The UN Security Council adopted a resolution on Monday [17 November 2025] that endorses a peace plan for Gaza put forward by United States President Donald Trump and a temporary international force in the enclave following two years of war.
Resolution 2803 (2025) received 13 votes in favour, and none against, with permanent members China and Russia abstaining.
Get down to business, all of you! You will have capitalists beside you, including foreign capitalists, concessionaires and leaseholders. They will squeeze profits out of you amounting to hundreds per cent; they will enrich themselves, operating alongside of you. Let them. Meanwhile you will learn from them the business of running the economy, and only when you do that will you be able to build up a communist republic. Since we must necessarily learn quickly, any slackness in this respect is a serious crime. And we must undergo this training, this severe, stern and sometimes even cruel training, because we have no other way out.
You must remember that our Soviet land is impoverished after many years of trial and suffering, and has no socialist France or socialist England as neighbours which could help us with their highly developed technology and their highly developed industry. Bear that in mind! We must remember that at present all their highly developed technology and their highly developed industry belong to the capitalists, who are fighting us.
China has highly developed technology and industry. The conditions for why the NEP was considered necessary are not applicable under these circumstances.
So… What do you want exactly? Socialism in one country? The conditions for China are different to the USSR, when Stalin pivoted from the NEP he had 100% of the resources the country needed within their own borders.
What does China do when its access to international trade matches that of DPRK and Cuba because bourgeoisie no longer have an incentive to allow its access? Where do they get the raw materials they don’t have access to?
I understand the desire to switch to the socialist mode of production but there is a key problem with that. You need every single raw material or you need access to global markets to trade for the missing ones.
What does China do when its access to international trade matches that of DPRK and Cuba
This is quite the suspension of disbelief one has to employ to follow your argument. China will never have a lack of access to international trade markets to make it level with DPRK and.Cuba in that regard.
China has the access it is given because the bourgeoisie have incentive to give it in the form of capital investment in companies. If you remove that, they no longer have any incentive whatsoever to be friendly with it, their will no longer be a split in the bourgeoisie between the members who want friendly relations due to their capital growth and the members who want to retake it. Instead they will be united in wanting to overthrow it for the purposes of expanding capital market access.
The current arrangement is a direct result of the carrot dangling that China’s current arrangement provides. A carrot is dangled in front of the invested boug who then form the backbone of pro-china bourgeoisie that do not want to see destablisation of the region as they want their investments to grow. Remove that and all of them become supporters of destabilisation instead.
Once that occurs it will take time for them to uncouple from the dependencies that the current arrangement has created internationally. But they will uncouple, and then they will sanction, and then they will surround, destabilise and ultimately seek to destroy. You must understand that China’s current strength and international dependence upon it for manufacturing among other things is in fact caused by this policy, it created the circumstances that now exist. All of that dependence and the powerhouse of international manufacturing China has become would not exist without having done this.
If the international bourgeoisie wanted to or could decouple themselves from China, they would have done so many years ago.
Why? Why do you think they would do that when they’re making hundreds of billions from access to 1.6million proles worth of production? No. Absolutely not. They will not do such a thing while they have market access and capital growth. Only upon having that access taken away do the numbers on paper then shift for the people who are completely and totally driven by the hard numbers.
The question isn’t what could China have done following the cultural revolution but what it should be doing now.
Yes and the point I am generally making is that it is pre-emptive to switch to a socialist mode of production before securing the resources that you need to sustain that mode of production.
China IS doing that, with their current focus on new forms of energy they aim to eliminate their need to import oil, which they import 70% of their needs. They are doing this through solar mega projects and Thorium, which also eliminates their reliance on uranium imports.
Upon achieving this security, the material requirements for the socialist mode of production open up.
All of this is ahead of target for 2035, looking like it will be achieved by 2032.
You think sending troops or their navy to Venezuela, potentially contributing to the escalation to WWIII (as trump et all would see it as a challenge to face down not a deterrent to their invasion/strikes/whatever they have planned) would be good for Venezuela, international socialism or the world in general?
They’re already supplying arms, materiel and forgiving debts, to act as if they are doing nothing is silly, so is saying that the reason they aren’t doing more is because of their domestic economic policies
You think sending troops or their navy to Venezuela,
I don’t think the PRC can even do that. They would basically have to sail 3/4 across the world because there’s 0% chance the US vassal state Panama would allow them passage through the Panama Canal. The PLAN would have to sail across the Indian Ocean past the Cape of Good Hope to get to Venezuela. Sailing past Cape Hope makes no sense owning to the hostility of the weather and waters.
At the end of the day, the SU was a military superpower first and foremost while the PRC is an economic superpower. The US is getting owned on the economic front, so they’re pivoting to the military front where the US still has an edge over the PRC. The PRC will make allies through opportunities for economic development while the US will drop the military hammer to keep them in line. No one wants to do business if their investment is just going to be bombed to shit, after all. Expect countries that sign on to the BRI to be attacked by the US as punishment for signing on to the BRI. The time for a soft power approach is over especially since October 7 has destroyed every ounce of soft power credibility the US has but also exposed that soft power doesn’t mean a rat’s ass compared with hard power.
If the BRI is the modern Silk Road, the US is playing the part of marauders and pirates waylaying Silk Road traders and stealing their shit. To continue this analogy, the PRC needs to play the part of security escorting those trader through hostile roads. This means investing in their military. Right now, the PLAN has a grand total of three (3) aircraft carriers. Two needs to be kept close to the PRC due to Taiwan/the Philippines/Japan/ROK, so the PLAN can actually only use one (1) aircraft carrier for saber-rattling/interventionist/brinksmanship purposes. The USN has 11 carriers and even if you subtract 4 for the two coastlines, that’s still 7 carriers. It’s 7 carriers vs 1 carrier.
By far the biggest gap is the gap in the number of overseas military bases. It’s 800+ vs 3. Much of those 800+ military bases boils down to the US overthrowing leaders with a degree of independence and installing compradors and vassals who then rubberstamp US bases sprouting up in their country where US troops commit SA against the local women. The PRC thus far has marketed itself as a noninterventionist country, which means countries are not exactly falling over themselves to open up military bases for the PRC especially given the aforementioned experience of US troops SA and committing crime in general. Imagine if Venezuela and the PRC had a military alliance. That would mean military cooperation, which means a Chinese military base in Venezuela in practical terms. Chinese troops are not just going to just show up in some random Venezuelan port and sleep at random Venezuelan hotels. But would the people of Venezuela actually agree to this?
You think sending troops or their navy to Venezuela
Which they will never do. They could have built Venezuela’s productive capacity to actually refine the massive amounts of heavy crude oil, but they didn’t. Venezuela has been able to do NOTHING with their mineral resources for nearly a decade.
They’re already supplying arms, materiel and forgiving debts, to act as if they are doing nothing is silly,
Am I supposed to pat them on the back for this? They do business with everybody.
As circumstances stand I agree, but you didn’t answer my question as objective material reality stands right now do you think they should deploy the PLA and PLAN to Venezuela?
They’ve invested(with the profits from gained their hybrid market system) in Venezuela and its oil industry(most went to production rather than domestic refinement but not all), even while under US sanction
And have provided a critical economic lifeline outside of the US/NATO/IMF order, which while not as effective as kinetically opposing US imperialism, is still far better than doing nothing but wringing hands from an ideologically pure position
Am I supposed to pat them on the back for this? They do business with everybody.
No you’re supposed to recognize this is far more than almost any other country is doing in solidarity, and tell me what else you think they should be doing?
They could have vetoed the US “peace” plan at the security council.
They could have cut all business relations with the Zionist Entity.
Maybe they could have even twisted Putin’s arm and made him choose between Zionism and continued access to Chinese markets!
Who knows? Perhaps they could have even “ruined Christmas” for the western consumer economies by holding up exports and saying “The presents will stop until the genocide stops. If the people in Bethlehem and the rest of Palestine can’t celebrate Christmas in peace then no trinkets for you.”
There are lots of levers to pull when you are the world’s largest export economy!
But “national development” takes priority over proletarian internationalism. No wonder internationalism is left to ideology grounded in the likes of Islam when the world’s largest “socialist” state continues to show every time it matters that they will do realpolitik for the sake of their capital rather than accept potential economic challenges. Making Chinese middle class incomes continue to grow so they can afford to become car-brained is more important.
Lenin would not have been critical of the equivalent of that image in 1921 Russia, where the industry was heavily destroyed by the civil war and where there were no capabilities of planning the entire economy at once. The conditions in today’s China are very different, yet this “NEP” shows zero signs of being rolled back.
That’s part of the beautiful poetic irony of this image. Look at the mural behind the carboard cutout and flags. It’s celebrating the Chinese space program. That’s something that one could very easily interpet as celebrating the country’s advanced technology and industry.
“…the best is about to come”
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/11/1166391
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The man that created the NEP would not be that critical of that image.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1921/oct/17.htm
China has highly developed technology and industry. The conditions for why the NEP was considered necessary are not applicable under these circumstances.
So… What do you want exactly? Socialism in one country? The conditions for China are different to the USSR, when Stalin pivoted from the NEP he had 100% of the resources the country needed within their own borders.
What does China do when its access to international trade matches that of DPRK and Cuba because bourgeoisie no longer have an incentive to allow its access? Where do they get the raw materials they don’t have access to?
I understand the desire to switch to the socialist mode of production but there is a key problem with that. You need every single raw material or you need access to global markets to trade for the missing ones.
China is too important to global capitalism and too embedded in South-South trade to actually cut them off like Cuba/DPRK.
This is quite the suspension of disbelief one has to employ to follow your argument. China will never have a lack of access to international trade markets to make it level with DPRK and.Cuba in that regard.
China has the access it is given because the bourgeoisie have incentive to give it in the form of capital investment in companies. If you remove that, they no longer have any incentive whatsoever to be friendly with it, their will no longer be a split in the bourgeoisie between the members who want friendly relations due to their capital growth and the members who want to retake it. Instead they will be united in wanting to overthrow it for the purposes of expanding capital market access.
The current arrangement is a direct result of the carrot dangling that China’s current arrangement provides. A carrot is dangled in front of the invested boug who then form the backbone of pro-china bourgeoisie that do not want to see destablisation of the region as they want their investments to grow. Remove that and all of them become supporters of destabilisation instead.
Once that occurs it will take time for them to uncouple from the dependencies that the current arrangement has created internationally. But they will uncouple, and then they will sanction, and then they will surround, destabilise and ultimately seek to destroy. You must understand that China’s current strength and international dependence upon it for manufacturing among other things is in fact caused by this policy, it created the circumstances that now exist. All of that dependence and the powerhouse of international manufacturing China has become would not exist without having done this.
If the international bourgeoisie wanted to or could decouple themselves from China, they would have done so many years ago.
The question isn’t what could China have done following the cultural revolution but what it should be doing now.
Why? Why do you think they would do that when they’re making hundreds of billions from access to 1.6million proles worth of production? No. Absolutely not. They will not do such a thing while they have market access and capital growth. Only upon having that access taken away do the numbers on paper then shift for the people who are completely and totally driven by the hard numbers.
Yes and the point I am generally making is that it is pre-emptive to switch to a socialist mode of production before securing the resources that you need to sustain that mode of production.
China IS doing that, with their current focus on new forms of energy they aim to eliminate their need to import oil, which they import 70% of their needs. They are doing this through solar mega projects and Thorium, which also eliminates their reliance on uranium imports.
Upon achieving this security, the material requirements for the socialist mode of production open up.
All of this is ahead of target for 2035, looking like it will be achieved by 2032.
In some areas sure, but there are still vast areas of underdevelopment
“Sir, Venezuela is about to be taken over”
“Just one more cycle of development, bro. I promise, bro”
What do you want from them?
You think sending troops or their navy to Venezuela, potentially contributing to the escalation to WWIII (as trump et all would see it as a challenge to face down not a deterrent to their invasion/strikes/whatever they have planned) would be good for Venezuela, international socialism or the world in general?
They’re already supplying arms, materiel and forgiving debts, to act as if they are doing nothing is silly, so is saying that the reason they aren’t doing more is because of their domestic economic policies
I don’t think the PRC can even do that. They would basically have to sail 3/4 across the world because there’s 0% chance the US vassal state Panama would allow them passage through the Panama Canal. The PLAN would have to sail across the Indian Ocean past the Cape of Good Hope to get to Venezuela. Sailing past Cape Hope makes no sense owning to the hostility of the weather and waters.
At the end of the day, the SU was a military superpower first and foremost while the PRC is an economic superpower. The US is getting owned on the economic front, so they’re pivoting to the military front where the US still has an edge over the PRC. The PRC will make allies through opportunities for economic development while the US will drop the military hammer to keep them in line. No one wants to do business if their investment is just going to be bombed to shit, after all. Expect countries that sign on to the BRI to be attacked by the US as punishment for signing on to the BRI. The time for a soft power approach is over especially since October 7 has destroyed every ounce of soft power credibility the US has but also exposed that soft power doesn’t mean a rat’s ass compared with hard power.
If the BRI is the modern Silk Road, the US is playing the part of marauders and pirates waylaying Silk Road traders and stealing their shit. To continue this analogy, the PRC needs to play the part of security escorting those trader through hostile roads. This means investing in their military. Right now, the PLAN has a grand total of three (3) aircraft carriers. Two needs to be kept close to the PRC due to Taiwan/the Philippines/Japan/ROK, so the PLAN can actually only use one (1) aircraft carrier for saber-rattling/interventionist/brinksmanship purposes. The USN has 11 carriers and even if you subtract 4 for the two coastlines, that’s still 7 carriers. It’s 7 carriers vs 1 carrier.
By far the biggest gap is the gap in the number of overseas military bases. It’s 800+ vs 3. Much of those 800+ military bases boils down to the US overthrowing leaders with a degree of independence and installing compradors and vassals who then rubberstamp US bases sprouting up in their country where US troops commit SA against the local women. The PRC thus far has marketed itself as a noninterventionist country, which means countries are not exactly falling over themselves to open up military bases for the PRC especially given the aforementioned experience of US troops SA and committing crime in general. Imagine if Venezuela and the PRC had a military alliance. That would mean military cooperation, which means a Chinese military base in Venezuela in practical terms. Chinese troops are not just going to just show up in some random Venezuelan port and sleep at random Venezuelan hotels. But would the people of Venezuela actually agree to this?
Exactly my point is even if they could, should they? would it materially benefit Venezuela and its people?
Oh, there’s jack shit China can do now aside from
Which they will never do. They could have built Venezuela’s productive capacity to actually refine the massive amounts of heavy crude oil, but they didn’t. Venezuela has been able to do NOTHING with their mineral resources for nearly a decade.
Am I supposed to pat them on the back for this? They do business with everybody.
As circumstances stand I agree, but you didn’t answer my question as objective material reality stands right now do you think they should deploy the PLA and PLAN to Venezuela?
They’ve invested(with the profits from gained their hybrid market system) in Venezuela and its oil industry(most went to production rather than domestic refinement but not all), even while under US sanction
And have provided a critical economic lifeline outside of the US/NATO/IMF order, which while not as effective as kinetically opposing US imperialism, is still far better than doing nothing but wringing hands from an ideologically pure position
No you’re supposed to recognize this is far more than almost any other country is doing in solidarity, and tell me what else you think they should be doing?
They could have vetoed the US “peace” plan at the security council.
They could have cut all business relations with the Zionist Entity.
Maybe they could have even twisted Putin’s arm and made him choose between Zionism and continued access to Chinese markets!
Who knows? Perhaps they could have even “ruined Christmas” for the western consumer economies by holding up exports and saying “The presents will stop until the genocide stops. If the people in Bethlehem and the rest of Palestine can’t celebrate Christmas in peace then no trinkets for you.”
There are lots of levers to pull when you are the world’s largest export economy!
But “national development” takes priority over proletarian internationalism. No wonder internationalism is left to ideology grounded in the likes of Islam when the world’s largest “socialist” state continues to show every time it matters that they will do realpolitik for the sake of their capital rather than accept potential economic challenges. Making Chinese middle class incomes continue to grow so they can afford to become car-brained is more important.
Developing China to become a real military threat to US geopolitical dominance, and not fall into the trap the USSR did is more important
Wining the war is more important than winning every battle
Lenin would not have been critical of the equivalent of that image in 1921 Russia, where the industry was heavily destroyed by the civil war and where there were no capabilities of planning the entire economy at once. The conditions in today’s China are very different, yet this “NEP” shows zero signs of being rolled back.
That’s part of the beautiful poetic irony of this image. Look at the mural behind the carboard cutout and flags. It’s celebrating the Chinese space program. That’s something that one could very easily interpet as celebrating the country’s advanced technology and industry.
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So they could upkeep their Westphalian system and keep profiteering?
A quid pro quo arrangement with other sections of international capital.
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