• bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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    Fucking do it already, I’m tired of the roller coaster. Let them have their MAGA utopia of Dumbfuckistan and leave the rest of us be to maybe finally start fixing things that have been broken for half a century.

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    I’m sure the blue states won’t have an issue losing the subsidies-dependent red states. I wonder where flyover country wants to get the money from to keep up their lifestyle.

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    What’s going on with MTG right now? Release the results of the congressional investigations, allowing the crooks and paedophiles to be driven out as the cripplingly stupid welfare queen red states seceed to starve as the blue states enter an era of prosperity… Broken clocks and whatnot, I suppose.

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    Marjorie Taylor Dumbfuck here doesn’t realize that her state, and in fact all Republican-led states, are solely dependent on blue state generosity in order to continue to exist. I’m sure the blue states would absolutely love for these freeloading welfare states to leave the union, because it would offer an immediate federal surplus that could be better allocated on themselves. It will never happen, because the smart conservatives love having a never-ending money faucet they can gargle when their economic plans fail due to their own ineptitude.

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      Poetic, and agreed on all points. I stress because if these fucking morons are dumb enough to try, I have to predict it so I can get the fuck out before everything collapses.

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    About the only thing that would make me happier than to have the entire pacific west coast secede and create a sovereign nation would be for Trump to do it for us so we don’t have to fight a war over it. You want us gone? Please, show us the exit, we’ll be on our way. No takebacksies.

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      It’ll never happen. US Military would never willingly split itself apart, let itself get split apart, or let another nation that it’s not allied with have any sort of Army on its equivalent. The 50 states are here to stay.

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          Even a peaceful division of the US would be something they would seriously benefit from. The US permanently divided against itself, each side easy to manipulate into a military conflict against the other. We would have nukes pointed at each other within a decade. It would be like the splitting of India and Pakistan, along with all the accompanying human rights atrocities.

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        The US military is going to be replaced by Trump loyalists. Whatever he wants to happen is what’s gonna happen.

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          I doubt it. He can barely run his shit past the civilian government. I’d be surprised if he knows that the UCMJ exists. The brass aren’t going to just fall in line, they know what an illegal order is, and what to do when they are given one.

          He may manage to be the first POTUS that is ever told by the military that they have no confidence in him, and will refuse to take orders from him.

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            Maybe. But I also see a lot of trump support within the military. I really don’t think it will be as cut and dry as you say. Especially if he goes through with his prosecuting and removal of every military officer involved in the Afghanistan exit, which to me just seems like a way to pick and choose loyalists in his military.

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              That’s the thing he is going to find out. There are procedures for these things, and I seriously doubt that he can luck into getting consistent panels of 5 JAG that will throw the book at people over fabricated evidence. Also what he isn’t taking into account is that all of them have the defence that he ordered them to do it, so the buck stops with him. Having the military put the POTUS under military tribunal because he forced them to would be pretty funny though.

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      It’s expansive here in the places you may want to live, but seriously… It’s worth it. There’s also a lot of cheap places that aren’t as ideal.

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    Oh look, a broken clock.

    How many times do we need to keep this nation “united” at gunpoint before we acknowledge that the science and reason people are incompatible with the supply side Jesus and racial hatred people? We can’t stand one another, and time only deepens that division until bloodshed, over and over.

    You can’t educate those cultures that refuse to be educated or have their children educated. That kind of change, born of desperation and constant struggle inflicted from your own culture’s values needs to come from within. The Red States need their Martin Luther “maybe we shouldn’t punch ourselves in the face every day” reformation moment, and it isn’t rational for those that see beyond their ignorance and superstition be dragged down with them for generations until they get there. Blue states propping them up only prolong comfort in their ignorance.

    You can’t force cultural evolution or save the willfully ignorant from their own willlfull ignorance from outside on Alabama any more than you can on Afghanistan, all you do is create a common enemy for them, as we continue to experience.

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      I have held this stance for many years (am not American though), and everytime I proposed it someone from the US told me “Nooo we’ve had that in the past and we fought a civil war in order to stay together!!! We can’t split!” and I think it’s like a broken marriage that was never easy to begin with that’s just being held together because the parties are too stubborn to say “ok well let’s split up”. It’s an unhealthy relationship.

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    If it weren’t mainly a rural vs. urban split, I’d be all for the fascists getting their own country to ruin. But we’re too spread out to make it feasible.

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      Yeah, we’d essentially become three countries - the West, the East, and the No-Go Zone in the middle. Just get us New Mexicans to somewhere decent before all borders close.

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      If it weren’t mainly a rural vs. urban split, I

      Yeah, we’d have to move them somewhere, perhaps down South… Make the link around say Virginia… Sounds familiar, but I can’t lay my finger on it…

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    Yeah, divorce yourself from all those states that send you money because you’re too backward to care for yourself. Sounds like a great idea!