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Always important to remember that a lot of these robots are “faking” the humanlike motions – its a property of how they’re trained not an inherent property of the hardware. They’re actually capable of way weirder stuff and way faster motions.
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That initial drop down freaked me the fuck out.
dark souls move tbh
‘Faking’ AKA doing what it was programmed to do, I hate this presentation that we’re already inside an Asimov story and the machines are waiting for their opportunity to turn on us when the people selling the machines are the ones who have already turned on us
Everyone gangasta until the bot goes full the ring mode and starts demonic crab-walk running toward you.
“Our robot can Limbo!”
“Our robot can 8th-circle-of-Hell!”Love putting all this effort into designing a simulacrum of a human just to make it spider run
Being able to make a mechanical body literally any way you want, and then being so vain that you have to make it look like a person
I took an interview with Tesla a while back (not because I had any intention of working there, just to hear about it). Recruiter mentioned how the company is basically all in on their humanoid robot.
I asked - why humanoid? Why not better forms or purpose-built for specific/subsets of tasks? The answer was basically Elon wants his factories operated by humanoid robots. That’s it. No greater degree of thought from one of the most “valuable” companies in the world in designing what is intended to be a flagship product.
knowing nothing about anything (except that I’m built different, so, sorry mao but I DO have a right to comment without investigation) I’m just gonna say making robots look like people is 100% “we’re doing this to get investor money” shit, like, it’s just to get the public and rich idiots to soyface and dump money into their company, because yeah, there isn’t really a reason to ever have a robot look like a human unless it’s in some sort of “customer” facing role where it’s dealing with people and the simulation of being human might ease anxiety or tension, or if you were like, idk, trying to build replacement bodies for people (but lol at the rate we’re going I doubt that’ll ever happen, but I do expect something like “you die and they just put a chatGPT “copy” in a robot and say it’s you now, welcome to a new level of hell, society” to happen)
if a robot is made for something it’s gotta have some sort of shape that is going to be better suited to its purpose than being humanoid. You could argue being humanoid makes it sized for humanoid spaces and tools, but like, you could just make it a different shape and still figure out a way to give it hands if you need to have it use interchangeable human tools
I think the human body is the way it is for a reason. It’s good at a lot of different tasks, so if you want to make a robot that can be used for a lot of different tasks (especially in a world where a lot of shit is designed around the human body) an anthropomorphic robot seems like a good idea. Like sure, a billion different hyper-specialized robot designs would be better, but are they enough better to justify the extra design time over just using the human shape we already know works?
Booty, buddy, if you had my body idk if you’d be saying the human body works
We’ve built the world so humans can do things, for obvious reasons, doesn’t really mean that’s particularly efficient. You’re much better off investing the money into changing the built world so a few specialized robots can do it at like 3000x the efficiency.
The fancy thing about those humanoid things is they can walk / balance. Which is impressive, but where do you need this? I can come up with: SAR and Disaster Relief and that would be sick as fuck, but even for latter pretty sure something like a spiderbot would fare better (jurys out on the psychological issues around being rescued by the spiderbot).
4 legs is better than 2.
8 legs is better than 4
really? 6 gets you dual tripod gaits, which is simpler to always be stable assuming no climbing. What does 8 get you?
What does 8 get you?
Fear.
I feel like a humanoid shape is overall inferior to a monkey (monkeyoid?) shape because a monkey robot is just a humanoid plus a tail. And the tail can not only be used to grab things, so functioning like a fifth limb, but also be used for balance. You could even put visual sensors on the tail so it functions like a third eye that is capable of 360 vision since the monkey-bot can just spin the tail.
Robot Goku
There’s better body plans for pretty much any specific task, but a lot of these companies are trying to make mass market robots for domestic chores. And a human body plan is the only one that everyone’s house is designed to work with.
(PS - Holy shit don’t buy in on the domestic chore robots, rule 1 of robotics is that any robot strong enough to do something useful is strong enough to maim you.)
Yeah this is my thought about it too. As someone that also knows nothing and anything, I don’t think the human body or the way we move is particularly efficient. So having robots that look and move like humans seems purely like a vanity thing.
i’d only argue that the customer service bit isn’t really just vanity since I feel like it’s perfectly valid to expect people to feel wary towards something that looks like a biblically accurate angel speaking to them, versus something like an andoid like Data (although making Data look human was probably a vanity thing since Starfleet was filled with aliens and he coulda looked more different without shocking anyone)
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
as a Voldo main, I could commit so many war crimes with this baby
robot carcinization
Bit idea: give cops exoskeletons, but program them to move like this
Hey! Stop right there!
lmao no
the robot playing basketball in the replies
god damn
humanoid robots make me so much giddier than llms ever did, I mean I don’t think they’ll ever be more than a toy for rich people and the military industrial complex but they’re super cool.
2049 horror movies gonna go hard
i’m tired of fearing new tech
we get closer to the ultimate robot body plan: the jumping spider
Irl Tachikoma
The worst part of the anime will also be the worst part of real life.
The fuchikoma design from the comic was a lil cuter imo
fuchikoma
Ooh I do like that. Also red
The kind of design that would make a cool desk toy to pose around lol
Peak robot design:
Looking through the original poster’s feed and he seems really dead set on giving this animated organic looking eyes and a movable face? Or at least like a human mask of some kind???
( Very niche rant about design principles that probably has nothing to do with the guy or subject he’s posting about because I only spent like 5min looking into this):
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Like, my guy, and all the other really hyperfixated super-anthro robot people, check this out:
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We got it already. Figured this out decades ago. Those little robot cat waiters they got at restaurants here and there just do that and it’s perfect.
Boggles me still how someone can be smart enough for an engineering degree and still not know how to transfer goal-based design into aesthetics. Robots look better by making them look good as robots, not by making them look good as people. Then they just look cheap and fake.
If they ever make a robo butler (or whatever) that becomes commercially successful it’s not going to have a human face, it’s just going to be a screen with ASCII animations or something similar.
It’s a robot. Stop wasting ting time fighting the grain and work with its strengths. Holy moly.
Perfect. Wonderful. Gorgeous. Relatable. Emotive. Clear. A+. What a little guy!
its from love death robots, but i think emoticon design was shown fairly convicingly in several sci fi properties (fucking wall-e including) as capable of showing emotions and not going into weird shit of 50 muscle groups to achieve uncanny valley effect slightly better.
Gotta love it when General Grevious does the crawly thing
