US concerned NASA will be overtaken by China’s space program::undefined

    • Red Army Dog Cooper@lemmy.ml
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      10 months ago

      They are likely going to fund it less and give more and more of its mission over to space force and private companies is my guess

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        10 months ago

        That would also work.

        The only thing that won’t work for space is the thing we’re doing now:

        • Maintaining a vice-like government control
        • Using that government authority to choose not to move forward

        Progress only stops under a narrow set of conditions that need to be actively implemented by the government. Progress is actually natural, and progress stopping requires enormous centralized effort to interfere with people getting things done.

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            Theoretically private programs would be an increased cost over a NASA only program since private companies want a profit margin.

            But Congress being what it is tends to require NASA programs to create jobs in a lot of different voting districts across the country which leads to an insane amount of inefficiencies.

            We can’t have nice things because of pork barrel politics.

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              Private Companies however have no insintive to actualy innovate, if you look at them they are all taking decades old NASA and USSR Space program tech and resuing it … and callling it innovation

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                I’m sorry… this is not true lol. You know what SpaceX is up to, right? At the least, but there are tons of interesting and innovative companies. I mean hell look at Stoke Space

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      10 months ago

      If we fold it into the space force and say it’s for targeting woke weirdos…we’ll get a billion dollars through congress by tomorrow

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          Intelligence that doesn’t come from jeebus?! They’ll burn that ark before it leaves the ground

          Search for god or his patio or whatever…now you’ve got Midwest money

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            “Search for extraterrestrial divine intelligence” or “a strategy to get closer to God through space colonization”, say, a Stanford torus in some L point (that’s so expensive that it ain’t gonna happen, but they’ll also be very excited, I think).

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        We could just say the “anti-woke” part and not even bother with the space force part and that would probably work.

        The woke boogieman is the biggest thing to scare them in years.

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          10 months ago

          The woke boogeyman scares us because it, itself, is a set of false threats that are distracting us from real threats.

          Like, we’re worried about war, a shifting global power structure, the degradation of systems of detente that keep the worst in humanity from emerging, and the woke crowd wants us to treat the feelings of exclusion of trans people as the most important threat on the board.

          The woke movement is a boogeyman movement, and that’s why we treat it as dangerous. The woke movement is a push to get new boogeymen added to our threat list and moved to top priority over things we know will actually kill us.

          And thing that really, really scares us, is that the system that has proven to be the salve for the ills of massive unleashed violence, the system we call free market economics, is being targeted by the woke crowd because they refuse to read the history of the things they’re proposing. They’re all like “we don’t want people to suffer so let’s abolish private property”. That’s like saying “we don’t want people to drown, and people tend to drown when they’re near boats, so let’s destroy this boat we’re all in, to prevent drowning!”

          It’s terrifying to us because there are serious things to be afraid of, and the woke movement is asking us to ignore or even embrace those things.

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            There is no “woke movement.” That’s exactly why you’re scared of a boogieman. They don’t exist either.