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And the bed of that playtruck is empty and has never been used
Why not put a spare car in it?
Car? Why not another truck?
It’s just trucks all the way down
Can’t. The cab needed enough room to put the family so you know where they are without having to mow them down first.
He needs the large crew cab to have somewhere to put his groceries. Because he doesn’t want to get that bed scratched.
I watched a guy load bags of soil from the hardware store into the back seats of the crew cab while he had an empty bed. The bed would have been easier to load and could easily be hosed down if a bag leaked. I guess he forgot it was also a truck and not just a luxury commuter car.
Well you don’t want groceries in the bed mostly because it will be thrown around since it’s just open space…
What a fantastic car design
Things are pretty fantastic when you use them for that they’re made to do… Try safely carrying 20 4’x8’ sheets of sheetrock in a small car… Or try carrying two bags of groceries in a sedan’s trunk without anything holding them in place…
A van will have more cargo volume for the same wheelbase, be easier to load, and have the cargo be covered from the elements. Those are made for carrying stuff. Pick-ups are made only to show that the owner is compensating for something.
Pickups let you load stuff as high as you want to and the open sides can make things much simpler. Try loading a couple of loads of dirt in a van.
For home use I have seen most people buy dirt in bags. A sedan or even a compact would handle carrying those. The open sides can be a benefit for sure, but I don’t know about putting cargo ‘as high as you want to,’ given that wind is a thing. And vans are pretty tall anyway!
I understand that they can have some utility on a farm or something, but the average person is not regularly transporting a ‘couple loads of dirt’ in suburbia.
And I never said the average person should own a truck but buying dirt in bulk (measured in yards) isn’t unusual if your house has space for a garden and it’s way cheaper than buying bags of it. Same for carrying lumber that would be too long for a van.
Also it’s very funny that if you want to be able to do most of things a truck can do, the alternative to a truck should be a contractor’s van which has worse visibility on the sides and at the back, is just as big or bigger than a truck and uses the same engine…
Why have them so high up off the ground though? Unless they’re made for loading docks
The one in the picture isn’t stock, the owner made it impractical unless he pulls trailers with a goose neck on the regular.
Even the non lifted ones have the bed and seats way high up
If you need to be able to carry heavy loads you need the suspension to be able to absorb road bumps while loaded
My dad always has trucks, whole 30 years of my life. To prevent groceries flying around you tie the bags and put them close to the cab, unless they’re really light and that case you put them in the cab. He never had crew cab until much later in my life so stuff had to go in the bed as 90s extended cabs were not very extended lol the days of the single fold down seat behind the main front seats sucked for me
I’m 6’2" and used one in my adult lifetime (ranger if I recall). At my age now I doubt I could do it again
Aren’t there cargo nets and other accessories for that? I get it if you have perishable groceries that need to be kept frozen until you get home and it’s hot outside.
Indeed. Hell my old Ranger had a gap in the bed liner so I could slide a 2x4 (I think I actually used a 2x6) in place and have a perfect divider for groceries right at the tailgate. It was simple and worked perfect. When it was time to do truck shit the board just lifted up and got tossed in with the bricks or whatever.
I think people should need a licence to drive anything that has a tall nose. The chance of fatality is really high for those cars and people need to be taught that.
Iiiiiidiot tax! $99,99 for 2 hour course where people tell you “You see that hood? Yeah, you hit someone with it, that person is GONE”.
I just want to put a small barrier between people and buying a car that’s may more dangerous than any reasonably sized alternative. If people want storage space they should buy a station wagon. If they want to transport for work they should buy a Caddy type. If they want to go outdoors offroading then they should get a licence on how to drive offroad and how to prevent front-over accidents etc.
SUVs and bigger cars are becoming the default choice and I think that’s a bad thing.
Honestly, they know that. But fashion is fashion, and people’s desire is rarely logical. So that barrier…I don’t think it will work any better than actual idiot tax. The only offputting thing would be price.
There’s already an idiot tax, a crossover costs 50% more than regular. Price is not an issue for people that buy these but a license, course and having the license easier to revoke for speeding in pedestrian zone might work.
…problem is that manufacturers are discontinuing cars to focus upon SUVs + trucks…
It’s starting to impact the used car market where I live. Not as many options as before when half are cross/suv.
If people want storage space they should buy a station wagon. If they want to transport for work they should buy a Caddy type. If they want to go outdoors offroading then they should get a licence on how to drive offroad and how to prevent front-over accidents etc.
Most people buying one of these expended exactly zero seconds of thought on what they need from an automobile.
If someone even managed to get any law in place like what you’re suggesting (which they won’t because it goes against the interests of business), the right wing idiot backlash would be furious and cacophonous and the net result would be Florida marking a day on the calendar as state wide “Ford-fuck-you-mobile” day.
I would love a station wagon, but not many of those around where I live 🙃
https://www.caranddriver.com/rankings/best-station-wagons
Apparently these things are what they are calling station wagons these days.
Lmao what? These are practically SUV’s
Fr, I would call every single one of those a “crossover” before I called them station wagons.
That Volvo v60 is the closest thing to a modern station wagon. If it doesn’t have 3 big side windows from front to back, it shouldn’t be called a station wagon.
…that mercedes wagon is legitimate…
Fucking hell the size inflation is too real. Toyota Auris and Hyundai i30 are good ones for anybody looking.
The Volvo isn’t too bad, but yeah it’s weird how big they got on the outside, while at the same time seemingly having less storage inside.
…registration fees should be proportional to GVWR and speed limits (and fines) should be based upon kinetic energy…
The thing is if we actually make an off-road vehicle then something in the form factor of a uni-mog is vastly superior.
mogs are cool, i don’t know much about them because they seem to be primarily european, but i will probably own one someday out of curiosity, i only hear good things about them.
Personally i’m a fan of industry trucks though, tatra, oshkosh, unimog, the usual suspects. Ford can eat shit.
Mandatory weekly attendance for every week you wanna continue to drive around that thing in a city.
better yet, mandatory lifelike dummy crash experience. Send em into a ballistics gel dummy loaded with blood and organs, see how they feel about it.
Yep these big rigs should require a CDL, enough with the light trick exemption
If it doesnt have airbrakes, and you remove enough seats, you are legally allowed to drive a school bus with a normal liscence.
We need a LOT of attention to liscensing for different types of vehicles beyond just these trucks
Many countries do demand a commercial vehicle license for such trucks.
I agree you already need a license to drive a semi trucks I believe but just as someone who dailys a little itty bitty BMW z3 and works at a Toyota dealership and has driven 60s international harvesters anything bigger than a jeep wrangler takes time getting used to being tall and bulky hell I’ve seen people driving in the middle of the road because they got acclimated to driving a corrola and just hopped into a f150 as a man who has flipped my ATV making trails off roading no matter what your in you need to be instructed on the ins and outs of off roading I’m so onboard for making a sort of truck driving license
I’ve used huge trucks for bush work. Like we’re talking going mudding just to get to work. This line of work basically put me in the position that is the subject of commercials that try to convince suburban dads that they need a huge truck in case one day their family goes on a fictional camping trip to the middle of a swamp.
Anyways, you know what I learned? These fucking things suck at off-roading.
- They have shit visibility. You sometimes need to get out of the truck to see around corners, especially if you’re cresting steep hills
- They have a dangerously high center of gravity (I saw a bunch of coworkers roll theirs) that is only amplified if you carry large loads in their truck beds
- Over-complicated features like traction control will actually kill your power if you’re doing some technical driving, which will make you get stuck when you don’t need to
There’s no good reason for these pieces of shit to exist.
This line of work basically put me in the position that is the subject of commercials that try to convince suburban dads that they need a huge truck in case one day their family goes on a fictional camping trip to the middle of a swamp.
This is so on point.
So many defenders go, “It helped when I had to haul shit to the dump” or “I bring wood back to build my shed”.
What about the other 95% of the year? Because I rent a van to move shit and I’m happy taking the bus.
“It helped when I had to haul shit to the dump” or “I bring wood back to build my shed”.
the marks of a man scared to learn how to tow a trailer because “i don’t know how to do it”
Just use a trailer, it’s not that bad.
Or do what I did and pay cash for a beat up old truck to do those things with. Mine didn’t even have a radio, the heat barely worked, but it hauled hog feed and garbage well enough. And I wasn’t paying a grand a month in a car payment and insurance.
Not to mention they don’t even fucking fit in off-road situations half the time. Unless you’re in a wide open field or have giant cleared roads (in which case why do you need an ultimate off-road machineTM), most off-road situations in the eastern US are going to involve trees. Try driving around trees in that thing and you’ll be stuck in a matter of minutes.
For all the actual off road work I’ve done, the best vehicle has always been those little utility off-road vehicles (we call them mules or gators but I’m sure they have a real name) or just a regular-sized pickup truck with 4 wheel drive and low gears.
For all the actual off road work I’ve done, the best vehicle has always been those little utility off-road vehicles (we call them mules or gators but I’m sure they have a real name) or just a regular-sized pickup truck with 4 wheel drive and low gears.
UTVs, side by sides, i’ve seen stuff like that used to refer to them in a more generic manner, shockingly those are so good primarily because they weigh nothing and have comparatively huge tires with way more surface area, while also having equivalent power if not more, just due to the size.
But what if I need to believe that others think my penis is bigger than it is? Is there any other way?
Get a properly sized pickup truck covered in dings and scratches showing you actually utilize the thing. Your penis is huge and you’ve got balls of steel! A paragon of masculinity!
A tank.
There’s no good reason for these pieces of shit to exist.
Have you considered the profits of the auto industry?
My uncle did a four wheel driving day in his Subaru Forrester one time and it could climb hills others couldn’t because it was so light.
I’ve also heard stories of farmers with tiny 4x4s like a Suzuki Jimny using them during floods because they don’t sink in the mud like the massive ones do
I prefer driving smaller cars in heavy snow because they’re light enough to sit on top and not get bogged down. Back when I had a commute in my tiny little Scion xA I’d drive by bro-dozers and SUVs stuck in the snow thinking their four-wheel drive would save them from being idiots.
I volunteered driving ambulances. Started in high school, 2003-2004. Our rigs at the time were a '97 Chevy van with a box and a '99 F250 with a box. They were the biggest things I’d driven at the time.
Moved away, did life, came back a decade later. Newest rigs were now 2015 F450 Super Duty with a box you could legit stand up in. Thing was unnecessarily large. All the things you’re saying are correct. The rig we purchased while I was there ended up being a slightly larger mod, but came with front, side, and rear cameras, because you’re absolutely right, can’t see shit. Blind spot in the front is legit 10-15 feet from the bumper.
You know what didn’t change in that interim? People’s windy, tiny driveways. I won’t toot my own horn but I’m a good driver, I frequently tell my wife “You could fit a Mac truck through there” when she’s driving and won’t squeeze through a gap. So when it came time to back these rigs up these narrow, curving driveways, up a hill, it was difficult. I’d have my crew get out generally and go begin assessment so I could get the rig in place for takedown. Problem is that I couldn’t drive all the time, and so the rig would frequently get left down on the road. And I don’t blame anyone, they were difficult maneuvers. I knew a few members who outright refused to drive the newer rigs becaude they were so massive, so now we’ve neutered our manpower.
Anyways, you know what I learned? These fucking things suck at off-roading.
no shit, they’re running live axle suspension, no amount of lift kit is going to get your diff case unstuck from the mud LMAO.
Doesn’t help that these idiots also put small tires on big rims to get that bafflingly stupid look on them, which lowers the ride quality, and lowers the axle even more.
I’m convinced you have to be brain damaged to own a bro dozer, let alone think an f150 with live axles can get around in mud. Bro almost nothing can, a humvee might do it, but it’s also literally built to do it. It’s got full independent suspension, nice large tires with high sidewalls, portal axles for increased clearance. It’s got a low cab, set next to the engine and transmission (that’s why they’re so wide) They’re short, so they can get around trees and shit and likewise have a low CG.
And f150 looks like it was built to be a parody of a hummer, and it’s no surprise that they drive and handle like shit as a result.
Completely. Give me a light Geländewagen (and I’m talking about the utility version that armies buy, not the blinged up Chelsea tractor version), with triple differential lock and it’ll out-drive these monster trucks any day, on any terrain, pulling the same weight.
please go send a 0 star review on constructors website.
oh shit you can’t !
There’s no good reason for these pieces of shit to exist.
So did you start taking an old civic to the in-the-bush job site then or what?
Edit: Or a midsize pickup or SUV or something? Helicopter? The down votes here are pretty absurd lol. I’m trying to figure out what vehicle to take to in-the-bush job sites in the future that can better handle the conditions, which the person I replied to specifically pointed out.
Most useful off-road vehicle I’ve ever driven was a lot like this thing: https://www.offroaderie.com/new-models/kawasaki-side-x-side-mule-sx-2036834140399698232475668
Or just a regular sized pickup truck, which I’ve also used for plenty of sites. But honestly I prefer the mules because they hold all the stuff I need for work and can fit through most forest understory. And in the rare chance that you happen to turtle them it’s possible to pull them off/out of whatever they’re stuck on. If you get a giant truck stuck in the mud you’re donezo.
I also took my Toyota Prius to plenty of sites, although I’d never off-road with it when the ground is swampy or sandy it did fine on plenty of rough roads and open fields. I’m sure a Subaru or other small all wheel drive sedan could handle lots of off-road work sites.
Thank you! Makes sense. I think I was sort of misreading your statement initially. And I guess I never really thought about the 350s and aboves useful applications (or lack thereof lol).
I’ll add my Honda Element did surprisingly well for many 1000s of km of rough logging roads once upon a time.
You dumbass
Both my brother in laws have huge modified trucks, both live in cities, both complain that the road infrastructure and parking doesn’t cater to their large vehicles… Also both have (probably) never used the truck bed.
They are so huge, tons of room in the cab. Feels like driving in a living room. Have to ride over curbs to get out of parking lots though
I once asked a friend with a truck to help me pickup a BBQ. When attempting to load it he got so worried about us scratching the truck bed that eventually we couldn’t proceed. Called another buddy with a minivan, we put a moving blanket down and off we went. No whining, just work.
dude minivans are crazy, you can fit a full 4x8 sheet of plywood in that bitch EZPZ
That’s golden hahaha
…minivans are fantastic purposeful vehicles and probably what one-quarter of SUVs should be driving; the other three-quarters should be driving cars if they hadn’t been swept up in the road-tank arms race…
Some of those curbs may also be kids, but who can tell.
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As someone from Texas, these are disgusting, and people driving this garbage are not friendly towards pedestrians at all. They have no self awareness sitting inside these killing machines.
The only reason for 99.9% of people to drive this garbage is to feel big when on the road. How petty.
There is also the factor of danger and safety. People are observing more gigantic cars on the road and being in a smaller one makes them feel unsafe. So they get a bigger one when they get a new car, perpetuating the problem.
Many of my family is in this. They keep getting bigger vehicles because they get the sense of safety. They cannot grasp how bad that mentality is and how wrong they are. And with bigger vehicles, it means that much less room for error too. And most people suck at driving. Not all the time, but that one time you make a mistake (as we all do) could be a big one in an oversized vehicle.
If there’s a full grown man standing in front of my truck and I can still see him, I just don’t feel safe!
What about a bear, though?
Black bears wouldn’t have a chance of survival being hit with that thing. Grizzlys might slow the truck down, maybe. A Polar Bear is the only type of bear I can think of that you’d really need a tank sized vehicle to deal with it. Heck even a Giant Panda is just gonna bat at you to get you to go away since you aren’t bamboo.
…polar bears are white grizzlies…
Given the size difference alone, no they are not.
Bears are stupid. I eat da honey, hurr durr.
I said it before and I’ll say it again.
Can we not live without a complete screenshot from Reddit? Are we not better than that?
Are we not better than that?
I think it’s abundantly clear that we are not better than that.
Is it any better than the people that screenshot instagram or Facebook to share on other social media? I’m not a fan of the low-effort share, all these platforms’ users are low-effort and rip off each other’s work to re-re-re-share it everywhere. I don’t see people here being too much different or Reddit content being any more objectionable than the rest.
No. It’s no different.
Never been to the US, only now with this picture do I realize the size of these things. That’s basically a monster truck ? are there many of them ?
This picture is from Australia. We don’t have many, they’re becoming more common but ones that are lifted like that are less common. In my area it’s mainly normal rams. Which are far bigger than normal aussie cars.
Visited upstate NY a couple of years ago. They accounted for I’d say 30-40% of all traffic. Of course, upstate NY is basically the southern US of the northern US if you know what I mean.
depends on where you go upstate, but yeah, rural America in general is where you find confederate flags
I was near lake Erie personally
I don’t, but I can understand percentages
What does that make Pennsyltucky?
Thanks I’m calling them monster trucks from now on
Picture is from Australia but yes the US is littered with these, especially in rural communities but there are more in the cities than their should be
Truck? It’s a fucking tank.
I live in Imperial Beach, California. There is absolutely no reason to have one of these monstrosities here, and none of the 15 that live in my neighborhood ever have any type of mud on them. Not even the 4 whose hoods are at my eye level, I’m 6’3" / 192cm, because they lifted the hell out of them. I will admit that the guy who has an 8’4" tall old school VW bug may be a bit strange, but at least that thing looks cool, and he has it as an advertisement for his shop, so there was a reason for him to have the thing.
Ironically the VW is the only one that ever has any mud on it.
…no, that’s just the common american pickup: monster trucks are much larger…
Both of these look terrible and very stressfull to drive.
My 2021 Seat Leon hatchback fits my entire family, with luggage for a weekend, while being fun and relaxing to drive.
These monstrosities are idiotic.
I hate how much they are spreading for no reason. We have rather small parking lots, especially in denser areas and underground parkings. Some 20 years ago that was never a problem at all. Now people take forever to park their shitty cars. People have to get out before they park, so they just stand in the way. Many use 2 parking spots because their fat asses can’t get out of their fat cars, or they just can’t drive in general and decided they need the biggest car they can afford to get groceries.
This shit is like tobacco. We all know it’s fucking awful and makes no sense, but some assholes insist.
So treat it the same way: massive taxes (upon purchase, but also yearly), banned in many public places (underground parking, city centers, …) and there you go.
Oh they can totally be, first job out of uni in 2012 had diesel f350 super duties as field service vehicles, they made sense for some jobs where it was super remote and rough driving (1000+ km a tank), they’ve since gone to 2 panel vans and a truck which is way more handy. They’re super high off the ground so you need to be careful and most importantly, use your mirrors, these were all tow capable so they had the larger mirrors with the second parabolic mirror, you can effectively minimise blind spots to your sides and behind (I think all car mirrors should be that way, I added them to my sedan’s mirrors) but they still turn slow and are heavy. A chunk of my coworkers outright refused to use them, instead opting for rentals, and others were definitely white knuckling it the entire time they used them.
Wouldn’t you want something light and small for off roading?
That should help you clear obstacles by goong over or around easier.
What vaultdweller said, ground clearance matters a lot if you’re not going fast, you can plow through a lot of snow in a truck that I’ve got stuck in a compact with.
It depends on the circumstances, ground clearance is a bitch. Seriously a light car say a Jeep Cherokee sport can have a lot of ground clearance via lift kit but it fucks with the balance. Meanwhile an f350 can just kinda do it by default.
From the US here. They have uses as work trucks but the majority of these bro-dozers are pristine and have have never hit any water deeper than a pothole in the road.
people keep saying that they have uses as work trucks and i’m not sure i believe them because they made smaller trucks in the 90s and 80s and those trucks were still for work?
I mean i’ve seen one of these things towing 5 fucking cars. I can’t think of the last time i had to load up 5 cars on a shipping trailer and then ship them on my fucking daily driver. Honestly i didn’t even think that was possible, but apparently it is, and i have no idea why people own these things as daily drivers now.
to be clear, my issue here is that saying they have uses is underselling the problem. You can hire a semi with a flatbed to ship a bag of sand. But that’s fucking stupid.
Everyone I know in the US that owns trucks like what op shared are all work trucks for general contractors or were bought to pull their giant campers. I know the bro-dozer community you’re talking about but those trucks are not usually new trucks like op’s. This is in rural America tho not the suburbs so maybe it’s different in other areas.
A neighbor runs his own plumbing company. He’s got an early 2000s Dodge and formerly an early 2000s Ford.
His main complaint about modern trucks, after the price, is the bed being too high for him to easily load and unload equipment.
Work vans are the superior work vehicle for the majority of use cases. Lower bed/floor height to make loading easier. Covered rear so your tools/product doesnt get wet or dirty. Able to carry a ton of equipment, taller models you can even stand in and use a workbench in the van. The side of the van is large and flat making it easier to print large letters and numbers to advertise the company. Most modern work vans have better visibility than similarly sized trucks.
Yeah I’m no mechanic but I think it’s from the way their doing the suspension to increase tow load. I can’t remember the truck models but it was the largest model vs the 2nd largest model had the exact same engine size and sp3cs but the larger truck had a way larger low weight than the other and I was told it all came down to the differences in the transmission and suspension. I 100% agree tho I have worked jobs that had trucks with beds that were so fuckin stupid high it turned loading/unloading to a 2 part or 2 person task. Once onto the tailgate. Second to move to front of bed when normally we could just give a good toss and load the truck in fraction of the time.
Okay but they’re not commercial vehicles…
Personally I live in Colorado and most people who drive trucks that size here use them for offroading. Given the gas mileage they’re very impractical for day to day.
Not arguing with the statement being made here but the tilt shift photography makes that picture much worse than it is in reality. Again, I completely disagree with these giant atrocities rolling down the road but still this photo is not accurate by any means.
I see some blurring, probably deliberate, on the left edge of the image. I don’t think this is “tilt shifted” and I don’t think the effect you’re describing would make the one truck seem larger than the other.
I don’t disagree with your point that the image is chosen specifically because it excessively highlights the difference in size… but I’d say it has more to do with the angle and the order of the trucks than any post fx.
Also, srsly: no tilt shift.
That’s cool, I’m no photographer but there’s something at play here skewing the perspective. Def not gonna argue if it is or isn’t tilt shift, I don’t fuckin know
Yeah, depth of field is all over the map. It doesn’t make sense. Text in focus behind the truck, but not the SUV, even though it’s further away.
My vote is a composite. Several images merged together.
EDIT: oh yeah. Tree is a seam. Bush behind the truck bed is 2 colors and focuses. And the trucks back bumper… bad masking.
Tilt shift generally makes things look miniature like a model.
Are we sure it isn’t just the automatic filters that get applied when you snap a photo on a modern smartphone? Like where it tries to pick out the subject and blur the background?
Remember that photo of the Bidens with the Carters where the Bidens looked like giants compared to the Carters? It was an illusion caused by the use of a wide angle lense. Makes things around the edge look bigger.
This photo looks like it was taken with a wide angle lens and then the left side was cropped off. Look at the difference in size between the wheels on the truck.
These pickup trucks are still stupid though.
I dont know much about much or anything either but I thought tilt shift made things look smaller but idk you know
No I know you know but I don’t know you know.
It makes pictures of normal things from far away look like photographs of toys
There is no tilt shifting in that photo. Neither physical (by actually tilting a single lens inside the lens assembly) nor digital. What you’re seeing as blurryness is just normal how camera focus works.
They may have applied a slight vignette blur to the edges, but it’s really hard to tell with the light bleed on the left edge.
He means there is deliberate perspective making the big truck even bigger in the photo.
Notice how the whels of the small SUV are the same size. And the front tire on the big truck is like 20% bigger than the rear.
That may well be the case that this is what he means, but how would we know when he calls it tilt shift anyway? Cause that’s not what “tilt shift” means.
If he wants to say it’s photoshopped or whatever, just say that instead of using terms that clearly don’t apply.
Some people don’t have the words for stuff sometimes. Sorry I can’t smart enough.
I think you mean forced perspective, not tilt shift. Those are two different things in photography.
The width of these things as well. You probably couldn’t fit that in my driveway without taking the mirrors off. If you somehow managed it, you’d only be getting in and out through the sunroof.
These guys are always parked in two compact spots and then complain that the spots are too small. And they never get towed.
Takes up their whole Texas McMansion driveway.
Left side: cars are getting bigger in Europe
Right side: MURICAAA!!!11
Looks like Australia according to the image, but from what I gather that’s just America with death spiders anyway lol
Australia is not just the US with death spiders.
Aussie land is factorio. America is like a civ game or a city builder.
