OP is wearing rose colored glasses, yes 10 was better but 10 was a turd in a blanket but you could do workarounds to keep that turd covered, 11 just took the blanket away and exposed the turd … . all the time.
Like Trump accelerating the transition to renewables and e vehicles across the world with his bumbling incompetence, MS is hastening the transition to Linux from theres, i was there from MS DOS days until early 10.
They really just need to use the Linux Kernel and do their own “Windows” skin on top, like Tuxedo etal
i gave up and have been on Linux Mint then LMDE for 4 years now, fucking hell, all i want to do is click the icon on the toolbar and use the app i selected. My gf uses 11 on her laptop.
The only thing i wish is that i could alias win-style drive letters (complete with colon)
Muscle memory is a biiiitch
I think it’s an inevitability that Microsoft contributes to Wine and switches to maintaining a Debian distro. They know they don’t have enough skilled developers to continue improving windows.
Linux users:
Its okay just plop some snow over the entrance they’ll tire themselves out
Use Windows 11 at work. Was using 10 at home. Seeing what my future looked like if I went to 10, I installed CachyOS instead. After 4 months of CachyOS, I’m not going back to Windows even if you pay me.
Windows 10 was never good, it just looks good compared to the radioactive slag heap that is Windows 11.
Hard disagree. Even though it’s initial outing was not the smoothest Windows 10 eventually got there and they made many improvements on Windows 7. So much so that it ran quite well for many many years which is why it was so widely adopted.
Quite frankly it’s my belief that the reason they force implemented Windows 11 was because Windows 10 was running so fucking well that they were seeing zero growth in their OS sales cause no one was needing to upgrade anymore. I myself had Windows 10 running on a machine that was over 15 years old. And it ran quite well.
tbh the only problem with Windows 10 for me was the telemetry/Forced Edge,which could’ve been disabled via scripts,as well as lower responsiveness(maybe placebo effect?). but Windows 11, literally some parts of the Operating System use Chromium. Please keep Chromium/Electron/CEF On Desktop apps, i hope other oses wont try to copy this.
Leave windows, embrace linux
not everyone know how to sudo su -
Moving to the open fields was a so much smoother experience than downgrading the windows.
And then: extend and extinguish! /s
Windows 2000 was the absolute best windows hands down.
But now it’s cachyos for me going forward. Never again will I install windows.
XP was beast they had to give away free upgrades to get people off it
I’ve used it recently. The ui is still snappier on the original machine than w11 today on a new one.
I’d be interested knowing why it got so bad. Is it for lack of time or focus on optimization? Is there a reason lazy loading isn’t used? Why is the tooling so convoluted, by choice or as a victim of ever growing complexity?
Amen. I’ve hated every windows OS after Windows 2000.
This is a frustration of mine with software. We make all these gains with hardware just to occupy the new capacity with cruft. I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.
Try Linux.
I switched when the windows context menu had to ask washington for permission to open. Some days it took 10-20 seconds. Repeatedly.
Well, it was one of the reasons, now it’s all snappy and predictable on my 6 gen intel mint linux.
I have, but unfortunately have to run Windows.
Sounds like a work computer. Doesn’t really count.
It is kinda both
My work phone and work computer are both company-owned, so I don’t generally count them. But I suppose not every company is like that.
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Yeah, it is a case with proprietary shit thats only available on microslop. Its an endless cycle where we are being forced to consume slop on top of slop. This lock-in is strategic so that users of specialised software have no other choice.
What are the odds it’s employer mandated spyware to make sure they aren’t automating their mundane tasks. Or finishing their work in the first 2 hours of the morning and running errands/ chores the rest of the day.
This is actually quite possible. There where cases where this occurred. I would say that this is more so true within the age of AI. Work smart not hard is essentially an oxymoron in some of these companies, as exploitation is what they crave.
They need the remaining 30% of their staff to carry the whole load. AI intent there to make work easier, it’s supposed to make fewer workers more productive (profitable for investors).
I just want the same interface from Y2K that runs so fucking fast my eyes can’t keep up with my fingers.
This is literally what Linux is always like and it never slows down even after decades. It boots and shuts down in about 3 seconds each. Join us; I spent a lot of time typing a foolproof guide recently. Let me see it actually get used lol!
I just played a game on Steam earlier tonight with friends; it launched WINE under the hood so invisibly that I couldn’t believe I wasn’t playing it on Windows. Nearly everything is cross-compatible these years with WINE, Bottles, Proton, Lutron, etc. There is basically no fear. If anything, the software typically performs even better.
I did not use your guide as I do not need it, but if I did need it, it would be exactly the kind of thing I would be looking for.
No adobe so no photoshop, no 3dStudio, no MSVC.
So I have one “windows box” for that.
The added bonus is it’s such a fresh experience to go back to linux every time 😁.
There are worthy alternatives to photoshop and 3dstudio max. Even if you /really/ need it, they can be run in wine or a vm.
Well not really, I’m “relearning” Krita but there is still some stuff lacking, making it a drudgery to use (fine software though!).
And there is no real replacement for 3dstudio and it won’t run in wine/vm.
I’m sure I’m probably wrong, but what about Blender?
Blender is fantastic software and a good place to start learning non-parametric modeling, but if you’re already used to 3DSMax it’s a massive learning curve because of how different the interface is. Like you have to unlearn stuff.
It’s worth the effort IMO but not everyone has the discipline to do it.
Well on the dim side, AI companies are buying up all of the new hardware. So we either get software that is somewhat efficient or we eventually move to “computers” that are just streaming sticks we use to access a Microsoft® Copilot® 365® Windows® 12® Azure® Cloud Desktop Experience Subscription Service computer.
Bring back timeshare computers!! /s
But that’s their wet dream btw.
That’s not a wet dream, that’s exactly what tech corpos are trying to do. Own nothing, rent timeshare.
This made me physically ill.
Software is like a gas: it expands to fill its container.
Happening with games too… I’m tired of developers just lowering the resolution and turning FSR on by default instead of even trying to optimize
I dont miss windows at all.
Of course opening the context menu takes its time. It’s gotta load a whole Electron framework first.
you just need a registry cleaner for that, dump out all the non-stock entries out of the list.
It should cache those until your file extensions get a reg edit, there is no need to build the context menu fresh every time
Ohh no, it’s not that it’s building the menu.
Each one of those extra lines is a hook to a dll.
rightclick potato.jpg
imagemagic: what options should i give for potato.jpg loads image enough of imagemagic to tell antivirus: what options should i give potato.jpg loads enough of antivirus to tell
Now if your apps are small or the context menu for them is will done, it’s hardly a blip But if you installed 27 different apps that want to be in the context menu and they’re all 100mb… that takes some time.
Yeah so cache it so it doesn’t take time to show you the options. Once you click it can go do bullshit loading. We have a software that used to load and cache the dialogs at first boot and it was fast to use, now it builds the dialog at runtime and is slow to display the options. It sucks.
Penguin noises intensifies
Full of fish?
Not entirely.
Then let’s fish.
Win10 is when telemetry was implemented for the first time. You’d better be off with win8.1 with some custom start menu adjustments or straight back to a heaven of Win7.
Or, inhales deeply, just install Linux and do not bother with MS crap cause Linux just works and there is some sort of a distro for pretty much anyone’s taste and preferences that will serve them as good or even better than win10/11/8.1/7.
The telemetry all got backported as far as seven and made a mandatory dependency of some security updates, so within a few weeks of 10’s launch, you either had telemetry or a machine that wasn’t safe to connect to the Internet.
I miss Windows XP. Take me back to the rolling green hills.
Linux HDR support is so bad that it makes the entire OS not worth using.
I was using Debian for 4 years but unfortunately I had to stop using it once I stopped being poor because it just cannot run an OLED as its supposed to.
HDR is only supported on AMD cards and has abysmal software integration, even on supported content… Comparatively, it just works on W11, even on titles that don’t support it because of AutoHDR.
I hope it can be resolved soon, but as of rn unfortunately its not there yet.
Linux HDR support is so bad that it makes the entire OS not worth using.
Really weird hill to die on. HDR is nice, but it’s not that nice.
The problem lies in the fact that Linux could easily integrate HDR for everything, but NVIDIA. HDMI and MS are gatekeeping these features.
HDR in Wayland using KDE Plasma 6.6 and GNOME 50 is supported on NVIDIA-open-595.58.03 and later.
A lot of specific applications still suck, including Firefox, but HDR is supported on AMD and NVIDIA.
I was using Debian
Say no more, fam, I see your problem. Debian is what you run for stability. If you want features, you need a more appropriate distro.
But with Win8 you don’t get and Updates anymore. With Win10 there’s still the LTSC (IoT) version.
Lame. Should have gone back to Windows 7.
Broke: Installing Linux
Woke: Installing an older version of Windows
Bespoke: Installing the Apple II OS
BeOs for the win!
If you like BeOS, try Haiku! https://www.haiku-os.org/
Windows 7 was the peak.
This is not ‘things were better when you were fifteen.’ I started on Apple fucking II. I remember Windows 95 being new and fancy, and even that 90 MHz 16 MB ass DOS extension of an operating system had better UI and better UX than Windows 10 or 11. 98 was an improvement, NT was a tradeoff, ME was a mistake, XP was a lurching step forward, service packs can burn in hell, Vista doubly so. Windows 7 was the last time the good-bad-good-bad cycle actually worked out. 8 was bad, trying to be a touchscreen OS, and then 8.1 was a band-aid instead of a real fix, and everything since WIndows 10 has been a deliberate disaster. ‘We’re gonna screenshot your desktop every few seconds because–’ Die.
This is not ‘things were better when you were fifteen.’
It absolutely is rose-colored glasses, whether you realize it or not. This entire thread is.
I think people were just relieved to have a viable upgrade path from XP that wasn’t Vista.
I would be using Windows 7 right now if internet security wasn’t a thing. I only gave it up in late 2020. There’s still features in Linux Mint that don’t work the way I want, because I want them to work like they do in Windows 7.
Windows 2000 was peak. XP and 7 were warmed up leftovers in comparison
The whole NT line is crap.
Consumer Windows was just a GUI on top of DOS. NT-based Windows is objectively better than DOS-based Windows. Though both are still equivalent to a pair of brain cells fighting for third place.
NT cleaned up the 2 routes windows was taking and recombined them. If they hadn’t then the consumer windows would have been a lot worse now than it already is. Dave’s Garage/Dave’s Attic, the guy who wrote task manager, explained how the consumer windows was worse than a hot mess until they were brought back into the corporate branch.
Windows ME is the ultimate argument that 9x was unsalvageable.
tbh XP or 2K was much better. 7 got rid of accelerated classic theme, so the whole experience was laggy when not using Aero. accelerated aero desktops are cool but there’s a noticeable delay.
I feel like Windows 2000 was peak. Best UI, no spyware, fast… Yeah, it was great
Windows 3.11 or bust.
You can pry my Workgroups from my cold, dead, hands.
Going back to Windows 10 feels like removing ankle weights you forgot you were wearing.
