No commentary here. I just think we should find more comrades and bring them into our fold. How do we do it? Post your ideas, no matter how wild. Maybe someone will see it and get inspired and make something happen.
Apply chemical fertilizer, till and disc the winter before.
Start the seeds indoors two or three weeks before the last frost date, move them to bigger containers as required.
Plant in the prepared plot and spread mulch.
Use mesh/stakes as needed to support growth.
Keep the plot weed and pest free.
We need to move further to the right and get a Cheney endorsement.
I always assumed Hexbear had no desire for growth, if anything it feels uncouth to invite randos to Hexbear for fear of diluting it or libbing it up.
I guess we gotta trust in our mod team
a person I know irl was asking “what app is that” when they saw the hexbear on my phone and I said it’s where the most militantly pro-trans tankie communists post, and they said they’d check it out.
I said it’s where the most militantly pro-trans tankie communists post
The smoking reefer scene from Walk Hard, but it’s about Hexbear instead.
Hexbear? It’s not habit forming and it makes sex feel better
Which would make a good meme.
Generally the way a thing grows is by getting visibility elsewhere.
This is achieved in companies by sockpuppet sharing (marketing team intentionally targeting other spaces with re-shares of content), watermarks, advertising, collaborations and generally being edgy enough that people talk about you for the fact your existence is novel.
One of the things this community doesn’t do enough of is talk about or share Hexbear outside of Hexbear, like it’s some secret or too embarrassing to mention.
One thing I see on tiktok that Hexbear isn’t doing is slideshows, there’s easy content to produce like “best of hexbear” which is just reposting a slideshow of 4-5 memes, run by an official hexbear account. Reddit does this. It’s relatively easy to do this two ways, targeting leftist stuff and targeting trans stuff, “sharing hexbear memes” (trans) is easy trans bait.
too embarrassing to mention
I always liked the memes that were just shit like “silence, liberal ” with a chapo/hb watermark, that always seemed like it would snag the kind of people that would fit in here
One thing I see on tiktok that Hexbear isn’t doing is slideshows, there’s easy content to produce like “best of hexbear” which is just reposting a slideshow of 4-5 memes, run by an official hexbear account.
That’s a really good idea
With trans memes too they don’t even necessarily need to be from here lmao, although if you have good ones you should post them here too lol. But generally just reposting shit works and the algo will do the rest eventually.
The main barrier is having someone that wants to do it and keeps it up consistently.
We could do a member interest check similar to the mod interest checks and get 2-3 people on the TikTok account to possibly solve the consistency issue.
By continuously purging and fragmenting all the comms until every user has their own
Here’s my idea: provide resources and help that other spaces aren’t providing. The mutual aid comm is a great example of this, but I’ve also been thinking there’s probably a lot more we could provide especially to trans/queer communities. Some folks on the site are already started doing great work in this regard but I think it would be cool and useful to start having for more discussions on DIY help for example, including making and sourcing, though we also want to be careful about this and not get unwanted attention. I’d love to hear feedback on this if anyone has any.
If the anarchist’s cookbook was so good how come they never made a sequel?
There is a sequel called Recipes for Disaster, but it’s somewhat tamer than the original.
Yeah the cookbook itself is a joke but I just mean the broader concept of “secret repository of DIY stuff the government won’t tell you about”
Ironically, the government is the best source of DIY stuff the government won’t tell you about
https://archive.org/details/usa-tm-31-210-improvised-munitions-handbook
Agree that providing resources other sites don’t or can’t will attract people
I think well worded effort posts could be picked up by search engines or easily spread to other sites but then we’d have to effort post
Memes are good but the basic ones are a dime a dozen, effort posts and resources are way more difficult to compile on other sites
Yandex really likes us but federation devalues us on Google and Bing
I’ve never found any Lemmy post by searching even though I know there are relevant posts to things I search for. I mostly use duck duck go. Is Lemmy even included in search engines?
I use duckduckgo and before when I’ve search niche leftist topics that I’ve seen on here, ive gotten results from this site
That may have been before we federated though?
The DIY care thing would be very timely too.
I think the fakenews and badposting sections should be banned. There are a lot of people that browse the site on mobile while not logged in and they get bombarded by badpost after badpost that are the lowest of the low when it comes to effort (e.g. “instead of getting swol why don’t we get swoletariot???”). Even in this thread someone posted “I post my butt and call the website OnlyButts.” Seriously, wtf. If not banned, they should be hidden by default unless explicitly opted into. Just make them NFSW so they don’t show up while browsing while logged out.
Also, the site should try to be more like lemmygrad in terms of being serious about things. There are too many posts that just reek of a weird mix of ironic and non-irony. What I mean is, people will be serious when it’s a topic they personally are invested in, but on other topics, they just resort to childish toilet humor and say that this is nothing more than a shitposting forum. It’s the schrodinger’s hexbear: topic I care about = super serious get all mods on defcom4, topic i don’t care about = dIdN’T yOu KnOw that this isn’t real life, it’s just the internet hurrr durr it’s a shitposting forum. Imagine all the global south comrades looking in on this. It’s just not a good look, and yes what I’m saying is that there should be at least some degree of optics for fuck’s sake.
Another thing, people need to take seriously the other pipelines that draw potential comrades away. One serious one is the joe rogan, lonely male pipeline. They may be alienated by capitalism, but on a personal level they are looking for advice on how to maybe get a date or something. Maybe some actual concrete advice (e.g. start hitting the gym, fix your hair, hygiene, conversational tips, actual dating advice). Like Bell Hooks is all good, but we can’t just tell people “here read this book, even tho most ppl in society don’t really read anymore.” Like some actual decent agitprop that isn’t READING A FUCKING BOOK OVER 100 PAGES FOR FUCKS SAKE. Like a short tiktok, then transition into shorter youtube vids, and then maybe recommending a book. Most ppl here don’t even read communist theory so why such a big ask for potential comrades to do so much investment. I hate to say it, but you gotta use some kind of sales principles like not blasting someone with a huge investment up front without giving anything in return.
Lastly (and there are so many more i’m just tired of typing) the mods shouldn’t poo poo this site as a way to organize. They always respond with “this is just a nondescript hole in the wall lefting shitposting site not a subsitute for real life organizing.” Motherfucker the reason ppl are here is because they are isolated/alienated and maybe lack the social cirlces (or social skills to create one) to do real life organizing work. And patronizing them by saying “join an org” is just that, patronizing. The stupid ass Jan 6 guys met up due to internet shit, so why not have a disciplined “organizing” comm or something?
Also, the site should try to be more like lemmygrad in terms of being serious about things.
Yeah, no. There’s already a thing for that. It’s called, uhh (checks notes) lemmygrad.
Oh. Right.
The problem with getting rid of the badposting comm is that it doesn’t stop people from posting that crap. They just do it on other comms so now everyone has to see it. Sucks that the only solution is to log in but I curate my comms and when I’m logged in the Hexbear experience is much better. I don’t like badposting any more than you but unfortunately having a quarantine comm is the only practical solution.
Are private communities a thing in lemmy? That would make it opt-in. Posts would not be visible non-logged-in
fakenews
I think fakenews com is pretty BAD and pointless if we’re not making our own The Onion style website to put it on.
Yeah, as much as I like the shitposting it perhaps would benefit everyone if the lower effort stuff got reined in a bit
Naw, I don’t think so. I like the ethos of “all posting is good posting” thats been essential to building the vibe of the site to this point. It’s how Hexbear gains it’s powerful posters
Badposting is the basketball hoop in the driveway where users hone their posting skills. I want to see people out there at 6 AM doing “3… 2… 1…” lobs buzzer beater, misses “0.5… 0.4…” lobs ball
GOOD posts getting reposted on tiktok, Instagram, Reddit - in that order too, maybe?
Very simple.
A struggling theatre near me has refused to spend money on proper internet advertising. They spend most of it on big posters on the London underground. Well, recently one of the cast members made a concerted effort to post about it on tiktok - behind the scenes post, character profiles, mini interviews.
The theatre just had it’s first completely sold out run in years.
Everything the tiktok algorithm touches turns into gold.
Then again, perhaps the content doesn’t translate well since it’s not video. In which case, Reddit and Instagram posts.
I think 2-3 years ago people were putting Hexbear watermarks on a lot of stuff.
What if instead of a dunk tank, we had a “so close to getting it” section where we stumble over each other to brigade the space in question to agitate left-leaning people?
those watermarks are not easy to find IMO, I remember looking and finding lots of dead links, or dead links with the chapo.chat version being the only result.
I like this idea. Put in a comm request!
I got here years ago because someone posted a link on reddit. I think it was on r/trueanon. Are people still doing that?
I feel like posting HB links is most effective during periods of decades happening. People want the posts. But the last thing I’m thinking about when things get wild is “I should post HB links on reddit”.
I do think that while the shit posting part of this site is great, and honestly what drew me in, it’s the effort posts and theory discussion which kept me here. I think this component of this site is lacking promotion. Effort posting gets buried under the nth slop post. It looks like we now have unlimited pinned posts, so maybe pinning a recent effort post for a few days would drive more engagement there and promote that kind of posting more.
I feel like if we did start to market HB or whatever, posting links to effort and theory posts is not a bad idea. While the general vibe here is shitposty (and I think thats generally good because it keeps things casual), there aren’t many places on the internet to have in depth theory discussions. I think part of this is there is a kind of ideological consistency here, even if we don’t always agree, that provides a nice basis on which to have these discussions.
Idk, I like this site. I would be sad to see it die, but I also don’t think it will anytime soon even without much growth.
I came from a link on /r/thedeprogram earlier this year
I would love some way to focus more on the effort posts. both to be able to see them more myself and get them more visibility. Especially over time. Even if something get lots of upvotes it’ll only be on the front page for a day or less. Or worse: lost in hundreds of comments in the megas. But saying this I know it would require some sort of consistent curatorial-type labor. So idk.
I find compared to reddit, Lemmy in general is not as encouraging for effort posts because they get lost. Is there even a good way to search relevant comms? The whole reason I started using reddit was that you could find so much good information. Also the “flare” for posts was really helpful in reddit.
I don’t know if that would be relevant to general recruitment because the bottle neck is likely earlier than this. But if you want to encourage nerdy behavior and nerd retention than it is an issue.
it seems as though this site is a barely tenable balance between shitposting and nerdism. Both required and both facilitate each other but always a pervasive tension .
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I mean just spread the link around. Go into other communities and tell them about here.
It’ll be very incestuous though since there’s no “One Big Leftist Forum” to leech off of all we’d be doing is getting people off other niche communities. Which is fine but it’s not all that significant one way or the other.
all we’d be doing is getting people off
I’m gonna write to Soros to increase our funding. Maybe we can buy some billboards in Ohio.