Did anyone stop to think that the kid is less of a victim than everyone is making him out to be? He had front row fucking tickets to the US Open. The kid is obviously the child of some other fucking parasite that hoards money.
Children can be victims both incidentally and circumstancially while born to privilege, their victimization even if minor doesn’t require rationalization this way especially when the man in question is so obviously and clearly in the wrong.
Its less about the kid and more about how there exist “people” in this world who have fallen to such depths of depravity due to biological (psychopathy) and economic factors that they quite literally snatch candy from children.
I admit that “psychopathy” is an outdated term but how is it being a nazi to say that sociopathy is caused mostly by brain structure? I understand that it has been used as a slippery slope to eugenics but it doesn’t have to be because eugenics is a terrible idea, there are more humane solutions to manage sociopaths like not having a society that enables their behaviour and early childhood intervention. I’m open to learning the truth and apologizing if I am wrong.
I admit that “psychopathy” is an outdated term but how is it being a nazi to say that sociopathy is caused mostly by brain structure?
Firstly, terms like “psychopath” and “sociopath” have a long history of being used to abuse and persecute neurodivergent people.
Secondly, you are diagnosing a person who you know nothing about with an extremely complicated mental condition.
I’m open to learning the truth and apologizing if I am wrong.
Looking through your moderation history, you have had at least 2 years to learn. Unfortunately you seem to be more occupied with jerking off to underage videogame characters than you are with becoming a better person.
Yeah I believe that things like SA, fascism, genocide, and hoarding wealth are sub-human behaviours, is that wrong?
Use of “ape” as an insult.
Yeah I agree its an insult to call IOF members who do despicable genocidal crimes against humanity “apes” because apes are better than them. I apologize to all primates.
Usage of ableist “REEE”.
I didn’t know it was ableist at the time, I acknowledge I made a mistake, and I’m not going to use it again. Simple.
Misgendering.
You’re wrong, where is the misgendering?
Banned for “History of racism, ableism, misanthropy and hostility”.
Yeah that was because I called IOF members sub-human. I have no history of racism. I can accept hostility and misanthropy but I don’t do that anymore except against zionazis. The hostility and misanthropy was because I got too mad at people who I perceived to be ableist.
A nazi bar is a space where bigoted views become dominant due to a lack of censorship.
Ok if in your experience using the word “psychopath” as an insult *towards the bourgeoisie leads to bigoted views becoming dominant then I’ll retract my comment and apologize.
Psychopathy is not an outdated term, it’s a current medical term with a specific meaning that is not the same as the meaning of sociopathy. It is true that there is a correlation between so-called “dark triad” traits (which include psychopathy but not sociopathy) and being rich on account of the fact that even shitty people are sometimes “held back” from the greatest degree of corporate success by a sense of empathy that psychopaths, who can be either shitty or decent people like anyone else, don’t have, but the majority of people with both conditions are not bourgeois and never will be.
It’s so easy to just look things up even for the most cursory knowledge about them before making proclamations about them. It also should probably raise a little alarm bell in your head to say that any biological marker is really worth mentioning for explaining someone being bourgeois.
Psychopathy is not an outdated term, it’s a current medical term with a specific meaning that is not the same as the meaning of sociopathy.
What I mean by that is afaik there is no formal “psychopath disorder”, nor admittedly is there a “sociopath disorder” in the DSM5, only ASPD.
that any biological marker is really worth mentioning for explaining someone being bourgeois
You’re figuratively putting words in my mouth. Im saying that there are possible differences in brain structure that if not given the proper support can lead to very antisocial behaviour like the one shown in the video, *as a causal factor in addition to being bourgeois (economic position leading to harmful behaviours).
Psychopathy exists even in the DSM, it’s just not its own disorder. One can still talk about someone prominently featuring psychopathic traits and meaningfully say that someone is a “psychopath” under this criteria (because not everyone with ASPD substantially features psychopathic traits), it just isn’t viewed as being a self-contained condition, which is different from it not existing or not being a meaningful, useful term. There are also many other respected sources of more modest scope than the DSM that use psychopathy as part of personality inventories and such.
You’re figuratively putting words in my mouth. Im saying that there are possible differences in brain structure that if not given the proper support can lead to very antisocial behaviour like the one shown in the video, *as a causal factor in addition to being bourgeois (economic position leading to harmful behaviours).
You have literally no evidence that this person has ASPD besides that they did something pointlessly mean (can you see why some people might take umbrage with that?), and if anything it more resembled sociopathic behavior if you insist on putting things in those boxes, but statistically he probably is not any type of ASPD because they are rare in the overall population and the “dark triad” bias, though statistically significant, is not overwhelming (and also includes other elements). There is nothing useful or epistemically sound about saying, in a way that you took pains to clarify was literal by saying “biological” this and “brain structure” that, that this person actually has a specific personality disorder.
it just isn’t viewed as being a self-contained condition
Yeah that’s what I was trying to say. I apologize for not being sufficiently clear.
You have literally no evidence that this person has ASPD
Yeah I don’t think I need further “evidence” to informally label someone a sociopath for hoarding wealth and behaving like a monster towards children. I never claimed to be a psychologist qualified to diagnose people nor that my comment acts as a formal medical diagnosis in any way. Stop acting like the bastards defamation lawyer.
in a way that you took pains to clarify was literal by saying “biological” this and “brain structure” that
Ok this is cope and the least charitable interpretation of what I wrote.
So, to re iterate, the dbzero person said the kid isn’t a victim.
I replied saying that no it isn’t about the kid, it’s more about the millionaire’s abhorrent behaviour that can be possibly explained by both “psychopathy”, which has a biological cause (never stated that it’s the only cause because that’s wrong) and the guys class position.
Again this isn’t me formally, medically, diagnosing the millionaire on any authority, that would be wrong and stupid, you are absolutely correct. I am using the label “psychopath”/“sociopath” as a shorthand for demonstrating really fucked up, damaging behaviour to the extent that it’s reasonable to assume the person may have an inherent condition partly caused by biological factors.
On one hand, I apologize for not being sufficiently clear and hedging my statements enough to demonstrate that I am not offering any form of formal, serious, medical diagnosis.
On the other hand, I thought it was reasonable to assume the latter statement about randoms shit posting about how millionaires are bad.
can you see why some people might take umbrage with that?
Because they are experts in the field and are frustrated by flippant use of their subject area’s terminology? Other than that I genuinely have no idea other than that they have been formally diagnosed with ASPD and take offense.
That seems like a reason to empathize with the kid for being groomed into anti-social behavior rather than blame him for a bunch of things he hasn’t done yet and we don’t know for certain he will do.
Remind me again, has the bourgeoisie class decided that the lives of the children of the workers are precious things to be protected, or have they decided (either directly or indirectly) that our children is acceptable collateral for their exploitation of us and the world they inhabit?
nothing about this is about the working class? this is some guy failing to comport with cloying bourgeois sentimentality.
the child does nothing wrong by being born. but he will want for nothing, and his disappointment in getting or not getting a hat is immaterial to anything outside of the maintenance of liberal etiquette. which is, of course, why the entire board is so incensed by it.
All the theory in the world couldn’t justify going to bat for a CEO who snatches something he wants like a spoiled toddler and justifies it with Edgelord’s First Social Darwinism.
All the theory in the world couldn’t justify going to bat for a CEO who snatches something he wants like a spoiled toddler and justifies it with Edgelord’s First Social Darwinism.
omg this dude is so uhhhh
like bro its a child ,a millionaire stole a hat ,how are you both sidsing this
Did anyone stop to think that the kid is less of a victim than everyone is making him out to be? He had front row fucking tickets to the US Open. The kid is obviously the child of some other fucking parasite that hoards money.
Fuck them both.
Children can be victims both incidentally and circumstancially while born to privilege, their victimization even if minor doesn’t require rationalization this way especially when the man in question is so obviously and clearly in the wrong.
That kid is really a 600 year old Hapsburg that cracks open orphans and drinks their adrenochrome to stay young. Don’t be naive.
Ladislaus the Post-Posthumous.
Sure and I’m sure the kid is a little shit. But he’s a kid. So critical support to the child vs the adult scum
Its less about the kid and more about how there exist “people” in this world who have fallen to such depths of depravity due to biological (psychopathy) and economic factors that they quite literally snatch candy from children.
hexbear is going to become a nazi bar if “people” like you aren’t purged from here
I admit that “psychopathy” is an outdated term but how is it being a nazi to say that sociopathy is caused mostly by brain structure? I understand that it has been used as a slippery slope to eugenics but it doesn’t have to be because eugenics is a terrible idea, there are more humane solutions to manage sociopaths like not having a society that enables their behaviour and early childhood intervention. I’m open to learning the truth and apologizing if I am wrong.
Firstly, terms like “psychopath” and “sociopath” have a long history of being used to abuse and persecute neurodivergent people. Secondly, you are diagnosing a person who you know nothing about with an extremely complicated mental condition.
Looking through your moderation history, you have had at least 2 years to learn. Unfortunately you seem to be more occupied with jerking off to underage videogame characters than you are with becoming a better person.
Removed by mod
A nazi bar is a space where bigoted views become dominant due to a lack of censorship.
Frequent use of “subhuman” as an insult.
Use of “ape” as an insult.
Usage of ableist “REEE”.
Use of “genetic abomination” as an insult.
Misgendering.
Banned for “History of racism, ableism, misanthropy and hostility”.
Attributed cruel behaviour to “Biological factors”.
Yeah I believe that things like SA, fascism, genocide, and hoarding wealth are sub-human behaviours, is that wrong?
Yeah I agree its an insult to call IOF members who do despicable genocidal crimes against humanity “apes” because apes are better than them. I apologize to all primates.
I didn’t know it was ableist at the time, I acknowledge I made a mistake, and I’m not going to use it again. Simple.
You’re wrong, where is the misgendering?
Yeah that was because I called IOF members sub-human. I have no history of racism. I can accept hostility and misanthropy but I don’t do that anymore except against zionazis. The hostility and misanthropy was because I got too mad at people who I perceived to be ableist.
Ok if in your experience using the word “psychopath” as an insult *towards the bourgeoisie leads to bigoted views becoming dominant then I’ll retract my comment and apologize.
Yes. “Subhuman” is primarily used as a label by white supremacists to degrade anyone who is different to them.
Calling me “mate” (a gendered term that applies to men) when my pronouns are right next to my name
Psychopathy is not an outdated term, it’s a current medical term with a specific meaning that is not the same as the meaning of sociopathy. It is true that there is a correlation between so-called “dark triad” traits (which include psychopathy but not sociopathy) and being rich on account of the fact that even shitty people are sometimes “held back” from the greatest degree of corporate success by a sense of empathy that psychopaths, who can be either shitty or decent people like anyone else, don’t have, but the majority of people with both conditions are not bourgeois and never will be.
It’s so easy to just look things up even for the most cursory knowledge about them before making proclamations about them. It also should probably raise a little alarm bell in your head to say that any biological marker is really worth mentioning for explaining someone being bourgeois.
What I mean by that is afaik there is no formal “psychopath disorder”, nor admittedly is there a “sociopath disorder” in the DSM5, only ASPD.
You’re figuratively putting words in my mouth. Im saying that there are possible differences in brain structure that if not given the proper support can lead to very antisocial behaviour like the one shown in the video, *as a causal factor in addition to being bourgeois (economic position leading to harmful behaviours).
This is a slightly misleading distinction:
Psychopathy exists even in the DSM, it’s just not its own disorder. One can still talk about someone prominently featuring psychopathic traits and meaningfully say that someone is a “psychopath” under this criteria (because not everyone with ASPD substantially features psychopathic traits), it just isn’t viewed as being a self-contained condition, which is different from it not existing or not being a meaningful, useful term. There are also many other respected sources of more modest scope than the DSM that use psychopathy as part of personality inventories and such.
You have literally no evidence that this person has ASPD besides that they did something pointlessly mean (can you see why some people might take umbrage with that?), and if anything it more resembled sociopathic behavior if you insist on putting things in those boxes, but statistically he probably is not any type of ASPD because they are rare in the overall population and the “dark triad” bias, though statistically significant, is not overwhelming (and also includes other elements). There is nothing useful or epistemically sound about saying, in a way that you took pains to clarify was literal by saying “biological” this and “brain structure” that, that this person actually has a specific personality disorder.
deleted by creator
Yeah that’s what I was trying to say. I apologize for not being sufficiently clear.
Yeah I don’t think I need further “evidence” to informally label someone a sociopath for hoarding wealth and behaving like a monster towards children. I never claimed to be a psychologist qualified to diagnose people nor that my comment acts as a formal medical diagnosis in any way. Stop acting like the bastards defamation lawyer.
Ok this is cope and the least charitable interpretation of what I wrote.
So, to re iterate, the dbzero person said the kid isn’t a victim.
I replied saying that no it isn’t about the kid, it’s more about the millionaire’s abhorrent behaviour that can be possibly explained by both “psychopathy”, which has a biological cause (never stated that it’s the only cause because that’s wrong) and the guys class position.
Again this isn’t me formally, medically, diagnosing the millionaire on any authority, that would be wrong and stupid, you are absolutely correct. I am using the label “psychopath”/“sociopath” as a shorthand for demonstrating really fucked up, damaging behaviour to the extent that it’s reasonable to assume the person may have an inherent condition partly caused by biological factors.
On one hand, I apologize for not being sufficiently clear and hedging my statements enough to demonstrate that I am not offering any form of formal, serious, medical diagnosis.
On the other hand, I thought it was reasonable to assume the latter statement about randoms shit posting about how millionaires are bad.
Because they are experts in the field and are frustrated by flippant use of their subject area’s terminology? Other than that I genuinely have no idea other than that they have been formally diagnosed with ASPD and take offense.
damn preach sister
damn preach sister
Nah
Yeah but at the end of the day it’s just a kid. He didn’t choose to be born into wealth.
If any of us won the sperm lottery then we’d be up there stealing hats and pissing on the poors too.
not me, i’d be a class traitor
That seems like a reason to empathize with the kid for being groomed into anti-social behavior rather than blame him for a bunch of things he hasn’t done yet and we don’t know for certain he will do.
Remind me again, has the bourgeoisie class decided that the lives of the children of the workers are precious things to be protected, or have they decided (either directly or indirectly) that our children is acceptable collateral for their exploitation of us and the world they inhabit?
I don’t understand the relevance of this.
Bit weird to get this mad at what appears to be a prepubescent child, no matter how rich his parents are.
☝️ this
Lib take
No, I am not a pedo.
i’ll excuse the extermination of the romanovs but i draw the line at my favorite little fauntleroy not getting his little hat
How does a rich douchebag stealing a hat from a clueless kid improve the material conditions of the working class
nothing about this is about the working class? this is some guy failing to comport with cloying bourgeois sentimentality.
the child does nothing wrong by being born. but he will want for nothing, and his disappointment in getting or not getting a hat is immaterial to anything outside of the maintenance of liberal etiquette. which is, of course, why the entire board is so incensed by it.
So, you’re completely unfamiliar with how the decision to assassinate Alexei was justified.
all the Theory in the World couldn’t justify caring about the fate of this liberal hat.
log off bro
All the theory in the world couldn’t justify going to bat for a CEO who snatches something he wants like a spoiled toddler and justifies it with Edgelord’s First Social Darwinism.
omg this dude is so uhhhh
like bro its a child ,a millionaire stole a hat ,how are you both sidsing this
CHILDREN SHOULD NEVER BE KILLED
ITS A FUCKING CHILD YOU WEIRDO