretty easily used to access porn. It’s not allowed on for example YouTube but it’s still there or it manages to be technically allowed through being “educational content”. Obviously we aren’t talking about like Brazzers or whatever being directly uploaded but there’s definitely naked people doing proactive things.
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